Eating their god

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Rebecca Sexton sure has a messed up idea of Catholicism. What she wrote reminds me of a Jack Chick tract I found on my windshield after Mass ‘The Cookie God’.

I’ve found websites like this and e-mailed the people and tried to talk to them and explain our position and just gotten nasty e-mails back. So it doesn’t do any good to argue with them. Just pray for them and hope God can get through because we certainly can’t.
 
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Sirach14:
If anyone hates the Eucharist it is Rebecca Sexton. I believe she stays awake at night thinking of new ways to poke fun and ridicule the doctrine.

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Hmm, also had a browse of the sites message board - there is a catholic poster in there doing a good job. Never retailates to posts which either personally attack him or the Church. (I take my hat of to him) :tiphat:

Did notice lots of complaints about trojans and spyware - off to run spybot!
 
Nothing really new here. Just amazes me though, instead of trying to learn and understand, they attack. I guess that is easier.

We should pray for them and let the Holy Spirit do what He does best, Enter their hearts and minds and convert them.
 
Jesus said, “As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me.” (John 6:57)
 
I guess we are to beleive that the entire Christian church got this wrong until John Calvin and Zwinglii denied the Real Presence and Body and Blood of Christ in the eucharist.

So much for the gates of hell will not be prevailing against the church.
 
Yo,

I visited Rebecca Sexton’s web-page. Yikes, it’s scary. But, it’s still not even close to the one with the black background, and WWF Undertaker or whatever music, that had quotes from Popes in blood red font, and all these claims that the Roman Catholic Church worships pagan deities and supresses the Bible amongst its churches! I don’t know what web page that is, but if you ever came across it, you’d have nightmares!

Anyways. I sent her a nice email, asking her if she believed in the Trinity. I was nice, I told her who I am, and that I’m Presbyterian, and that I hope she believes in the Trinity because if you deny the Trinitarian God, then your Scriptural interpretation will quickly run amuck, and you will be led to idolatry and looking for salvation from the Civil Government.

So, she wrote me back a few hours later, and politely replied that she doesn’t use the word Trinity because it’s not in the Bible.
However, I believe in the “Godhead” (Father, Son and Holy Spirit. the true Biblical term!)

That’s what she said. But what does it mean? You can be an anti-Trinitarian and believe that! I kind of want to email her back and, nicely, ask her if she uses the term “liturgy” since that is in the Bible (the original Greek of course). II Cor. 9:12 for example.
Sometimes “minister” and “service” are from that word.

Anyways, is that what extreme anti-Catholics always pick at if you ask them a doctrinal question that has a little bit of philosophy inherent in it?

I do think I’ll write her back and tell her that she and her crew would have much more credance with Catholics if they would just discuss and listen to the Catholic side of things. Like, why should you Catholics listen to her if she won’t listen to you? Of course, she used to be Catholic, so she’s probably listened all she wants to.
 
she does have a ‘beef’ with the church. her site is riddled with mistakes, and it would probably help if she mentioned that the Old Testament also says that eating the blood is eating the life of an animal, and not just the ‘pagan’ practice she DOES refer to.

she also doesn’t seem to have a clue about the ‘unchanging dogma’ versus the ‘changing doctrine or discipline’ of the church she criticizes.

poor rebecca. let’s pray for her.
 
From what I’ve seen from various anti-Catholic sites, it’s always the same things being wrongly attacked… The most ridiculous I’ve ever seen was from Jack Chick. He sure needs to get his facts straight about a lot of things.

And all these anti-Catholic websites have the same tone to it, the kind of tone that pretty much says “All Catholics are going to HELL!!!” And then you get the usual accusations and attacks.

Does that way of “evangelizing Catholics” actually work?? Do a lot of Catholics give into those type of tactics?
 
i don’t think so. i think most people who read those already hate the church, and this gives them more reason to say ‘we’re right and they’re wrong.’
 
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From what I’ve seen from various anti-Catholic sites, it’s always the same things being wrongly attacked… The most ridiculous I’ve ever seen was from Jack Chick. He sure needs to get his facts straight about a lot of things.

And all these anti-Catholic websites have the same tone to it, the kind of tone that pretty much says “All Catholics are going to HELL!!!” And then you get the usual accusations and attacks.

Does that way of “evangelizing Catholics” actually work?? Do a lot of Catholics give into those type of tactics?
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Some of them don’t like the KJV very much​

  • it mentions “pagan” words like “ghost”, “Easter”, “Amen”, “Christ”, “Church”.
According to a writer on the Jack Chick site, the translators of the AV/KJV may have been Divinely inspired.

Both sites slam the CC :whacky: :bigyikes: ##
 
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Chrismasfetus:
And all these anti-Catholic websites have the same tone to it, the kind of tone that pretty much says “All Catholics are going to HELL!!!” And then you get the usual accusations and attacks.

Does that way of “evangelizing Catholics” actually work?? Do a lot of Catholics give into those type of tactics?
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Such tactics might work, but only up to a certain point, and only in the case of the faint-hearted and poorly instructed ‘nominal’ Catholic, but not in most cases.

