Yes, that’s a bunch of stupid trash. If the Catholic Church teaches that female orgasm is sinful, then I would officially say “wtf” right there with you. But in six years and tens of thousands of messages read, I’ve never heard of that before.
Sounds like you have made improvement over the past few months. So congratulations for cooperating with grace. Either you or someone else has been praying for you, for that is the only way anyone can improve.I left the church before, for many years and it was horrible, and I promised God I’m not gonna do it again. And I’m not, I’m not I’m not I’m not. Spiritually I’m in the right place but I’m missing so many of the basics… Over the past few months I started to finally feel good about my relationship with God, and that hasn’t changed, but I listen to others talk at my church and I read some threads here and apparently there’s just a lot of important things I’m missing that just aren’t important to me… Most problems people seem to have are with premarital sex/masturbation - don’t get me wrong, they can be unhealthy if abused, but if not abused I don’t think it’s really a sin. There’s a lot of things I don’t think are really sins, I don’t care what the bible says.
I don’t care what the Bible says… I can’t believe I just wrote that. I really do care, a lot, but it’s easy for me to dismiss it sometimes. I haven’t picked up a Bible in years, I’m too scared of the friggin thing. Which is bad because I help with a youth ministry class once a week, and I was put in that position because I said I wanted to become a priest. I definitely don’t practice what I preach.
Has anyone started out this way and kind of worked their way up to being a better Catholic? My heart’s in it, but I don’t think my brain is, and I’m starting to get nervous. It’s not easy for me to give someone else control of me, but I finally did, and now I just have no idea what He wants for me or where He’s trying to lead me. I’m trying to listen, but sometimes I hear nothing, so maybe it means I have to figure things out on my own, but I don’t trust myself. I need the training wheels to go back on.
If you type some key words into the search bar on this site, a few threads will come up with people debating this topic. Some say female orgasm is perfectly okay and is a part of sex, while others say it’s never okay because the way it’s achieved is not procreative, apparently not even if procreative acts follow. Growing up it was taught by word of mouth that only intercourse was allowed, anything else was a grave, mortal, terrible sin, yes, even if it ends with a procreative act. I just don’t agree with the conclusion that ‘the man must orgasm to keep the human race going but if a woman wants to enjoy sex she has 5 minutes during intercourse to do so, and if it doesn’t happen, all well, you missed your chance.’ To me that sounds ridiculous but I’ve met people who really think that and call it God’s Word.
But stuff like that could also have the ‘horoscope’ effect. My mom read one that said “you will have good luck today” and she interpreted that as meaning she would be getting the promotion at work she was up for. She didn’t get it… but she was so sure that’s what the horoscope was referring to when it said “luck”… My mom loves those stupid magazine horoscopes and made my dad read his, and it said he would be having “family troubles” and he immediately turned to me and said “what did you do” as if it mentioned me by name.
Even though I’ve been skeptical about a lot of things, I want to clarify that I’m not doubting God at all - I have doubts about myself, and am unsure my faith will remain strong throughout my life. I left the church once already because I lost faith in it, and I’m just afraid it will happen again… I don’t want to screw up that bad again, it’s getting harder and harder to prove to God that He can trust me and I don’t want to do anything stupid. But…I think I’ve had the right motivations for today, and** tomorrow **I’ll pray for tomorrow.
THANK YOU!!! Because there are people out there who want to scare/intimidate/manipulate people into doing/believing certain things, there’s a lot of stupid trash out there… but when people swear it’s in the Bible, now it looks like I called the Bible stupid trash. :banghead:
Thank you
Uhhhh somehow it does sound familiar. I haven’t been praying much lately because I realized I only do it to apologize for something stupid I did. I have a new approach to it now…God already knows I’m sorry, so there’s other things I could talk about now, something with substance, something that lets Him know I’m actually thinking of ways to change the situation instead of just apologizing for it.I needed that!Hang in their OP
you made a promise not to leave the church again - so lets stick with it!
