Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson on Indefinite Hiatus Following Anti-Gay Remarks

[travissbeloved]

I am not an avid watcher of the show, simply because of time constraints, although I have seen a few of the reruns more than once (the one with Willie trying to lose weight by doing yoga is really funny).

Anyway, I specifically watched a rerun last night, because I wanted to see 1) if Phil was edited out, and 2) to see if A&E placed some sort of disclaimer on the show. (Neither happened.)

I was, however, treated to a KMart commercial with guys in multi-colored boxers making suggestive movements to the tune of “Jingle Bells.” Apparently, that meets A&E’s high standards, and I should not voice my opinion about being offended by it.

That commercial is awful! My 3 yr old son saw it and said “Mom why are they shaking their butts like that?” I was horrified and turned the channel and told him they were just being silly…

 

[travissbeloved]

I’d also like to point out that there is an episode where Phil and Ms. Kay hire a very obviously homosexual man (and if he wasn’t then I guess he was just extremely feminine) to do their family pictures with the little dogs. Phil complained about having to pose in a million poses outside but he was never hateful at all towards the man.

 

[Lost_Sheep]

I’d also like to point out that there is an episode where Phil and Ms. Kay hire a very obviously homosexual man (and if he wasn’t then I guess he was just extremely feminine) to do their family pictures with the little dogs. Phil complained about having to pose in a million poses outside but he was never hateful at all towards the man.

I don’t think he would be hateful to the photographer or anyone else. It’s just that that he doesn’t approve of homosexual behavior.

Remember: Hate the sin; not the sinner.

 

[travissbeloved]

I don’t think he would be hateful to the photographer or anyone else. It’s just that that he doesn’t approve of homosexual behavior.

Remember: Hate the sin; not the sinner.

That was the point I was trying to make. If all these liberal people are saying he was trying to be hateful he would’ve been in that episode as well.

 

[Gorgias]

VanSensei:

I think it was him comparing it to bestiality that angered the channel.

^ this. Everything else he said was fine, but this was unnecessary.

I agree with the poster who said that he didn’t compare bestiality with homosexuality, but just lumped them both in the category of sinfulness. Let’s look at two quotes side by side – one of them is Robertson’s, from the GQ article, and the other is from a ‘mystery’ author:

If [the sexual urge in a human being] is directed towards the sexual attributes as such, this must be recognized as an impoverishment or even a perversion of the urge. If it is directed towards the sexual attributes of a person of the same sex we speak of a homosexual deviation. Still more emphatically do we speak of sexual deviation if the urge is directed not towards the sexual attributes of a human being but towards that of an animal.

[Robertson] sees the popularity of Duck Dynasty as a small corrective to all that we have lost.

“Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong,” he says. “Sin becomes fine.”

What, in your mind, is sinful?

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he says. Then he paraphrases Corinthians: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

Are these both ‘hate speech’? Are they both ‘unnecessary’? Or are they both simply identifying that these are both types of sinful behavior?

Who’s the author of the other quote, you ask? Scroll down to find out…

Karol Wojtyła, in his 1960 book ‘Love and Responsibility’. Yup, you got it – Pope John Paul II, as Bishop Wojtyła, in his philosophical examination of human conjugal love…!

 

[John_Lazarus]

I cut ‘n’ paste the following from the GQ website:

“Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong,” he says. “Sin becomes fine.”

What, in your mind, is sinful?

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, **sleeping around with this woman **and that woman and that woman and those men,” he says. Then he paraphrases Corinthians: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

He did not equate homosexuality with bestiality, if he did you have to say he also equated bestiality with heterosexual sex outside of marriage (see bolded bit). And if you say instead that Phil said homosexuality **leads **to bestiality, then you have to say he also said homosexuality can lead to heterosexual sex. We wouldn’t want that, would we?

Also, his reply was to “What, in your mind, is sinful?” He could just have easily added larceny, blasphemy and missing Mass on Sunday.

 

[Costner]

A&E is done. The only thing they left for them is the new Mark Walhberg show “Wahlburgers” a show about the Wahlbergs and their family own burger restaurant in Mark Wahlberg’s hometown of Boston. Wonder how A&E will react if they someday find out Mark is a devout Catholic who goes to mass twice on Sundays and is not really the wild party guy he plays on screen.

Seriously though A&E are stupid. They know the Robertsons are Christians and they should know what Christians believe in. Why bother picking up the show if they knew that their beliefs do not match theirs?

 

[Mikeydell]

Now I am most definitely purchasing Duck Dynasty memorabilia!

Go Phil!!!

