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Hello Lev23,

No, this (below) sums up this thread and I am still waiting for the “End-Times” people to show themselves.

The lack of response here, speaks volumes, because many here know that all this “End-Times Prediction” business is something, which is popular in many Protestant, non-Catholic Christian denominations today.

This lack of response and any clear defense of the “End-Times” industry, a multi-million dollar business, which makes a profit “predicting”, “End-Times”, show’s me that many of these people here, know deep down that this behavior is wrong and they know that it is also wrong to manipulate and exploit Christianity in such a way, which is wrong and for some… the motive is personal gain, personal fame and financial profit.

Now, having said that, here are the questions posed in this thread:
  1. Do you believe that Protestants who are involved in, “End-Times” and “End-Time predictions” are technically – “Fortune Tellers”?
If not, then why not?

2**. Do you believe that these same Protestants are the forbidden “Soothsayers”?**

If not, then why not?
  1. **Do you believe that these same Protestants are, by their actions, the forbidden “False Prophets”, mentioned in the Bible? **
If not, then why not?
  1. Do you believe that these same Protestants are, by their actions, where they are “predicting end-times”, involved in a behavior, which falls under a form of “witchcraft”?
If not, then why not?

Finally, End-Time predictions and the multi-million dollar business in which it has become, provides, just another example of why the Protestant, non-Catholic Christian belief in “personal interpretation” of the Bible is an errant belief and it has been a disaster for Christianity.

I believe that part of the reason why there is a “lack of response” here, is because many here would then have to admit that the root of this problem can be found in “personal interpretation” of the Bible, an errant non-Catholic, Protestant, anti-Biblical and anti-Christian belief.

Thank you for your post, your thioughts?
 
“End-Times Prediction” business
  1. **Do you believe that Protestants who are involved in, “End-Times” and “End-Time predictions” are technically – “Fortune Tellers”
Finally, End-Time predictions and the multi-million dollar business in which it has become, provides, just another example of why the Protestant, non-Catholic Christian belief in “personal interpretation” of the Bible is an errant belief and it has been a disaster for Christianity. **…You are right about it being a big bussiness, look at all the tabloid[gosip] papers and mags. and tele-evanglists ,drama,fear,news,1/2 truths sell,cute saving the kitty stories do not sell. I am sure you would rather read about Chief crooked toes [a visionary of the turkey wing warriors of the northsoutheast obbewhann nation]
on how he saw russia invade georgia and that brought the anti-christ to power to usher in the endtimes.[ohhh no did I just scoop all the news papers?remember you saw it here first on CAF]and look at all the survivial co’s selling thier wares.
 
Jimmy B and Celticcrusader: You guys have hit the nail on the head when you state that the “End Times” spindoctors are in it for the Money!

Before I was finally lead (praise God) to Catholicism I was quite caught up in all that “End Times” banter. I remember reading “Late Great Planet Earth” back in the 70’s when I was a teenager, and that’s where it all began. Book after book after that, and then eventually I started listening to the wackos on Shortwave radio. I’ll admit that much of what they have to say sounds convincing, and there certainly are quite a few world events over the past century which may strongly lead us to believe that Christ’s return is imminent… but I have 3 problems with these self-styled prophets:

Firstly, most (but not all) are primarily interested in creating an interest in THEIR books, tapes and other products. The “post-trib rapture” advocates are the worst because they constantly plug products like radiation detectors, “Big Berky” water filters, potassium iodate tablets, colloidal silver supplies, etc. The so-called “Bible study” section of the program is simply geared to scare you into “realizing” the “need” for their products!!!

Secondly, it’s virtually impossible to find a time in history when some people haven’t been forecasting the imminent Return of Christ! I’ve heard that there was great popular expectation for this to occur in the year 1000, during the reformation (1520’s), during the English Civil War (1640’s), in America during the 1840’s, again around 1917, not to mention numerous times over the last few decades! Now we have Harold Camping “convinced” it will be in 2011. Fool me once, shame on you…

Lastly, I personally believe that Christ’ “return” is as close as your last hearbeat! All that you, OR ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS EVER LIVED IN HISTORY, can ever do to prepare for this event MUST BE DONE RIGHT HERE AND NOW. So why even bother speculating about this event in the fiorst place? The gospel is clear: we must live each day as though it may be THE LAST. With that in mind I say let’s IGNORE these opportunist speculators and focus on CHRIST and His CHURCH.

By the way, just a side note here… but it was by hearing the calm (recorded) voice of Mother Angelica (on EWTN shortwave) amidst all of the screaming doomsayers… that finally lead me home to Catholicism.
 
