Originally Posted by JeanMichel
You state there were no witnesses; I seem to recall reading in the Book of several witnesses. Am I not remembering correctly?
I wonder how you would perceive a Mormon that talked in the same degrading manner about Catholicism as you do about Mormonism? I have a suspicion that you would be the first to want to burn someone at the stake and call for holy war. It makes me more than sad when I see this type of behavior from someone that calls themself a Christian. And they will call to me Lord, Lord and I will say to them, depart from me for I have never known you. You cannot act this way and say you know Christ; I am sorry but they do not go hand in hand; it is impossible. The Holy Spirit guides in humility, patience, and love. This is not present in any of your words. Why?
JeanMichel, pointing out evidence that brings into question the legitimacy of a particular faith is a noble exercise and nothing of which to be ashamed. They certainly have an opportunity to answer or refute anything anyone has said here.
If you want to hear degrading commentary on the Catholic Church, early Mormon writings are right up front; “the whore of Babylon”, “mother of harlots”, etc. No one here has come close in matching the degrading comments of Mormons toward Catholics. Come on.
Thank you, Steve. I suspect JeanMichael knows little about Mormonism. He can correct me if I’m wrong.
Here’s corroboration of what Steve wrote to JeanMichael:
From the 1830
Book of Mormon, First Book of Nephi, pages 30 - 34, that is in my library:
– quote-- And the angel of the Lord said unto me . . . behold, after this thou seest the foundation of a
great and abominable church, which is the
most abominable above all other churches; for behold,
they have taken away from the Gospel of the Lamb, many parts which are plain and most precious; and also,
many Covenants of the Lord have they taken away; and
all this have they done, that they might pervert the right ways of the Lord; that they might blind the eyes and harden the hearts of the children of men; wherefore, thou seest that after the Book hath gone forth through the hands of the
great and abominable church, that there are **many plain and precious things taken away from the Book, which is the Book of the Lamb of God **. . .
And it came to pass that the angel of the Lord spake unto me, saying: Behold, saith the Lamb of God . . . the Gentiles do stumble exceedingly, because of the plain and precious parts of the Gospel of the Lamb which hath been kept back,
by that abominable church, which is the mother of harlots . . .
And the House of Israel shall no more be confounded; and that great pit which hath been digged for them,
by that great and abominable church, which hath been founded by the Devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to Hell . . .
And it came to pass that when the angel had spoken these words . . .And it came to pass that he saith unto me, Look, and
behold that great and abominable church, which is the mother of abominations, whose foundation is the Devil. And he saith unto me, Behold, there is, save it be, two churches: the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and
the other is the church of the Devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God, belongeth to
that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth.
And it came to pass that I beheld the church of the Lamb of God, and its numbers were few, **because of the wickedness and abominations of the whore **which sat upon many waters; nevertheless, I beheld that the church of the Lamb, which were the saints of God, were also upon all the face of the earth; and their dominion upon the face of the earth was small,
because of the wickedness of the great whore which I saw.
And it came to pass, that I beheld that **the great mother of abominations **did gather together multitudes upon the face of the earth, among all the nations of the Gentiles, to fight against the Lamb of God . . .
And it came to pass that I beheld the wrath of God was poured out upon
the great and abominable church . . . – end quote –
There’s more, but that’s plenty, plenty, to illustrate the point.
Mormonism teaches that the Catholic Church became apostate at the end of the first century, or no later than the Council of Nicaea (A.D. 325). They call it “the Great Apostasy.” There is no evidence of this, but Mormons nevertheless claim that the LDS Church founded by the “glass looker” Joseph Smith in 1830 – not the Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ in A.D. 33 – is Christ’s True Church.
Now, after their founder, Joseph Smith, called the Catholic Church “the great abomination, the church of the Devil, the great whore, the whore of all the earth, the destroyer of the Bible,” etc., in their “scripture,” the Mormons want to play nice – it suits their agenda.
Jim Dandy
