Dress Code for Mass

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I may need to get something like this. I’m taking 2 injections in my belly a day of blood thinners so I’ve got a bunch of bruises. All my slacks are tight along the bruises and it’s a little too chilly for maxi skirts ( for me anyway). That looks like it would be much easier on the belly and provides more coverage than pantyhose for when the toddler gets grabby. 🤦‍♀️
 
I Got a Robe! A Teaching on One of the Most Shocking Parables Jesus Ever Told Posted on August 18, 2016 by Msgr. Charles Pope

" The wedding garment is provided by the king (God the Father), who clothes us in righteousness at our baptism.

For the wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready. Fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear. (Fine linen stands for the righteousness of God’s holy people.) (Rev 19:8)

Yes, this is the baptismal gown, the robe of righteousness, which God gives to the baptized, who have been washed in the blood of the Lamb! In the Baptismal Rite, the celebrant points to the white garment of the newly baptized and says,

You have clothed yourself in Christ. Receive this baptismal garment and bring it unstained to the judgment seat of our Lord Jesus Christ, so that you may have everlasting life (# 578).

In the parable, the man is without a wedding garment not because he is poor or was pulled in off the street, but because he cast aside the garment he was given. Remember that the garment is no mere piece of cloth; it represents righteousness. And this righteousness is received and must be cherished. Without it, we cannot endure or remain at the Wedding Feast of the Lamb, which is Heaven."
 
I had a very holy priest – a great-nephew (I think) of Bl Columba Marmion – who explained that passage of the Gospel. The word “cloak” is a mis-translation. It would make no sense to wrap yourself in a cloak before jumping into the water.

The word actually refers to a fisherman’s belt. The belt had hooks and floats on it that allowed the fisherman to gather the net together and bring the fish to shore without losing any of them. This passage of the Gospel is telling us that Peter gathered in the fish and took them to Jesus, showing Peter’s primacy in the Church and his role as the fisherman of Christ. It’s showing Peter living up to the call of Christ at the beginning of the Gospels and confirming his temporary denial of Christ has not changed his calling or his status.

So Peter wasn’t wearing anything but a belt to greet Jesus, which would suggest an interesting “dress code” at Mass! 😬😳

I would add that I met this priest because he was the chaplain of the most austere Carmel in the UK. So he wasn’t a young priest with strange ideas. He was in his 80s and had discovered this mis-translation on a retreat in the Holy Land. One of the older monks of the community the chaplain was staying with explained it to him and he saw the fishermen of the Sea of Galilee still using those belts. I think that was in the early 1960s.

That chaplain once said Mass at the top of Mount Kilimanjaro, having carried an altar stone all the way up there. He also got detained and questioned at an airport on suspicion of being a drug dealer because he was carrying several thousand pounds/dollars in cash. He’d been taking the money he had raised for the Missionaries of Charity, St Teresa of Culcutta/Kolkata’s community, that he was going to stay with in an African country. He was a great priest and I could imagine him as one of the Desert Fathers: wise, kind, humble, holy and very, very tough!
 
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GiftofMercy said:
admire the image and creation of God, in all things, and stay away from all forms of scandal and lust.
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You say, Here is what Jesus says. . .exactly where did He say this, please? I know you aren’t quoting directly but you’re implying that admiring a person is ‘scandal and lust’ and I’m sorry, but I believe you are just wrong here.

And we aren’t talking ‘women with revealing cleavage’. . .How can you jump to this kind of thing? I believe you are somehow trying to conflate two different things and make them into the same ‘scandal and lust’ when they aren’t.

There’s a scripture passage about pearls and where not to cast them, so I’m withdrawing here. I thought the topic of VEILS could get a little over the top but this, we aren’t even according to some people be able to say or think, "My that gentleman is wearing a well-tailored suit’ or "My, that woman’s pink dress is extremely becoming to her’ because we can ‘only admire God, not people’.

I mean, that is like Mt. EVEREST over-the-top IMO!!
 
