Donald Trump's war on Megyn Kelly

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It was set up specifically for that reason.Moderators already knew DT would be the only one to raise his hand.They resented him being there and by golly they were not making any bones about it! A total wast of debate time.

So it’s a waste of debate time because they asked questions that some people didn’t want to think about? That’s what it seems like.

I’m starting to wonder how many debates most of the complainers have actually watched over the years. I’ve watched a heck of a lot of them. The questions asked of the candidates weren’t unusual in the slightest. Well except I don’t think either party has had such a vocal and unrepentant candidate so well known for his sexist statements before.

Candidates in both parties are regularly asked hard questions on their past statements and actions. And the complaints about who would and wouldn’t be included in the debate, is commonly made by both parties. As are questions that call out candidates negative comments about other party members that are running.

Part of the problem for some people seems to also be that they expected special treatment for Trump in this debate, as if he’s special. Not sure if it’s that they didn’t actually want the moderators to their jobs but instead handle the Republican candidates with kid gloves. If you’ve been watching in past years though, that isn’t what happens. If they did actually do that, then it really would have been a waste of time.

 

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Reagan ran 2 times before he got the nomination. For Walker, Cruz, Rubio, they all need to remember this, all of the candidates. People spoke very negatively of Reagan in some of those early campaigns as well.

 

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I don’t support Donal Trump.However,while the questions on it’s face may have been a valid one,it was rhetorical ,pretty sure mods knew the answer.That alone wouldn’t have been a big deal but then to take an out of context comment by Trump and focus on that,wasting time was clearly meant to diminish him.Fox really showed it’s hand with that.

The moderator may very well no answer but it is probable a significant number of those watching the debate. Trumps stance is so breathtakingly petty it would’ve been malpractice for the moderators not to ask a question about it.

 

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So it’s a waste of debate time because they asked questions that some people didn’t want to think about? That’s what it seems like.

I’m starting to wonder how many debates most of the complainers have actually watched over the years. I’ve watched a heck of a lot of them. The questions asked of the candidates weren’t unusual in the slightest. Well except I don’t think either party has had such a vocal and unrepentant candidate so well known for his sexist statements before.

Candidates in both parties are regularly asked hard questions on their past statements and actions. And the complaints about who would and wouldn’t be included in the debate, is commonly made by both parties. As are questions that call out candidates negative comments about other party members that are running.

Part of the problem for some people seems to also be that they expected special treatment for Trump in this debate, as if he’s special. Not sure if it’s that they didn’t actually want the moderators to their jobs but instead handle the Republican candidates with kid gloves. If you’ve been watching in past years though, that isn’t what happens. If they did actually do that, then it really would have been a waste of time.

But that was a bit of a personal question. I don’t hear those kinds of questions earlier. Take one of the hard questions Rand Paul was asked, it was about when he said members of his party helped create ISIS, whatever the exact words were. This was more about politics. In fact, I’d say about all of those questions, to Walker, etc. were political in nature, not the personal one.

But it’s Trump’s remarks on Friday that set him back, but at the debate, saying they are kidding around and things, that part sounded believable.

 

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They didn’t do it at the earlier debate because none of those participants have been whining to the press if they were going to run as a third-party if they didn’t think they were shown the proper amount of respect by the Republican national committee and the other candidates . There are probably a lot of people who did not know that Trump had already taken a “nominate me or I’m going to do my best to scuttle the Republican candidate attitude” . This is the kind of information that needs to come out of debates .

One thing the aftermath the of debate has proven is it Donald Trump is totally unqualified to be president of United States . And most people knew that before the debate .

Exactly.

Rubio, Bush, heck even Carson aren’t contemplating a third party run. None of them are attempting to blackmail the Republican party or her voters. He created the grounds for the question and then his supporters whine that’s unfair to ask. Exactly the same with his sexist comments.

If you don’t want to be asked about sexist comments about women, don’t make them. And if you don’t want your candidate to be asked about them, don’t support a guy that makes them in the first place.

 

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I certainly didn’t get the way some people read or heard his remark. Here, I think he’s right.

 

[estesbob]

Thank you, you acknowledge that asking that question would not have happened if Trump had not been there, that in itself shows he was treated differently.

