Early Christianity in India

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Early Christianity in India

A bit of Christian history often overlooked.

It is rare to see an article that attempts to cover the entire story of the Christian community established by Saint Thomas in India. I will not vouch for the complete accuracy, but I give then a lot of credit for trying so hard to be comprehensive.

For those who are curious a little background, the region is at the southern/western edge of India, which was a trading stop between the Roman empire and points further east. There was actually a community of Jews in the region in Jesus Christ’s day with several synagogs.

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hg/hg_d_trade_d1map.jpg

Early St. Thomas Christians

The followers were called St. Thomas Christians. There is no documentary evidence referring to the way the Indian Church was governed during early centuries. This is because Archbishop Menezis destroyed all the historical records in 1599 AD. The church established by St. Thomas in the Malabar Coast remained as an independent group, and got their bishops from Eastern Orthodox Church in Antioch in Syria.

They had their own practices and ways of life - It was mostly Hindu in culture and Christian in belief. The St. Thomas Christians used the East Syrian liturgy from the earliest times, since Aramaic (East Syriac) was the language spoken by Jesus and His disciples. This liturgy is attributed to Addai, the disciple of St. Thomas, whom the Apostle sent to Edessa and Mari the disciple of Addai who worked in Seleucia. Addai and Mari are considered the Apostles of Edessa and Seleucia. They received the fundamental structure of the liturgy from St. Thomas himself. The Malabar Christians were aware of the developments of the liturgy in Edessa and Seleucia. They accepted these developments in East Syrian liturgy because they were connected with the name of their Apostle Thomas and were resplendent with resonances of what they themselves had originally received from St. Thomas.

As a Church that existed outside the Roman Empire, the Church of the St. Thomas Christians had little contact with Rome. They maintained communion with the Church of Persian Empire, which later came to be known as the East Syrian or Chaldean or Babylonian Church which was under the jurisdiction of the Patriarchate of Antioch until 498 AD. This Church, with its liturgical center in Edessa, had also claimed its origin from St. Thomas. Thus the East Syrian or Chaldean liturgy was used by the St. Thomas Christians. This East Syrian Church and its liturgy developed by Mar Addai and Mar Mari from Palestinian Christianity through Antioch and Edessa and they resisted the influence of Constantinople.

A Catholicate of the East was established at the Jerusalem Synod in 231 A.D. The headquarters of the Church was first in Edessa in Persia. The Patriarch of Antioch used to appoint a Archbishop entitled CATHOLICOSE to administer this Eastern Dioceses (parts of Persian Empire) beyond the boundaries of the Roman Empire. This institution was setup to serve as a link between the Patriarch of Antioch, and the Syrian Christian Community in Persia who found the journey to the Patriarchate at Antioch, hazardous because of the bitter political rivalry between the Roman and Persian empires. The Indian Church was administered by these Maphriyono’s of the East and Metropolitans. But due to local persecutions and other restraints it was not easy to send bishops frequently to Malabar to administer Holy Mooron and sacraments. Hence, except for ecclesiastical assistance, the Malankara Church remained independent.

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Thanks for providing this. Many people never realize that Christianity was active since the first century in India.

I only knew because of the Orthodox teaching on the Dormition which mentions that St. Thomas a miraculously brought out of India to the Theotokos after she’d died - ever the doubting Thomas, he had her tomb opened so he could see for himself and when they opened the tomb her body was gone.

What’s your opinion of the visions of Our Lady of Vailankanni - are they Orthodox? I know that the Catholic Church - have since built Churches over or near the apparition sites - are taking claim. But didn’t the Church in India remain Non-Chalcedonian Orthodox, until the early 1900’s when parts of it joined the Catholic Church?
 
Thanks for providing this. Many people never realize that Christianity was active since the first century in India.

