Eastern Rite Seminaries

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Madaglan said:
I stayed overnight at St. Josaphat’s one evening before the March for Life, and I didn’t see any classrooms (though many dorm rooms), so I’m not surprised that they take classes at Catholic University.

I would imagine that the seminarians either use the chapel inside the seminary or the shrine church next door for liturgical practice.
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I believe that they use the chapel for that, they also help out at the shrine next door, especially on Sundays.

I attended an abbreviated vespers for St Josaphat. They packed so many of us in the chapel it was standing room only shoulder to shoulder. It was Heaven on Earth!
 
ByzCath said:
I believe that they use the chapel for that, they also help out at the shrine next door, especially on Sundays.
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Just to clarify, this is the HOLY FAMILY UKRAINIAN CATHOLIC SHRINE and not the SHRINE OF THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION as both are “next door” to St. Josephat’s…😃
 
malphono said:
It’s a pet peeve of mine too, but in a slightly different way.

Yes, there are proper terms, and we certainly can and often do use them here on this forum, but the fact of the matter is that, when speaking in English, Maronites, Syriacs (including the OC), and Chaldeans (not sure about the ACoE), all tend to use the word “Mass” although some (particularly among some Maronites in the US in an absurd attempt to appear more “Eastern”) opt to use the Byzantine term “Divine Liturgy” instead.

This issue has come up before in this same forum, and I continue to hold the position that, if I’m going to use an English word, it might as well be “Mass” rather than a Byzantine import.

Very few of the above listed will, when speaking in English, say “I’m going to qourbono” or “I’m going to quddas” or “I’m going to qourobo” or “I’m going to raza or “I’m going to qourbana”.” If we start translating each name we end up with a soup that no one is going to digest very well: the Maronites would have “offering” (or “hallowing”), the Syriacs a “drawing near” and the Chaldeans a “mystery” or an “offering” and the listener needs a program to keep them all straight. (I’ve no idea what the Alexandrene or Armenian customs are, whether in English or otherwise.) Simpler to just say “I’m going to Mass” and everyone will understand.
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malphono,
I understand what you are saying but my issue is that when one says Mass a certain image comes to mind for many people. While a Maronite may say Mass, they do not mean Mass. I am for clarity in the words that we use.
 
I’m not sure if this is off topic for the OP but Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute in Berkeley,CA offers a Master of Arts in Orthodox Christian Studies.

“… The Institute is an inter-Orthodox endeavor, representing the diversity of Orthodoxy in America: Albanian, Antiochian, Bulgarian, Carpatho-Russian, Greek, OCA, Romanian, Serbian and Ukranian… Seminarians from a great diversity of Christian backgrounds have the unique chance to learn about Orthodox theology and liturgy first-hand from our superb faculty.”

(Also, their “Campus Ministry program provides Orthodox students at the University of California at Berkeley and the Graduate Theological Union with a place to meet, worship, study, and further explore the significance of faith and Orthodox values for their lives. On Tuesday evenings, students have the opportunity to attend Divine Liturgy, to gather for supper, and simply to socialize with other members of our community.” It seemed an Orthodox version of what the Newman Center is for RC I’d say, as a Roman Catholic. I’ve only been there once unfortunately, due to ongoing schedule conflict, for the Tu. night Divine Liturgy and supper following. I happened to hit the night they had an annual lecture which was a wonderful presentation by a former PAOI student, now a priest. I’m sure there were at least 20 Orthodox college age students there that night, a number of gals my age-- old enough to be their moms and grandmothers, and several priests.)
 
mlouise007 said:
That is very exciting! Congratulations! What a testament to the dedication of your community there. I was blessed to attend Vespers at St. Peter Chaldean Catholic Cathedral somewhere in that area last summer.
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it really is.

in the past 5 years under Mar Sarhad Jammo, our beloved bishop, we’ve had 4 women join the religious life, opened a seminary with a bunch of men discerning the preisthood, and been part of an amazing moment with thousands of Assyrians, including Mar Bawai Soro, 6 priests, and about 15 deacons coming over to the Church and reuniting with our brothers and sister. Our bible studies, both in high school and and college are going great, and I’m sure God will continue to bless us if we continue to offer a worthy Qurbana and live a sacrificial life.

Here are some video’s that Fr. Andy makes for bible study in high school.

Making St. Andrew:
youtube.com/watch?v=CP0aR2CwRt0&feature=related

Cloud of Witnesses:
youtube.com/watch?v=Pz6Wf-Gk4Xw&feature=channel
 
Madaglan said:
The required Latin is interesting.
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Interesting also othat I have read at this sait that Roman Catolic priests no longer study at all Latin language - even liturgical. Our priests must know Latin, Greek and of course must know Church Slavonic, which has grammar similar Greek.
 
To clarify a few things: St. Josaphat’s does have classes at the seminary, and not all students attend CUA or the Dominican House of Studies for all classes.

In addition to St. Josaphat’s, in North America the UGCC has a seminary in Ottawa, Ontario (Holy Spirit) and a minor seminary (St. Basil’s) in Stamford, Connecticut. There is also a junior college in Jenkintown, PA that is not directly part of the seminary.

Also not all Orthodox seminaries require or even teach Latin anymore.
 
Orthodox liturgy is so appealing, uplifting, faith-promoting. When are we Catholics going to revisit our liturgy, which since Vatican II, has been less than inspiring?

Hasn’t Holy Father Benedict XVI spoken on the need to reform our liturgy?

In Christ
 
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