But that is your interpretation, the establishment did not treat him fairly early, his campaign was not respected. McCain called Trump’s supporters “crazies”, people largely from his own state of Arizona. Trump merely asserted he wanted a fair shake, leading in the polls I believe by double digits. If the GOP squeezed him out despite being the front runner, I think he had a legitimate gripe.

The question would notnot need to be asked if there had not been a candidate there who already said he would consider running as a third party if he wasn’t treated with the proper amount ofii respect. Similarly Kasik wouldn’t have been asked about his support of the expansion of Medicaid if he had supported the expansion of Medicaid . Nor l would Bush have been asked about his support of core education standards if he had in fact supported core education standards . Every candidate on that stage got asked tough questions about their stands-only Trump and his supporters or whining about how unfair it is.

 

[Jeanne_S]

So it’s a waste of debate time because they asked questions that some people didn’t want to think about? That’s what it seems like.

I’m starting to wonder how many debates most of the complainers have actually watched over the years. I’ve watched a heck of a lot of them. The questions asked of the candidates weren’t unusual in the slightest. Well except I don’t think either party has had such a vocal and unrepentant candidate so well known for his sexist statements before.

Candidates in both parties are regularly asked hard questions on their past statements and actions. And the complaints about who would and wouldn’t be included in the debate, is commonly made by both parties. As are questions that call out candidates negative comments about other party members that are running.

Part of the problem for some people seems to also be that they expected special treatment for Trump in this debate, as if he’s special. Not sure if it’s that they didn’t actually want the moderators to their jobs but instead handle the Republican candidates with kid gloves. If you’ve been watching in past years though, that isn’t what happens. If they did actually do that, then it really would have been a waste of time.

Maybe I am not articulating my thoughts on this clearly enough.I don’t have to defend DT,he is pretty capable of speaking for himself,albeit not with a lot of finesse for sure.My issue with MK approach is that ,one she deliberately took out of context a comment DT made on his Apprentice show, framing the comment as demeaning and disrespectful to a female contestant.I actually heard the entire sound bite of this program.His comment was not at all what Megan Kelly alluded to it being.That in and of itself was pretty shoddy on her part. So yeah,it was a waste of debate time,solely for the purpose of discrediting DT appearance at the debates.Like him or not,it is pretty obvious that he wasn’t welcomed there.In the end,let the voters decide.

 

[estesbob]

I certainly didn’t get the way some people read or heard his remark. Here, I think he’s right.

Given his disdain for women who disagree with him and is referring to Megyn Kelly as a Bimbo it is no stretch to believe he was implying she had been having her period
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The question would notnot need to be asked if there had not been a candidate there who already said he would consider running as a third party if he wasn’t treated with the proper amount ofii respect. Similarly Kasik wouldn’t have been asked about his support of the expansion of Medicaid if he had supported the expansion of Medicaid . Nor l would Bush have been asked about his support of core education standards if he had in fact supported core education standards . Every candidate on that stage got asked tough questions about their stands-only Trump and his supporters or whining about how unfair it is.

It seems some people are marginalizing others by accusing them of “whining”, this is a discussion forum after all and that could be an invective no less, to quash conversation.

Secondly, it was only brought up about the show of hands in setting the tone. It was legitimate but it did seem to his position was mis-characterized in saying he’d scuttle the GOP race.

 

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Given his disdain for women who disagree with him and is referring to Megyn Kelly as a Bimbo it is no stretch to believe he was implying she had been having her period
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If one has never called a driver a name while driving or in any other situation, I commend them. It is a common human error to name-call. I know I have.

I fully acknowledge he has overreacted since the debate but I think his answer at the debate was good enough to his first question.

 

[Cider]

It seems some people are marginalizing others by accusing them of “whining”, this is a discussion forum after all and that could be an invective no less, to quash conversation.

Secondly, it was only brought up about the show of hands in setting the tone. It was legitimate but it did seem to his position was mis-characterized in saying he’d scuttle the GOP race.

What else do you call it when people are crying that the questions were too hard or “unfair” for the candidate they support?

