Drag Queen Show At Highschool

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Had to rewrite this as was previously removed, so apologies to repeat but I wanted the overall point noted.

What this thread shows is that if people want to be outraged they will be.

In this case a light hearted show at a school assembly where one 15 year student wants to entertain his friends by dressing in drag and making them laugh.

Some on this forum have changed this into an adult drag act of the worst kind, in order to get themselves worked up.

There were also adults on this forum trying to persuade a child from that school to attempt to disrupt the event, this is really concerning.

You could easily take as much outrage from the comedy acts or dance acts, by doing the same in taking it to extremes - but no just the one act was singled out.

If someone is browsing these forums considering joining the Catholic Church it is people and opinions like this who deliberately take exception to things in an attempt to “prove how high and mighty they are” achieves nothing, apart from putting lots of people off the church.

Please for the sake of the church, be outraged ONLY when there is reason to be, don’t make us all look silly and out of touch by doing what you have done to the poor 15 year old guy who is performing at his school assembly today.

Remember this is child, if you have concerns about the path he is choosing, surely you would look to encourage him to join the church one day so the church can guide him away from the things you have concerns about, instead you make him feel vilified by the church making sure there is no way he will ever look to join an institution that treated him in this way.

Lets remember who the church is for, it’s not for perfect people it’s for the people who need help, who need guidance, who need the love of Jesus. When the first group are throwing stones at the latter group it stops the church doing what it is there for.

The church is about acceptance, about love and about guiding those who need it back to the the church.

I see no love, no acceptance and only attempts to vilify a young man on this forum by most people, this man who may need the guidance and love that Jesus would have shown him.

Please stop hurting the church in this way, imagine Jesus reading this thread.
Who would he go to, the people mocking this boy and putting photos of pantomime dames, or to the boy himself? I know what I think…

Let’s all do better as a community.
 
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No it wasn’t, you made a good point that I agree with. I’m in the UK myself. There was a small picture alongside the definition of your post, but it was a post that followed that was a picture chosen to mock which the poster should consider exactly what they are contributing to the dialogue here?
 
I think the root problem on this thread is this:
  1. Some people think this event (drag performance by a young man who is gay, presumably openly so) is going to be a light-hearted comedic performance, in the manner of a Pantomime Dame, or family skits at a holiday gathering.
  2. Other people think this event is going to be more akin to a full-out drag queen performance as is sometimes done now in these United States at school events and public library story hours for toddlers (such as post 38).
Only time (and the OP) will tell whose concerns were more valid:

Were the hobby moralists right to be concerned? Or was it much ado about nothing?
Was it more RuPaul or Pantomime Dame?
 
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We all had the same information to go on, that’s it’s a yearly event at the school. Children at the school put on comedy shows, this year there is a “school appropriate drag” act by a 15 year old boy.

The point is not a black and white who is going to be right. The point is that the outrage shown by some on the forum has been very non-catholic. Adults encouraging children attending the event up try to disrupt it, putting photos of pantomime dames to mock the boy who will be dressing up.

My argument is this. If something deserves outrage then 100% get outraged. If something doesn’t don’t, don’t guess and get yourself all worked up over potentially nothing.

Currently this doesn’t deserve outrage, currently there is a boy who may well need the church to support and guide him, not vilify him and push him away.

When the event goes ahead this may change, it may be awful. It may then require outrage, but only then.

In my opinion it’s far more likely that the result will be “the drag act was a bit funny, a little awkward but funny, but some of the jokes told by the comedy acts were too much”

So if the OP says that in his opinion (that of a 15 year old boy) it was a bit too much then it us not vindication for everyone that mocked, exaggerated and vilified the performing boy.

But yes I will be interested in the opinion of the OP. But I will also note that from the tone of his posts he is very against the performance so it is a bias view we are going to get.
 
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Newhills - Why have you changed the facts to allow you to be more outraged?

You have constantly referred to the child being encouraged or told/forced to do the performance, he is doing it as he wants to do it. No one is forcing him.

Either you have information with regards to the boy and the event that has not been shared on the forum, or you are being deliberately false to make it fit your narrative.

Which is it please?

Some quotes from you below -

People should be supporting a young kid who is saying that he is gay - not standing him in front of a room full of people wearing women’s clothes to be laughed at.

Yes, we agree. Children are being encouraged to put on a drag performance for other children. It is indeed unbelievable.

do we really need to encourage/allow drag performances just to further
 
FYI – I started a new thread to discuss a more pointed question:
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Are "drag shows" against Catholic teaching? Moral Theology
Are drag shows against Catholic teaching? Or are they harmless entertainment? Or are they akin to a minstrel show, only demeaning women instead of African-Americans? –Please don’t bother to post any popcorn emojis.– If not, why not? If so, why? Here’s a link that discusses a response from the Vatican about this. But perhaps it only applies in the context of a Catholic University that holds drag shows?
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What you have done there is deliberately mislead other forum members by showing half a quote, its your right to do so, but I wonder why you chose to do it?

Here is what I actually said -

“Surely correct advice would be to attend with an open mind, enjoy the comedy show. If there is anything alarming, maybe take the boy who performed a flyer for his local church or a printout of a few passages from the bible to read. To offer to answer any questions he may have about the church”

What is your point now, looking at the full context?

Also I’m only talking “advice” because of the advice given by others on here. I have been quite clear I have no issues with the event.
 
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GKMotley said:
How do you stand on Womanless Weddings?
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Golly, Womanless Weddings are new to me. As far as I can recall at this distance in time, my wedding was not womanless. Shakespeare went in for Womanless Drama, of course, so had Romeo and Juliet survived their mix-up with the poison …
 
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Yeah, but as wiki says, it was a thing, and, as it says, was popular regionally. One such region I lived and thrived in, and around 65 years ago, saw one such extravaganza. Put on at the local high school auditorium, by some local civic organization, for a charitable cause (PTA?), featuring many of my neighbors, but (thankfully) none of my family.

I survived the experience.
 
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I survived the experience.
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It sounds deeply odd.

I did appear on stage as a woman myself, during my schooldays. It was a production of Coriolanus and I was his mum. To make matters worse it was in modern dress and set in France (the conceit was some sort of parallel in the director’s mind between the play and the events of the Algiers putsch) so I had to look très chic (or at any rate less gormless than usual).
 
It’s comedy. It’s okay, watch the movie “Tootsie” or “Mrs. Doubtfire”. If you are uncomfortable by it, ask not to attend.
 
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