I see that you have some opinions that don’t coincide with what the bible teaches - ex. sex and what not
but try your best, you can’t ask much more than try your best
- well we gotta remember that we are here to live in according to God’s rules and not our own
I will pray for you
O my Jesus
Forgive us our sins,
save us from the fires of Hell
lead all souls to Heaven
especially those most in need of thy mercy.
AMEN
This is lousy. You may want to question who the weak one is. Just because you read the bible doesn’t mean you understand it. Clearly, you need a lot of help in that area.
Just because a saint said something like that, it doesn’t make it ok, holy or right. They are humans who screw up just like the rest of us. And stop trying to cover your B.S. by calling yourself a “heavy sinner”. wake up see the light and at least give good genuine apology for what you said. This is guy is looking for help not trash.
This is exactly why people have problems with Catholics (organized religion)… comments like yours of judgement. There is only one judge and jury and that is our Lord. One of his children has reached out to our forum community for support, and your first response is to call him weak and dumb. I’m sorry, but I think we as Catholics and Christians really need to work on this. God gave us an opportunity to help this soul and potentially help them work their way back to the church and renew their faith. We need to repsond as God would.
We ALL begin here in one extent or another.I left the church before, for many years and it was horrible, and I promised God I’m not gonna do it again. And I’m not, I’m not I’m not I’m not. Spiritually I’m in the right place but I’m missing so many of the basics… Over the past few months I started to finally feel good about my relationship with God, and that hasn’t changed, but I listen to others talk at my church and I read some threads here and apparently there’s just a lot of important things I’m missing that just aren’t important to me… Most problems people seem to have are with premarital sex/masturbation - don’t get me wrong, they can be unhealthy if abused, but if not abused I don’t think it’s really a sin. There’s a lot of things I don’t think are really sins, I don’t care what the bible says.
I don’t care what the Bible says… I can’t believe I just wrote that. I really do care, a lot, but it’s easy for me to dismiss it sometimes. I haven’t picked up a Bible in years, I’m too scared of the friggin thing. Which is bad because I help with a youth ministry class once a week, and I was put in that position because I said I wanted to become a priest. I definitely don’t practice what I preach.
Has anyone started out this way and kind of worked their way up to being a better Catholic? My heart’s in it, but I don’t think my brain is, and I’m starting to get nervous. It’s not easy for me to give someone else control of me, but I finally did, and now I just have no idea what He wants for me or where He’s trying to lead me. I’m trying to listen, but sometimes I hear nothing, so maybe it means I have to figure things out on my own, but I don’t trust myself. I need the training wheels to go back on.
Just checking out other post from you, son. I hope this **** you posted isn’t your idea of what it means to be a “victim soul”. If it is, you are way off the mark.
Easier said than done…
Sometimes it takes all I have not to flick Jimminy friggin Cricket off my friggin shoulder. A big problem I have is that when you’re Catholic, everything is a sin. Some random &#^%&$ at a restaurant tonight stopped and randomly told me the devil was in me for drinking. I did the Christian thing and said thank you for your concern. And then had 3 more shots in his honor.
Love ( desiring the highest good for another) is not a sin…
This is why Cathocism gets such criticism. While other faith demoninations have become more lienient, the Catholic faith has not. In a world that has become increasingly secular, and self-serving it becomes more difficult for people to honor God’s will. At the end of the day however God’s commandments exist and they are black and white. There’s no gray area here - actions/choices are either right or they are wrong. They either please God or they offend God. I don’t know if the person who told you the devil was in you for drinking was Catholic, but drinking responsibly is not sinful. It’s only when our actions/choices harm ourselves or others that they become sinful.Sometimes it takes all I have not to flick Jimminy friggin Cricket off my friggin shoulder. A big problem I have is that when you’re Catholic, everything is a sin. Some random &#^%&$ at a restaurant tonight stopped and randomly told me the devil was in me for drinking. I did the Christian thing and said thank you for your concern. And then had 3 more shots in his honor.
I’m slowly getting over it. I know people say there is only one way to do right, but I can only do what I can do. I don’t have very many issues between me and God; it’s always between me and Catholicism. It takes a lot of discipline and it’s a lot of pressure. It might be arrogant, but I’m relatively happy with where I’m at, even if I’m nowhere near a perfect example of a Catholic.