 

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What else do you call it when people are crying that the questions were too hard or “unfair” for the candidate they support?

I’d call it discussion, those words you are using can be used to describe any side in an argument.

 

[SofiaBelgrade]

I guess I’m confused about how calling people animals, pigs, dogs, bimbos, etc is okay in any context coming from someone wanting a leadership position. While I can understand not wanting to be a slave to political correctness, there is also a line that exists between not speaking the truth, and having no boundaries/filter. If I were naming qualities I’d want in a president, I think I’d be happier not having someone in office that has a temper and seems to resort to name calling when he doesn’t get his way.

As far as the comments, it was only reading through this thread that I realized he attempted to clarify his intent in meaning. The original statement, I believe was “you could see the blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever” and the tone in his voice made it pretty obvious that he was referring to that time of the month. I could be a deviant, I suppose, but I’ve certainly heard that joke many times in my life.

Trump came out with a statement today, explaining that by “wherever” he meant nose (as if this was obvious). I guess I’m not following what exactly that means… blood coming out of her eyes and nose? Perhaps someone can explain that to me because I think it’s gone over my head, haha.

I am partly inclined to believe him, even though it doesn’t make sense to me, if only because he seems to never show remorse or apology for other statements - and if he had meant the other “somewhere”, I can only imagine he’d stand by this statement, and not care about the consequences.

 

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Fox News’ moderators, not the candidates, apparently got the orders from “big-time Republican donors” to take out Donald Trump during Thursday night’s GOP debate, talk show host Rush Limbaugh claims.

“We all made a mistake,” Limbaugh said on his radio show on Friday. “We assumed that the orders went out to the candidates. But the candidates did not make one move toward taking Donald Trump out. The broadcast network did; the candidates didn’t.”

On the day of the debate, Limbaugh talked on his show about an article on the DC Whispers website that claimed donors had contacted the candidates and put out an order to make Trump look bad during the debate.

It was apparent that Fox News and its moderators got the order instead, Limbaugh said.
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“I mean, let’s review,” said Limbaugh. “The first question from Megyn Kelly to Trump was, ‘You’ve called women fat slobs, pigs, whatever,’ and he said, ‘No, just Rosie O’Donnell.’”

The audience began laughing, and Kelly told Trump, “No, its more than that,” and then asked him if such statements belong in the White House, Limbaugh continued.

“Trump was clearly caught entirely off guard by it, and even today he said, 'I’m not… I don’t know when I’ve ever said this stuff,’” said Limbaugh.

Limbaugh said it’s doubtful Trump writes all the tweets that turn up in his Twitter account, but he does know that the frontrunner does not use a cell phone or email.

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Not sure if Trump even knows when he said some of these things, he was caught off guard by it.

 

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Carly Fiorina on Donald Trump: 'Women understood that comment’

(CNN)Carly Fiorina said Donald Trump’s comments about Megyn Kelly “were completely inappropriate and offensive” and were clearly meant to imply the Fox News host’s tough questions were a result of menstruation.

“Women understood that comment. And yes, it is offensive,” Fiorina, the former Hewlett-Packard executive, said in an interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper aired Sunday on “State of the Union.”

Trump is under fire for saying Friday night that Kelly, who pressed him on his previous attacks on women during Thursday night’s GOP presidential debate, had “blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her – wherever.”

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I admit, a woman would “get” the comment better than me. It would seem very crude.

That’s the problem with Trump, what is the next offensive thing he is going to say??

First, it was possibly not saying the border problem in the best way, okay, that was somewhat mild, then the McCain comment and now, this latest.

Having twice as much support as the next candidate though, he should have appreciated his position. He may be able to salvage the campaign, he still says a lot of things on target definitely.

 

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Now, I saw a source, that said back decades ago, saying something like “He/She was so mad, he/she was bleeding from their eyes and nose” was not an uncommon expression. Could be regional too.

 

[Joie_de_Vivre]

When did he say that? I thought it was someone else’s tweet. Anyway, what do you think of a moderator who has said: " I do need a little attention. I like to be adored."

I think she is honest, I am pretty sure a bunch of other people on TV and movies feel like they do need a little attention and thry like to be adored, including the men.