Mike

 

[_Abyssinia]

When asked about whether he witnessed bigotry or racism against black people growing up in the pre-Civil-Rights South, the 67-year-old Louisiana native told the magazine:

“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field… They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!.. Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

businessinsider.com/phil-robertson-on-racism-in-gq-article-2013-12

 

[stevegravy]

What happy self supporting black folks, next on MSNBC, Phil gives proof of his latent racism and white privledge. Here the dog whistles blowing.

 

[Bubba_Switzler]

ideas.time.com/2013/12/19/the-duck-dynasty-fiasco-says-more-about-our-bigotry-than-phils/

spectator.org/blog/57213/phil-robertson-wont-shut-and-media-hates-it

 

[Sheeniac]

but he didn’t really need to say all those things about anatomy and logic),

Always be prepared to give a defense of your faith, suggested St. Paul. You’re assuming that the GQ reporter wouldn’t have asked for an explanation, as well. I think they would have asked until they got what they wanted (i.e. his reasons).

 

[Sheeniac]

I think it was him comparing it to bestiality that angered the channel.

That is a secular interpretation of what he said. In fact, he lumped it in with sexual sins, of which bestiality is one. I think we need to be able to call that out.

 

[Son_of_Niall]

I don’t watch reality TV and could only stand a few minutes of “Duck Dynasty”, which I watched just to see what all the fuss was about. So, pardon my unfamilarity with this show.
What did the guy say that was so wrong? He is a Christian and he quoted the Bible.
But in the new society we have created, he broke the golden rule: never say anything bad about the homosexual lifestyle. That is a cardinal sin today. You can lose your job, and soon, I’m sure, be put on a watch list for a visit from a drone.
Do gay rights supporters realize they are having the exact opposite effect of their stated intent? Do they realize this will create more hatred? You start stifling free speech and become the thought police, watch and see how far it gets you.
Being gay is not like being black or Asian, it’s a behavioral difference, not a physical one. Whether you like it or not, people are not going to approve of you. And you cannot force people to do so. Thousands of years of history has shown that.
Does anybody know the “passage back to the place I was before”?

 

[Brendan]

That is a secular interpretation of what he said. In fact, he lumped it in with sexual sins, of which bestiality is one. I think we need to be able to call that out.

Exactly, either GLADD and A&E are really confused about the English language and think Phil made a statement about causality (homosexual behaviors cause bestiality)

Or they think that Julie Andrews thought that whiskers on kittens were made out of bright copper kettles because she linked those as well

 

[colmywaykurtz]

A&E is done. The only thing they left for them is the new Mark Walhberg show “Wahlburgers” a show about the Wahlbergs and their family own burger restaurant in Mark Wahlberg’s hometown of Boston. Wonder how A&E will react if they someday find out Mark is a devout Catholic who goes to mass twice on Sundays and is not really the wild party guy he plays on screen.

Seriously though A&E are stupid. They know the Robertsons are Christians and they should know what Christians believe in. Why bother picking up the show if they knew that their beliefs do not match theirs?

Because they gambled on being able to milk this thing for a lot more before something like this happened–they recognize the demographic that watches this show and wanted a piece of it. This gamble simply did not pay off.

 

[CatholicFireman]

I wish he hadn’t answered that baited question and at the same time I’m proud that he wasn’t afraid to express his personal feelings on the subject.

 

[Holly3278]

I’ve never watched this show but I am sickened by their actions taken against Phil. I read what he said and he did not say anything wrong. His beliefs are pretty much the same as the Catholic Church’s beliefs.

That said, I am going to be boycotting A&E until they put Phil back on the show!

 

[livingwordunity]

If I may ask without being lynched: why would a gay person be offended if someone said gay behavior could morph into bestiality if a person’s sexuality is what it is, and if we should tolerate other sexual views, then why would they not just think people who like bestiality are just another strain of sexual preference? Could there be some subconscious tickle in their mind that tells them this is wrong? Could they articulate why outside of an emotional response?

Exactly. Moral relativism, the central dogma of leftist ideology, says that things are only evil if we say they are.

 

[JRRTFAN]

Originally Posted by VanSensei View Post
I think it was him comparing it to bestiality that angered the channel

That is a secular interpretation of what he said. In fact, he lumped it in with sexual sins, of which bestiality is one. I think we need to be able to call that out.

Not so. The channel wasn’t angered. The tolerant people of GLAAD were angered and they took time from their mission of feeding the poor to register their anger with A&E. And everybody in the mainstream media buckles if the courageous rainbow warriors of GLAAD, that stalwart sponsor of the Folsom Street Fair, make one iota of a complaint. Don’t know what the Folsom Street Fair is? Google it. Learn what it is for people who are downtrodden to strut their pride.

This is the crowd who derides an honest Christian family man, husband, father and employer because he doesn’t understand why they do what they do so well, and I must say I don’t either.