Dress Code for Clergy

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Deacon Ed

Since you have been so kind today in other areas what is the “the Eparch of the Eparchia of Newton”. It sounds like we might be bad fruit from a tree. Please remeber the new C’s.
 
hilde the dog:
Deacon Ed

Since you have been so kind today in other areas what is the “the Eparch of the Eparchia of Newton”. It sounds like we might be bad fruit from a tree. Please remeber the new C’s.
Jumping in here for Deacon Ed.

An “Eparch” is the Melkite (and Byzantine) term for a Bishop

An “Eparchy” is the Melkite (and Byzantine) term for a Diocese

The Eparch of the Eparchy of Newton would therefore be the Bishop of the Melkite ‘diocese’ of Newton, Archbishop Cyril Bustros.
 
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General:
That’s the whole point. I don’t believe deacons are “bi-ritual”- at least not in terms of how priests and bishops can be bi-ritual, although they can certainly minister within more than one church/rite with the approvel of the cognizant bishops.
Actually we are bi-ritual in exactly the same sense. The process is easier becuase it doesn’t involve baptism and confirmation/chrismation which is necessary in the Eastern Churches. And, as I said, on eneeds to be bi-ritual if one is to vest in the appropriate vestments.

You seem to be creating a distinction without a difference.

Deacon Ed
 
Father Deacon,
One more thing. There is no longer any such thing as a bi-ritual bishop.
 
Here at St Charles Borromeo Seminary, the seminarians for the diocese are required to wear clerics – aka cassocks during Prayer functions in the chapel, during class and in the refectory… it is great. For me, I am simply wearing a black suit, because I am a postulant in a religious order. nevertheless, it is awesome to be here – like going back in time.
 
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Brendan:
And funeral rosaries!. I saw him once going into a funeral home wearing clerics, rosary in hand, as while I was driving past on my way to my folks place, 👍

(Sue’s DH is the deacon at my folk’s parish 😉 )
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I’m glad to see this topic come up. Our current priest is the only priest I’ve ever known to never wear a roman collar. He usually wears black jeans with a white button down shirt and black jacket, but I have seen him in a black shirt (like a long sleeve crew neck shirt) and black jeans as well. I have always wondered if this is acceptable, but he is a very good priest so I try not to dwell on it too much.
 
hilde the dog:
Brendan thanks for the answer and covering for Deacon Ed
Well, I wouldn’t quite say I was covering for Deacon Ed, those would be some big shoes to fill.

I just happen to have a few good friends how are Byzantine Catholics, and thus knew what an Eparch was.
 
This issue of “dress codes” for the clergy always makes my blood boil.

I am a firm believer in that if you CHOOSE religious life, that’s what it IS ! It’s your LIFE that you dedicate to God and His church. You LIVE it from the moment you wake up until the moment you go to bed. EVERY DAY…not just on Sundays.

If you are a priest, brother etc, and have taken VOWS, you should DRESS accordingly…a cassock, or a collar, etc…not hip jeans and tshirts. If it’s your designated day off from “duty” from your assignment, then OK…I doubt anyone has a problem with that.

SHOW the world that you are a religious and DRESS LIKE ONE.
Not doing so shows (to me ) that your vocation is on an hourly basis…like a 9 to 5 job. IF you are sincere about your vocation you need to wear cleical attire.

I am fully aware that sisters and nuns are not “clergy” but the same applies to them as well. The traditional HABITED orders are getting the vocations…not these plain clothed, dancing in the sanctuary, pants wearing, liberals who don’t want to be recognized for their vocations. It’s ridiculous.

When was the last time you saw the pope wearing jeans and a t-shirt ???

Religious dress for clergy worked for hundreds of years. It’s high time it was brought back and made mandatory.
 
This is a good thread. I have two questions.
one, I’ve seen some priests wearing these Episcopalian-like shirts and collars. (light blue shirt with standard collar)! what the heck is that?! I was kind of praying they WERE Episcopalians who had come to this theological conference but I doubt they were…
two, should priests wear the cassock when out in public, like at a pub, or going to the store?

Thanks

Pax Vobiscum
 
This issue of “dress codes” for the clergy always makes my blood boil.

I am a firm believer in that if you CHOOSE religious life, that’s what it IS ! It’s your LIFE that you dedicate to God and His church. You LIVE it from the moment you wake up until the moment you go to bed. EVERY DAY…not just on Sundays.

If you are a priest, brother etc, and have taken VOWS, you should DRESS accordingly…a cassock, or a collar, etc…not hip jeans and tshirts. If it’s your designated day off from “duty” from your assignment, then OK…I doubt anyone has a problem with that.

SHOW the world that you are a religious and DRESS LIKE ONE.
Not doing so shows (to me ) that your vocation is on an hourly basis…like a 9 to 5 job. IF you are sincere about your vocation you need to wear cleical attire.

I am fully aware that sisters and nuns are not “clergy” but the same applies to them as well. The traditional HABITED orders are getting the vocations…not these plain clothed, dancing in the sanctuary, pants wearing, liberals who don’t want to be recognized for their vocations. It’s ridiculous.

When was the last time you saw the pope wearing jeans and a t-shirt ???

Religious dress for clergy worked for hundreds of years. It’s high time it was brought back and made mandatory.
So a persons right to chose ends when they chose religious life?

Many orders/congregations allow their religious to chose when to wear their habits. Some religious orders did not have a habit as per the choice of their founder and their charism, the habit was enforced upon them from the outside.

Some orders/congregations explicitly lay out when the habit is to be worn, my order’s constitutions does not, so it is up to our personal choice which is supported by my superiors.

I chose to wear it when I am in a ministerial role or when I am attending a public liturgical event. I also wear it on certain feast days. I do not look down upon those who chose otherwise but there is a little question that comes to mind as to why would one want to join an order with a habit and then not wear it.

Some seem to be embarrassed to wear it just as they shy away from being called brother or deacon.
 
This is a good thread. I have two questions.
one, I’ve seen some priests wearing these Episcopalian-like shirts and collars. (light blue shirt with standard collar)! what the heck is that?! I was kind of praying they WERE Episcopalians who had come to this theological conference but I doubt they were…
two, should priests wear the cassock when out in public, like at a pub, or going to the store?

Thanks

Pax Vobiscum
Are you sure they were priests and not deacons?
 
I’ve never seen deacons in a collar although I know they sometimes wear one. I have a feeling they were priests because they were leading groups of people around like all the priests there.
 
I k now a lot of priests that will wear different color clerical shirts. Some wear white ones in the summer because they are cooler. I k now one who prefers gray for daily wear and wears the black when serving in a particular ministry. Some wear colored sweaters over their shirts. I also know many who, when off duty, visiting relatives, going to the dentist, hanging out with friends, will not wear their clericals, and I don’t see anything wrong with that.
 
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