Dripping crucifix sparks Indian blasphemy row [CNAU]

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3 years in prison for warning people that they were drinking a soup of urine and fecal matter instead of holy water? Crazy. You’d think they would be grateful.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
3 years in prison for warning people that they were drinking a soup of urine and fecal matter instead of holy water? Crazy. You’d think they would be grateful.
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If you read the full article, you will find that bad plumbing has apparently not been found to be the cause, and that the man in question is *also *alleged to have spoken badly about religion.
 
St_Francis said:
If you read the full article, you will find that bad plumbing has apparently not been found to be the cause, and that the man in question is *also *alleged to have spoken badly about religion.
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Actually, it implies that Joseph Dias doesn’t think it is the cause; not that it isn’t the cause. I think its obvious that even the possibility of large numbers of people drinking toilet flushings in an attempt to bring about some kind of divine intervention is disturbing and a public health risk. Its unfortunate that those people find it insulting but they need a hard dose of reality before they catch some disease.
 
IMO it doesn’t matter if this is a miracle or not, the state shouldn’t ever jail someone for blasphemy.
 
Regardless of whether its a miracle or bad plumbing, 3 years in prison for blasphemy is ridiculous. I’m glad we have freedom of speech in our country.
 
Especially if you happen to be gay, atheist, or liberal.

A 3-year sentence in prison isn’t necessary for a blasphemer. 3 months of community service would be better IMHO. Maybe it would show him just what he is criticising as bigoted, hateful, and going back to the Dark Ages.
 
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Especially if you happen to be gay, atheist, or liberal.

A 3-year sentence in prison isn’t necessary for a blasphemer. 3 months of community service would be better IMHO. Maybe it would show him just what he is criticising as bigoted, hateful, and going back to the Dark Ages.
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Advocating forced labor for what? Hurting people’s feelings? And what’s the punishment for claiming to have a religious miracle when you don’t?
 
Care to elaborate? The US is a beacon to almost every other state in the world, even today, when it comes to the Bill of Rights, in particular freedom of speech.
 
rlg94086 posts from from within the US, while you do not. Might that fact play into your opinions about free speech being illusory? Care to elaborate?
 
This atheist is punished not for blasphemy but for violating religious freedom and liberty. He have the freedom to continue as an atheist but he does not have the right to go to church and shower his nonsense while religious ceremonies are going on…Here is the discussions on television regarding this with that atheist (Mr Sanal ) and catholic religious laymen and bishops…This video is uploaded by athiests … but you can see the detailed discussions there…

youtube.com/watch?v=TfJ6_ftih0s

instead of commenting about the real topic … water comes from the statue of jesus that athiest try to change the discussion to the issue of Exorcism and Bruno?, What is the role of Bruno and exorcism in this subject??.. This is the way athiests behaves… instead of commenting further on the topic they will change the subject to some other pre learned topics (work of their prejudice)

Let him go to Jail not for blasphemy but for insulting Roman Catholicism … Three years imprisonment is not sufficient …
 
jerry_joseph said:
This atheist is punished not for blasphemy but for violating religious freedom and liberty. He have the freedom to continue as an atheist but he does not have the right to go to church and shower his nonsense while religious ceremonies are going on…Here is the discussions on television regarding this with that atheist (Mr Sanal ) and catholic religious laymen and bishops…This video is uploaded by athiests … but you can see the detailed discussions there…

youtube.com/watch?v=TfJ6_ftih0s
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Nope, he took away the revenue stream for what was becoming a popular false miracle and for that received the wrath of bigots who appealed to an even more bigoted section of India’s Constitution that mandates respect for religions. And to suggest he has the freedom to be an atheist is to deny the reality on the ground when it comes to discrimination against atheists.

Could you imagine the US Constitution having an amendment that made it illegal for a Catholic to upset the feelings of a Scientologist, punishable by prison? Just think about that for a minute. That’s the situation over there.

The TV show asked this well-known provincial Myth-Buster to investigate. And investigate he did. Comfort, as usual, wins out over truth. Despicable.
 
Same punishment will get , if a Roman Catholic goes to atheists conference and insults them… That atheist have freedom not to believe in any religion. But he does not have the right to insult religion… Earlier that person exposed hindu miracles but in a matured way. In an independent stage outside the temple…

youtube.com/watch?v=zp5dSs2ZJf0&feature=related

But here he gone to church and showered his nonsense there. Catholic church does not officially declared it as a miracle .But believers considers this as a miracle. He is telling that may be rain water comes through the nails of Jesus statue…

Rationalists india Exposed New Age miracles…

youtube.com/watch?v=w-h7F2fCb6g&feature=related

youtube.com/watch?v=2p7OPwE4sOQ

A new age baba warns that athiest that if he stood against him he will be killed by his black magic… But he stood against him and nothing happened to him

youtube.com/watch?v=oB5KUZfPmFQ&feature=related

youtube.com/watch?v=1U-1YDvjVIg&feature=related
 
As per Indian Law, a person have the right to believe or not to believe in any faith. But nobody have the right to insult the faith of others. Anybody can preach his faith. Atheists have right to preach atheism…but not have the right to shower mockery at religions…

Here he is punished not for blasphemy. But for violating the religious feelings of Roman Catholics…He gone to catholic church, while church ceremonies are going on he showered his prejudices over their…It is violation of religious freedom. Catholic church filed a suit against him in court and police station. Punishment is given by Indian Judiciary and not catholic church. My personal opinion is three years imprisonment is not enough… He deserves much more.

What happens if a Muslim comes to christian church and disturbs holy mass saying that jesus is not God and not crucified?..What happens if he goes to a hindu temple and stops his freedom of worshiping his Gods. ?..

So some regulations of freedom is required for protecting the basic human right and freedom of everybody. Especially in a multi religious continent like Asia and a multi religious country like india.
 
Same punishment will get , if a Roman Catholic goes to atheists conference and insults them…
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Equally dispicable, if that were true.
But he does not have the right to insult religion…
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I’ll ask again, what is the punishment for claiming to have a miracle when you don’t?
 
India is the worlds biggest democratic country. Home to all world religions … There are more than 30 million christians in India… More than the total population of Canada. It is home to 150 million muslims… More than the total population of Russia and it is the worlds second largest muslim populated nations…

Religious violence’s occurs in India , that is a fact, which is creation of politicians and persons working for political gains from religious feelings… Majority of Indians are peace lovers…
 
I’m not asking anyone to adopt the US Constitution, I am asking for reflection and most importantly, awareness about an event that exquisitely highlights problems when religion and state are intertwined.
 
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Equally dispicable, if that were true.

I’ll ask again, what is the punishment for claiming to have a miracle when you don’t?
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Here church did not made any official decree that it is a miracle… When believers saw water coming from crucified statue of Jesus, they thought that it is a miracle…They gathered around that statue and started offering prayers. Please listen to the voice of catholic bishop in that video… He clearly states that church did not officially declared it as a miracle… Then that athiests tries to changes the topic to the issue of Bruno and Exorcism… What is the role of bruno and exorcism in this subject?..
 
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I’m not asking anyone to adopt the US Constitution, I am asking for reflection and most importantly, awareness about an event that exquisitely highlights problems when religion and state are intertwined.
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Here there is no intervention of religion in state matters… Here that atheist is punished for insulting Roman Catholicism by coming to catholic church and showered his prejudices there while church ceremonies are going on there. Is it right?. Tomorrow if a catholic goes to atheists conference and disturbs their conference , same thing will happen. he will also be punished…
 
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