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sambos671
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I disagree. I think the DRE has an unhealthy fear of scriptures and when subjecting the class to a prohibitor with regard to scripture its like teaching "something is wrong with scripture.
Qutoing verbatum is saying memorized words. You can quote a story non-verbatum and still be quoting it.
What?!? Oh My? And to what purpose where scripture written then? The scriptures say of themselves?
That is catachesis. What did the 3rd council of carthage say?
or the council of Trent
That is simply untrue. Certainly, the first century christians relied on Apostolic Witness alone. Yet as the Apostles wrote down their letters and notes to the different churches the Church used those word to continue to instruct them when the Apostles were gone as well as the Traditions they left behind. And here is another item you misunderstand. One of the Purposes of Liturgy as taken from the Jews is for community memorization of Scripture. So your summation is faulty here. For most of church history scriptures were memorized by people. Do you know how the rosary came to be? Long before the Dominicans had a beatific vision monks would have knots tied to rope and they would count the knots reciting a psalm for each knot. Interesting for a people who didn’t memorize scripture. And people throughout church history have been encouraged to remember scripture.
not really because they don’t do it in the context of the church magisterium
Then the DRE is being foolish. There is no issue between scripture and the magestium as long as scripture are taught in that context. What the DRE is doing is putting their catachumins in problems for the future by misapplying what the Catholic Church actually teaches. Because these catachumins will go forth explaining the Catholic Church discourages the study of scripture and as always that gets the Church into trouble and causes a false perception that the Catholic church is about burning bibles.
As a matter of fact I do. I’ve memorized tons of scripture and when debating protestant I put up a good fight for the Church force the protestants to review passages in a Catholic Context. Unfortunately, most protestant I do this with are shocked that a Catholic can go head to head with them regarding scriptures. So their opinion of the Catholic faith garnered since the reformation has been confirmed in their minds ie “Catholics hate the bible and are afraid of scriptures” Molarky! Its DRE’s like this that cause the problem.
I hear people talk about God all the time and it doesn’t mean they actually have faith or even what they are talking about.
That’s fine for people who don’t know the bible but I personally would be ashamed if I didn’t know whether something was in the bible or not.
Thats an oxymoron. It’s like saying I don’t preach against homosexuality I just believe and say its wrong. or are you one of those people who don’t draw the line. ie “I don’t criticize homosexuals and their agenda I support them to make them feel at home in the Church?” Thats how these things get corrupted. Next, you’ll be supporting gay clergy? What does the church teach? And stand by that!!!
I haven’t I think. The Roman Empire didn’t fall in a day. However, little chunks of it got taken away and in the end it fell. That is what’s happening to the faith. We have “Catholic” Women being given “Holy Orders” on a cruize ship by a disobedient Bishop, We have the majority of members who don’t hold to the Church’s teaching of contraception and abortion, We have Bishops supporting homosexuality, We have priest spouting heresies! All of these things didn’t happen over night but one discipline at at time. And that is how the Church is being attacked every day in the trenches. Too many Catholics hide from the trenches in favor of societies relavatism.
