End Times Speculation XXIII (ver. 2.0)

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Blimp said:
As to your speculations about nuclear war, dear @undead_rat it seems you may be right. “ Hurricanes of fire will pour forth from the clouds and spread over the entire earth! ” either this or some cosmic cataclysmic event.
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Eruption from a super volcano or impact from a massive asteroid would also cause atmospheric changes that could precipitate into violent weather patterns.

What’s interesting is how the many mystics lived in different times and or locations. I assume these mystics were unaware of the others and similar prophecy.
 
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I recommend keeping in mind Genesis 8:21 where YHWH promises that He will never again attempt to exterminate the human race. That passage seems to preclude the mechanism of anything that could be interpreted as “an act of God.” The first century Church fathers did not take this passage into account when they postulated that Judgement Day was very near, and who can blame them? How could they have imagined that humans would invent and deploy the means to carry out the earth’s destruction by fire.
 
undead_rat said:
I recommend keeping in mind Genesis 8:21 where YHWH promises that He will never again attempt to exterminate the human race.
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Not quite. He promises not to try to destroy the world by flood again.

Now, I KNOW He won’t try to exterminate us all, because if He did, He’d be unfaithful to Himself and tacitly admitting that the Evil One was right, that He should not have created humans. It is His goal now to admit as many of us as will follow Him into His presence for all eternity. Mass destruction might make that difficult.
 
I am more inclined to think the 3 days of darkness will be the result of an asteroid impact or a super volcanic eruption. Even if a rogue country detonated one, two or three nuclear ☢️, I firmly believe all humanity would pause and retreat rather than retaliate.

The description of the 3 day event seems much more catastrophic and beyond human assertions.
 
Muzhik said:
Not quite. He promises not to try to destroy the world by flood again.
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That is Gen 9:11. I referred to Gen 8:21. There is a difference.

Mass destruction is exactly what is predicted by the OT prophets.
 
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I will not discuss this any further.
My speculation is correct and not requiring any measure of luck.
I do not believe in luck.
 
Donkey said:
I am more inclined to think the 3 days of darkness will be the result of an asteroid impact or a super volcanic eruption.
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I am more inclined to think of the Three Days of Darkness as being a completely supernatural event. I understand the desire to place these things into the corporeal world where they can be explained, but you also have to remember: anything divine that you can explain as “G_D used these natural laws to create this effect” can also be UNEXPLAINED by falling back on natural laws. I remember in the Rapture/Horror movie “The Remaining” where the Rapture involved taking the souls of people leaving dead bodies behind, the scientists who remained tried to explain what had happened by calling the event “Sudden Death Syndrome.” I believe G_D will cause this darkness (and the accompanying release of demons across the world) in a way that CANNOT be explained naturally. This will force all them-there smart fellers to face up to the fact that they’re not as smart as they think they are, and to confront their own mortality.
 
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Muzhik said:
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Donkey:
I am more inclined to think the 3 days of darkness will be the result of an asteroid impact or a super volcanic eruption.
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I am more inclined to think of the Three Days of Darkness as being a completely supernatural event.
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That then would qualify the event as a “sign.” But we have this promise: “No sign will be given except the Sign of Jonah.”
 
Muzhik said:
You might be interested in reading this blog entry by Emmett O’Regan, “The Sign of Jonah and the Binding of Satan” Unveiling the Apocalypse: The Sign of Jonah and the Binding of Satan
Long-ish but worthwhile.
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That is quite an article, full of amazing detailed information. I printed it out, TY.

My comment would be that O’Regan fails to make the connection between the miraculous Image on the Shroud of Turin and the Sign of Jonah of Matt 12:39-41.
To be fair, no other scholars that I am aware of make this connection.
Kowalsky even states that the Sign of Jonah in Matthew’s Gospel will “remain an enigma.” (pg. 19):