**I only knew because of the Orthodox teaching on the Dormition which mentions that St. Thomas a miraculously brought out of India to the Theotokos after she’d died - ever the doubting Thomas, he had her tomb opened so he could see for himself and when they opened the tomb her body was gone. **

What’s your opinion of the visions of Our Lady of Vailankanni - are they Orthodox? I know that the Catholic Church - have since built Churches over or near the apparition sites - are taking claim. But didn’t the Church in India remain Non-Chalcedonian Orthodox, until the early 1900’s when parts of it joined the Catholic Church?
Can you explain the above bold please.

And also, can you please link some sources to this from the Orthodox side so I may read them.

Thanks.

Edit to add for poster:

I’m only asking about St. Thomas being in India when Mother Mary died.
 
Can you explain the above bold please.

And also, can you please link some sources to this from the Orthodox side so I may read them.

Thanks.

Edit to add for poster:

I’m only asking about St. Thomas being in India when Mother Mary died.
You have your religion listed as “Orthodox”? You would have heard it recounted during Liturgy. Anyway, here is a link to the source I have personally. It’s a wonderful resource. 🙂

holyapostlesconvent.org/HacWebStore/product_info.php?cPath=1_5&products_id=24
 
You have your religion listed as “Orthodox”? You would have heard it recounted during Liturgy. Anyway, here is a link to the source I have personally. It’s a wonderful resource. 🙂

holyapostlesconvent.org/HacWebStore/product_info.php?cPath=1_5&products_id=24
Thanks for the link ~ I wasn’t interested in buying books to read ~ I was more looking for internet sites which I might be able to review.

I was born, raised and grew up as “Greek Orthodox Christian”.

However, in my Church, we have Romanian, Russian, Georgian, Ukrainian, American and **all sorts **of “Greek Orthodox Christians” ~ and please note, they are **NOT **Greek.

I, growing up in the Church in my younger years and days, if the priest ever talked about St. Thomas being in India, well then it went over my head or perhaps I was not listening.

I’ve watched your posts & threads for quite some time now and I tend NOT to answer them.

The majority of the time I just do this: :ehh: and this :whistle: and also this :hmmm:

By the time I’m done, I feel like this: :yawn: :sleep:

All of the time I see the bickering of Catholics and Orthodox Christians, when they go at it on this site make me feel just like THIS :mad:

I do not partake in those conversations. It just breaks my heart.

**I come from a family of 2 Christian religions. **

**Catholic & Greek Orthodox and I’ll assure you, we do NOT behave like you all behave here on this CAF site. **

**And yes, we do attend both Churches depending on the celebration. **

Whether some Catholics & some Orthodox Christians may agree or disagee, we, our family are happy as we are and we have been like this for centuries.
 
This is a great topic, Hesychios, and I thank you for bringing it to the board’s attention.

If anyone is interested in another great resource on Christianity in India, there is also the Christian Musicological Society of India, based in Kerala. In addition to producing a great deal of Christian music on CD and LP (dating back to the 1970s, at least), they have also recently produced a DVD called “Kerala, the Cradle of Christianity in South Asia” that relates something of the history and diversity of Christian worship in India, particularly with reference to musical form. I haven’t seen it, but from brief clips on youtube like this, this, and this, it is a definite must-see.
 
Could we call the Christians in India the first Thomists? 😛

In Christ,
Andrew
 
Can you explain the above bold please.

And also, can you please link some sources to this from the Orthodox side so I may read them.

Thanks.

Edit to add for poster:

I’m only asking about St. Thomas being in India when Mother Mary died.
Check New Advent’s Catholic Encyclopedia article “Apocryphal Works on the Assumption of Mary.”
 
What’s your opinion of the visions of Our Lady of Vailankanni - are they Orthodox?
Sorry to say I have never heard of it up until now.

But having perused the web for info I see that she appeared and spoke. I am skeptical of any and all such apparitions, so I’ll take a pass on that one.
 
Dang. I didn’t even think of that, Hesychios. Sorry! There is a short video at the film’s IMDB page here that you may be able to play, though it is different than any of the ones I linked to earlier. If you can open the CMS page I linked earlier, there is a link on that page where you can read the back cover of the DVD for more information.
 
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