As a consequence for the fall, women have to have pain in childbirth and men have to toil in the fields, so see childbirth is only as hard as a good day farming.
Since I am a stay at home dad and my wife is a plant scientist. We often joke that I got the best deal ever. She has childbirth AND toils in the field.
Quoting myself.
Love and sacrifice does not go by gender. Women too will die for their loved ones.
For future reference, āwhomā is the objective use of āwho,ā so you should have used āwhoā since it is the subject of āis.āOh yes? "ā¦not as bad as female circumcisionā¦ "eh? Hmmmmmmā¦ just whom is really insisting on being a victim here eh?
As a male, I can. I cannot remember a moment of it, so the pain may as well be zero.
Freud is not a legitimate scholar; most of his theories have been completely debunked.
There was no ad hominem, so I do not know why you mentioned that. Do you know what it means? The point was supported with no reference to you.
Yeah, but it does not reside there, so your point is irrelevant.
Male circumcision is also practiced in First-World countries. Female circumcision is practiced exclusively in Third-World countries, and is still less sanitary and clandestine than male circumcision in those environments.
I disagree. There is no fixed rule. Two religious parents could have a child who becomes an atheist, the children remain religious because of their mother, not their ultra strict religious father. Seen those two sets of circumstances.
Read what Blessed JPII had to say about this. I am sure he did not muck this up.The Scriptures hath Spoken! Well done.It** is** just as clear as this.
Secularists and radical Feminists that want to muck this up would be better served to
listen to itt rather than change it.
Underlining mine. Ok. lets look closely at just what is wrong with this statement. 1) If Female circumcison is practiced exclusively , as you say in third World countries then I would believe it logically follows that Female circumcision is less practiced than male Circumcison as male circumcision is practiced in third world countries and rampantly in the western world as wellā¦ yes? Not that majority of the crime of circumcison lesssens the atrocity of it allā¦ Who ( whom?For future reference, āwhomā is the objective use of āwho,ā so you should have used āwhoā since it is the subject of āis.ā
Nimzovik Responds in Bold
Silly me! I always fing it amusing and revealing** when the opposition attacks my posting/english techniques rather than the actual content. I am surprised you did not add āneener neeener neenerā
As a male, I can. I cannot remember a moment of it, so the pain may as well be zero.
Is your experience Universal? See here: youtube.com/watch?v=T30DGBTUCWM
Freud is not a legitimate scholar; most of his theories have been completely debunked.
Good Heavens.The theories of āThe Father of Modern Psychiatryā are just totally pointless - eh? Because you say so eh?
There was no ad hominem, so I do not know why you mentioned that. Do you know what it means? The point was supported with no reference to you.
**Actually - yes- there was indeed ad hominen. The poster that I responded to called down the 'Angels of contemporary thinking" to rebute my assertions so to speak. The assertions were not buttressed by objective thinking with attending statistics. **
Yeah, but it does not reside there, so your point is irrelevant.
**Oh yes? Because *you ***say so? Prove it. You can not. Ergo your point is - how did you put it? Irrelevant. See above link.
You also ignore the glaring facts that āa circumcised man can still feel sexual pleasure and experience an orgasmā¦ Female circumcision is done on teens in filthy environments without any painkiller. Infection and death are not uncommon.ā
**Au contraire again. I did indeed address the issue of infection. As for the pleasure factor, I simply assert that is not the *defining ***characteristic of the issue. Sheeesh. However, regarding the pleasure issues I once again refer you to the above link.
Male circumcision is also practiced in First-World countries. Female circumcision is practiced exclusively in Third-World countries, and is still less sanitary and clandestine than male circumcision in those environments.
) or which sex suffers more frequently is just moot as for as far s I am concerned.Bolding mine.
You think JPII would side with Radical (the term I used in my post) Feminists eh? Heh heh hehā¦I really enjoy these rants of yours. The last time we argued you told me that the speaker of the house and the senate majority leader were women. Now you are saying that Freud is a legitimate source. This only makes you and your points look bad.Underlining mine. Ok. lets look closely at just what is wrong with this statement. 1) If Female circumcison is practiced exclusively , as you say in third World countries then I would believe it logically follows that Female circumcision is less practiced than male Circumcison as male circumcision is practiced in third world countries and rampantly in the western world as wellā¦ yes? Not that majority of the crime of circumcison lesssens the atrocity of it allā¦ Who ( whom?
2) The sanitary issue does indded occur to men as well. This what I am saying.
I do indeed assert that the Female corresponding issue of Genital Mutilation is heinous. That does not take away from the Male issue. I reiterate. Presenting Male issues does not equate automatically to devaluing Female issues. Shheeeeesh:shrug:
Thank you for this oppurtunity to raise the Social Consciousness of these Male also** issues.
Enough of the sidebar. Shall we return to the topic?
Oh yes? When one posts a perspective that differs from your opinion, you call it a *rant *eh? Revealingā¦ hmmmmmmmā¦
Yes, I suppose it is nescessary for you to endeavor to devalue Frueds contributions to modern Psychoanalysis.
See here: crystalinks.com/freud.html
Methinks Freud has published far more respectable papers dealing with the human psyche thanā¦ you haveā¦
Nuff said.
Now can we get back to theā¦ ahemā¦topic?
I think that the funniest part of all of this is that your link explains his theories and honors his legacyā¦while making clear that most of his theories have been proven false and cast aside. He, like all pioneers of specific fields inspired others, looked at things in a new way, and formed the beginnings of a whole new way of study. But just like early astronomers were wrong about the earthās position in the galaxy, Freud was wrong about a lot of his claims too. Thatās just the nature of of being a founder.Oh yes? When one posts a perspective that differs from your opinion, you call it a *rant *eh?
Yes, I suppose it is nescessary for you to endeavor to devalue Frueds contributions to modern Psychoanalysis.
See here: crystalinks.com/freud.html
Methinks Freud has published far more respectable papers dealing with the human psyche thanā¦ you haveā¦
Nuff said.
Now can we get back to theā¦ ahemā¦topic?
I think that this thing is overblown because if there was a way to simulate the feeling of being kicked in the groin for women, it would be done as a publicity stunt as well.Nimzovik, I have to agree with BEL, sure, some people still look on Freud as a legitimate authority, but you can find people who truly think that Aliens built the pyramids. His reseatch has been discredited.
But, since youāve asked so nicely to go back to the topic I believe I will.
Honestly, I think the tone of the video is definitely a little anti-male, but its not really that big of a deal, as others have said its just a stupid stunt pulled for tv ratings. Iām ssure people could start pulling all sorts of examples that are disrespectful to both women and men from tv if they wanted to, but as others have said, we two gender need to stop fighting with each other to see who is most disrespected and instead work on caring just as much about the opposite gender as our own.
Freud isnāt completely disregarded. Psychologists still accept some of his ideas, but a lot of what he said is rejected. many psychologists would be considered Freudian.
Only in method. The stream of conciousness, sit back on the couch and let it out for analysis is one thing. But no one is concerned about the stages of psychosexual development, Oedipus complexes, and the fear that little boys have of being castrated like women are.
His defense mechanisms arenāt rejected though. And as you pointed out, psychoanalysis is still used. Like I said, some things are rejected but others arenāt.