Loud-living-dogma said:
I don’t know – you’re making her seem quite worldly.
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I do not think a chaste admiration of God’s human creations is worldly. When my children gather around to help me bathe the new baby and squeal “look at your cute, round belly & kissable tiny nose!” they are admiring God’s human handiwork with complete chastity and un-worldliness. I think that’s how Mary sees all of us: with admiration of God’s good creation in all chastity.
 
Given you are withdrawing I won’t reply beyond this.

If a person’s engagement in self admitted admiration leads them to the confessional for this behaviour, it is behaviour a practicing Catholic should be working on quitting

It goes beyond healthy physical thank you for creating this perfect baby
 
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Interesting blog post from a man about the leggings issue. “Men are admitting a weakness and asking for help. Isn’t that what Christians are supposed to do?”

A Man’s Perspective On Leggings | David Murrow

Men have admitted a weakness. They've asked for help. But instead of compassion, their request is met with anger and defiance. On top of this, the person they've asked for help dismisses, disparages and ridicules them for making the request.
www.patheos.com www.patheos.com
 
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Sorry! I agree with you!
 
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Loud-living-dogma:
I don’t know – you’re making her seem quite worldly.
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I do not think a chaste admiration of God’s human creations is worldly. When my children gather around to help me bathe the new baby and squeal “look at your cute, round belly & kissable tiny nose!” they are admiring God’s human handiwork with complete chastity and un-worldliness. I think that’s how Mary sees all of us: with admiration of God’s good creation in all chastity.
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Siblings admiring a baby is quite cute and wholesome and very different than imagining how the Blessed Mother might admire a good-looking man. Yuck.
 
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Loud-living-dogma said:
Siblings admiring a baby is quite cute and wholesome and very different than imagining how the Blessed Mother might admire a good-looking man. Yuck.
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Well even the good looking man is her spiritual child. But if the concept is gross to you, obviously no reason to ponder it! We don’t all have to envision God and Mary in the same way.
 
Loud-living-dogma said:
I think the problem is I’m imagining Mary on Earth (before her Assumption) looking at a dude in Bible-era clothes saying “Mmm! There’s a well-formed creature of God!” And your thinking that’s totally normal. 🤣
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Bahahaha! Okay that’s not quiiiiiite what I had in mind! Lol.
 
Whereas I am thinking of the Blessed Virgin smiling a completely non sexual smile of approval at her neighbors coming to temple, dressed in plain but becoming apparel. Not, "Hey Good lookin’ or even, “well finally somebody around here is dressing APPROPRIATELY” but an innocent enjoyment. Some women (and men) have beautiful hair; is it wrong to see it and think, “how pretty her curls look with that blue ribbon in her hair”. Or, "how well that shade of brown goes with his eyes. It’s the same kind of enjoyment of seeing a flash of red as a cardinal flies into some bright green pine trees; the color combination is pleasing.

I like to draw and design and knit clothing (mostly doll sized for the latter) and so I really like to see patterns and colors on people and notice what looks especially attractive.
 
We live in a visual, audio and tactile realm. Seeing, hearing and feeling are natural. As long as we can control our behaviors, I don’t see what the big deal is. Of course we’re going to notice people. It’s how we behave that matters.
 
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Does choosing your clothing count as behavior? Do people dressing immodestly count as behavior?
 
I am referring to how WE behave in response to it. We can’t control the behaviors of others. We are responsible for our own behaviors.
 
JanR said:
I am referring to how WE behave in response to it. We can’t control the behaviors of others. We are responsible for our own behaviors.
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Yes, WE are in control of our own behavior. What about the people who dress immodestly, are THEY in control of what they are wearing?
Or only the people viewing their leggings have any control over their own behavior?
 
At the end of the day we have even dress coded the crucifix in the church. Christ was naked when He was killed. We have clothed Him for the scandal it inspires for His people. Can we not at least do so for Him?
 
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