I don’t know. I don’t have a dog in the race.

I think many of Fox’s commentators are goofy. I don’t even know who this lady is.

I might even be wrong about the Bimbo name calling- I picked that up second hand.

I find that whole thing rather funny frankly.

He retweeted it meaning he endorses the statement

I watched onReilly last night but it was hosted by Chris Wallace. He had Brett Baier on as a guest, and they said all of the moderators worked on the questions and according to them they stood by them. Why the question about women to Trump? Seems like there could have been more pointed questions about the economy.

Also he had Huckabee on raking him over the support of his pro life stance on abortion!

I was surprised that Chris Wallace would even host this show let alone attacking candidates because of their view on abortion, a stance that O’Reilly at least is against.

All in all disappointed with Fox. Seems they have an agenda, and sure won’t be watching Megyn again because she was not fair. I expected more of her, but she acted more like a prosecuting attorney which I think she was at one time.

Most of the the candidates got questions that made them look bad, Trump was the only one that doubled down and did it by attacking the moderator followed by tripling down after the debate.

Huckabee would get raked over the coals in a general election for that opinion, heck, half his party disagrees with him.

No. Not at all. Actually I admire the guts!
I’m just saying Kelly shouldn’t be seen as a victim, but is merely experiencing the cost of doing businwss…play with the big dogs or stay on the porch

Kelly is experiencing the cost of doing business as a woman which is being attacked for being a woman.

Do you think one can have a view against all abortion but still, sponsor a bill that compromises because it would lower abortions all the same?

It’s back to the “half a loaf is better than nothing” argument.

I think he should has pointed out that less than 5% of abortions are because of “rape, incest or life of the other” and that reducing abortions by 95% is a massive improvement over reducing it by none at all.

My brother use to tell me that blonde was not just a hair color. I would extend that to bimbo. me. Kelley is a sellout to whatever Fox News wants. She does not like Rosie, nor will she stick up for Rosie. She brought up these statements because Fox is against Trump.

Why would she like someone who she is mostly opposite to? You don’t have to like someone to be concerned by comments made about them, for example I strongly dislike Hillary Clinton , but if Donald Trump called her a stupid c*** I would be appalled.

It was set up specifically for that reason.Moderators already knew DT would be the only one to raise his hand.They resented him being there and by golly they were not making any bones about it! A total wast of debate time.

Moderator: “Mr. Trump, are you so selfish that if you lose the primary election you’d run as a third party candidate and hand the election to Mrs. Clinton on a silver platter?”
Trump: “I am not selfish, I am the center of the god damn university and I would beat Hillary Clinton”
That is really how the dialogue felt to me.

I certainly didn’t get the way some people read or heard his remark. Here, I think he’s right.

Perhaps it is because I am a woman, but I certainly felt that that he was referring to menstruation because it is wholly within his character to say such a thing, especially when he triples down by calling her a bimbo.

 

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Perhaps it is because I am a woman, but I certainly felt that that he was referring to menstruation because it is wholly within his character to say such a thing, especially when he triples down by calling her a bimbo.

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At the least, he said similar about the other host.

It may be a regional expression, about when one’s blood pressure goes up; “He was so mad, he had blood coming out of his eyes and nose”.

 

[Cider]

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When I talked to the Trump campaign on Friday night, the campaign manager only wanted to focus on the “blood in her eyes” part. When I brought up the “wherever” bit, he kept going back to the “blood in her eyes” part.

So I asked for a clarification or apology and he said I needed to do it in writing.

I put it in writing with the full quote.

The campaign manager called back and said Mr. Trump meant “whatever,” not “wherever” because he was trying to get Don Lemon to move on in the CNN interview.

Today, on the Sunday show circuit, Donald Trump is denying he meant anything other than bleeding from Megyn Kelly’s nose or some such and that only a deviant would think otherwise.

I think it is unfortunate that Donald Trump’s campaign could not offer that clarification until eight hours after their initial attempt was that Trump had meant “whatever.”

Whatever.

At this point there is not a lot of difference between Planned Parenthood supporters who think the tapes were edited and Donald Trump supporters who think he did not say what he said on live television.

Eric Erickson