Gerry 🙂
 
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RobedWithLight:
Such tactics might work, but only up to a certain point, and only in the case of the faint-hearted and poorly instructed ‘nominal’ Catholic, but not in most cases.

Gerry 🙂
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Thank God for our enemies! I think guys and dolls like Jack Chick and Rebecca bring more people to Catholicism than drive away. A person with half an ounce of critical thinking looks at these sites and tracts and says, “C’mon, it is one thing to say the Catholic Church is wrong here and there, but another that it is absolutely wrong about everything.” It is so overkill that all it takes is to show one misrepresentation to get one thinking about what else these guys are misrepresenting about the Church.

Scott
 
Dude… What is the deal with the warped out illustration? Someone has to of been taking some messed up drugs to think of that.

I don’t believe in other religions, but I don’t think of it of being evil. I just assume their belief is sincere and their desire for truth is well meaning.
 
Scott Waddell:
Thank God for our enemies! I think guys and dolls like Jack Chick and Rebecca bring more people to Catholicism than drive away. A person with half an ounce of critical thinking looks at these sites and tracts and says, “C’mon, it is one thing to say the Catholic Church is wrong here and there, but another that it is absolutely wrong about everything.” It is so overkill that all it takes is to show one misrepresentation to get one thinking about what else these guys are misrepresenting about the Church.

Scott
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This thread is really unraveling, in a good way! For me, realizing that the Catholic Church has very reasonable, convincing, challenging, and maybe even TRUE answers to so many genres of anti-Catholic claims, really has made me take the Catholic faith seriously.

I have thought in the past – Why is it that I can come face to face with Mormons, JW’s, Seventh Day Adventists, Church of Christ, Apostolic type Pentecostals, and not be drawn in by them? Not that they don’t have strong emotional arguments and plenty of Scripture passages to supposedly support their views, but rather that it’s just not convincing. But the RCC, supposedly 100x worse than any of those groups, actually has an “aura” of purity and holiness about it, despite what the nay-sayers say!

Anyways, that’s just me, but apparently I’m not alone in thinking that.
 
Reformed Rob, thankyou for defending the Catholic Church in your email. I haven’t met many non-Catholics who would defend us like that. Thankyou again.
 
Scott Waddell:
Thank God for our enemies! I think guys and dolls like Jack Chick and Rebecca bring more people to Catholicism than drive away. A person with half an ounce of critical thinking looks at these sites and tracts and says, “C’mon, it is one thing to say the Catholic Church is wrong here and there, but another that it is absolutely wrong about everything.” It is so overkill that all it takes is to show one misrepresentation to get one thinking about what else these guys are misrepresenting about the Church.

Scott
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Often, a sweeping condemnation of something [like Catholicism] makes other people more, not less curious about what Catholicism is really all about.

Gerry 🙂
 
and i quoted : “on a practical level, the evangelical has reduced the soul of man to little more than his intellect. as a result, evangelicals sermons tend to be from twenty to fifty minutes long every sunday. that is how evangelicals feed their souls of their faithful,through their mind. for them there is little way other than through the mind for the soul to be strenghthened. for catholics ,however,the will is the essential part of the soul. it is fed directly through its participationn at the mass.” i wonder how rebecca will think if she will find out that this is a quoted from a former fundamentalist now catholic. thank you mr. d. currie:thumbsup:
 
Hopefully nobody will mind me briefly keeping you up to date with my email coorespondence with Rebecca Sexton! I can’t believe it, she’s emailed me 2 times!

Ok, my response email to her after she emailed me, I said basically, in response to her “Trinity is not in the Bible” statement, that neither is the word “Bible” but the word “Scriptures” is, and that I don’t think it’s wrong for people to use terms to describe things (doctrine, beliefs, whatever) taught in Scripture, that we do not need to necessarily be limited by the words Scripture uses.

Side thought, Scripture is not written in our vulgar language. So why do we put so much emphasis on the way Hebrew and Greek words are translated? Why not demand that we all learn the original languages, and then use only the original language? Words are just a formality, necessary as they are!

Anyways, so she responded and said she doesn’t know if I have the “Catholic” or “Christian” understanding of the Trinity in my mind. She asked me if I believe “the Trinity is a mystery that no man can understand.” I told her basically:

"I know, personally, even though maybe I can come to grasp (to some degree) the teaching that Christ was eternally begotten of the Father, but is coeternal with Him (I John 1:1,2 / Gen 1:1-3 / Col. 1:15-17, and things like that, it’s totally mind blowing and awes me to think of it. … But is it a mystery that no man can understand? It seems to me that I can have faith to the utmost (full faith) and still only understand it only the smallest fraction of the whole that there is to know (limited mental understanding). "

Anyways I’m rambling now> I asked her if that was the Christian or Catholic understanding of the Trinity, and to tell me the difference. What’s happening here? Is she going to pounce on me?
 
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