The Sign of Jonah in Matthew must meet the following criteria:
  1. It must be a distinctive sign or miracle which undeniably confirms that Rabbi Yehoshua is the Jewish Messiah. That is what His contemporaries were asking for when they demanded a “sign” from Him.
  2. Rabbi Yehoshua mentioned “a” generation, therefore not specifying either first or twentieth century, but promising that His sign would be available to the whole world at some point.
  3. The sign will be closely associated with His death and burial. Resurrection is not mentioned in Matt 12:39-41.
The miracle of the Rabbi’s death and burial is, of course, the vanishing of His corpse from the inside of a sealed tomb. I find it instructive that this vanishing is definitively described also in Matthew’s Gospel. But only a few were able to witness the Angel role away the stone and then immediately inspect the inside of the tomb. Something further is needed to make that miracle available to a “generation.” In my opinion, that “something” is our Lord’s bloody burial cloth, the miraculous image of His corpse that it bears, and its carbon fourteen enhancement which proves that a neutron radiation event took place. This “sign” is available to the whole world, alas for the skeptics…
 
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Blimp said:
Ok, so this is what dear Blessed Anna-Maria Taigi stated in regards to the Three Days of Darkness Chastisement:
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My biggest problem with this quote is that Blessed Anna-Maria Taigi lived from 1769 until 1837. “The Pill” wasn’t available until around 1960. So how did she say …no more “career women” addicted to the “pill”?

I’m not saying it’s impossible. It might be one of those things that confirms the veracity of the text, much like the Israelite priests in captivity were able to show Cyrus how the prophet Jeremiah named him as the one who would free the Israelites about 200 years before Cyrus was born. Still, I’d like to go back a few years, say, 100, and see if the text changed over time.
 
Something came to me recently, it has been more than 40 Jubilees since the Incarnation of Christ JESUS. At 10, was the destruction of Rome.
At 20, was the great Schism. At 30, was immense division of The Church, mostly because of a class warfare or ‘social justice’ response to the abuses with Protestantism.
We are definitely at a crux in history.
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We must understand that Biblical prophesy repeats. For example, Dr. Scott Hahn speaks of GOD allowing the destruction of Jerusalem as a ‘mini’ Apocalypse. (The Messiah and this prophesied by Daniel, over 500 years(10 Jubilees) before it happened. I learned from Fr. Pacwa on EWTN, he world is in a similar state, taken as a whole, as The Roman Empire which claimed Pax Romana - Roman Peace. They claimed this because there was no major war. With WWI, WWII, the bloody proxy wars Cold War conflicts have ended. However, the propaganda war heated up after the end of the cold war. Radical secularism with its exalting humanism, and/or naturalism, and/or indifferentism(all religions are the same) - have in a huge way exalting many things, such as a form of Godliness denying the Power of God to form sincere Godliness along side emotional justification of pleasure seeking over love of GOD and GOD’s Ways.
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I don’t know if we The Remnant of God; (who joyfully by Grace in self giving in Jesus Beloved Christ Redeemer - whose main purpose is to testify the true Mercy He has for repentance); will live to see The Triumph of The Church, as members of the Pilgrim Church on earth; but the tears JESUS shares with us in thirsting for souls will not be in vain. GOD is on His Thrown Leading us, The Joy of The Lord is our strength.
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(The Lord Jesus is always Coming, revivals, many times are at times of strong delusion - whereby humanity deludes itself in Providence.) One Day, He Will Come with all His Angels, as we wait in joyful hope.
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“Therefore God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false, so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth. To this he called you through our gospel, so that you may obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.
Now may our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God our Father, who loved us and gave us eternal comfort and good hope through grace, comfort your hearts and establish them in every good work and word.” - 2 Thessalonians 2:11-17
 
Gripper said:
How can one be Pope without being canonically elected?
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Through a flaw or defect in the process of the election. Two examples:
  1. If, in fact, there was/is a St. Gellen Cabal (a group of cardinal electors who met at the St. Gellen ski resort to plan how to influence the papal election) and if they did in fact conspire ahead of time to elect Pope Francis, they violated the law concerning the election of the Pope, invalidating the election. Note that Francis did not have to be a participant or have knowledge of this conspiracy for it to invalidate his election.
  2. If just before the next papal election, there is civil unrest in Rome to the extent that a quorum of cardinals cannot enter Vatican City before the end of the 20th day after the death of the old Pope, a valid papal election CANNOT be held. If one is held anyway, the winner becomes a Pope who is not canonically elected.
 
undead_rat said:
If we had a real world government that could force the dismantlement of all nuclear weapons, humanity would not be facing its imminent destruction in the 21st century.
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Sounds like potential AntiChrist …

Thing is… We know there shall never be a permanent man-made Peace …
 
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