Hello Lev23,

No, this (below) sums up this thread and I am still waiting for the “End-Times” people to show themselves.

The lack of response here, speaks volumes, because many here know that all this “End-Times Prediction” business is something, which is popular in many Protestant, non-Catholic Christian denominations today.

This lack of response and any clear defense of the “End-Times” industry, a multi-million dollar business, which makes a profit “predicting”, “End-Times”, show’s me that many of these people here, know deep down that this behavior is wrong and they know that it is also wrong to manipulate and exploit Christianity in such a way, which is wrong and for some… the motive is personal gain, personal fame and financial profit.

Now, having said that, here are the questions posed in this thread:
  1. Do you believe that Protestants who are involved in, “End-Times” and “End-Time predictions” are technically – “Fortune Tellers”?
If not, then why not?

2**. Do you believe that these same Protestants are the forbidden “Soothsayers”?**

If not, then why not?
  1. **Do you believe that these same Protestants are, by their actions, the forbidden “False Prophets”, mentioned in the Bible? **
If not, then why not?
  1. Do you believe that these same Protestants are, by their actions, where they are “predicting end-times”, involved in a behavior, which falls under a form of “witchcraft”?
If not, then why not?

Finally, End-Time predictions and the multi-million dollar business in which it has become, provides, just another example of why the Protestant, non-Catholic Christian belief in “personal interpretation” of the Bible is an errant belief and it has been a disaster for Christianity.

I believe that part of the reason why there is a “lack of response” here, is because many here would then have to admit that the root of this problem can be found in “personal interpretation” of the Bible, an errant non-Catholic, Protestant, anti-Biblical and anti-Christian belief.

Thank you for your post, your thioughts?
I guess you could call me a Catholic who believes in the truth of these End Times prophecies. I’ll try to answer those questions you posed as best I can, but I am by no means an “expert” on any of this.
  1. Do you believe that Protestants who are involved in, “End-Times” and “End-Time predictions” are technically – “Fortune Tellers”?
    These people are not “fortune-tellers”, they are simply people who study prophecy and look for the fulfillment of these prophecies in the events that have taken place, are taking place, and will take place. We know how this ends–Christ comes again. Because I have said this, am I a fortune-teller? No, because this is plainly stated in the Bible. Date-setters = bad. I will always and forever believe that date-setters are wrong because Christ says that we will not know the day or hour of his return; some say “well we can know the month or year, right?” Wrong. We can know the “season”, or roughly the time-period/generation of Christ’s return. Christ tells us to be watchers and keep an eye on events in the world to signal us that his return is very close.
  2. Do you believe that these same Protestants are the forbidden “Soothsayers”?
    Again, I do not believe it is correct to use this term to describe those who are excited about Christ’s return and studying prophecy related to it. One solid belief these people must keep in mind is that we don’t know exactly when; all we can try to determine is the season. Most people who study eschatology agree that we are in the season of Christ’s return. Don’t broaden this term; we have not been “in the season” since Christ’s resurrection; prophecies given by God and written down in the Bible needed and still need to be fulfilled; certain events needed and still need to take place. Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying that man is in control of Christ’s return; God is behind all of these events taking place. He is in control.
  3. Do you believe that these same Protestants are, by their actions, the forbidden “False Prophets”, mentioned in the Bible?
    Again, no. These Protestants believe that the false prophets being mentioned are the date-setters and those that put on big shows of healing people “in the name of God” for their own prophet and those who deliberately deceive others because the say they “know for certain” when Christ is coming due to “a vision of God” just because they want money. There are honest people out there who are just studying Scripture. When I was studying this, I stayed away from buying any products related to this topic; I rented books from the library and spent time on “End Times” message boards, trying to wrap my head around these beliefs. You need to go into this head with the armor of God on and an objective, clear head. I can see how easy it would be to get caught up in it all and believe a date-setter, but you can’t do that. You also can’t flock to someone who claims to heal people in the name of God, but does it on television and makes DVD’s of it and sells them for a prophet. Jesus did not behave that way: he even would tell some of the people he healed to “never speak of this” because Christ was humble when he healed.
  4. Do you believe that these same Protestants are, by their actions, where they are “predicting end-times”, involved in a behavior, which falls under a form of “witchcraft”?
:confused: I’m not sure why the study of eschatology is considered witchcraft; I’ve actually never heard of it referred to as such, as incredible as that might be. Maybe studying the skies is considered witchcraft? I don’t know. The Bible does tell us to look for signs in the heavens, which is why people pay some attention to evens like eclipses, but it isn’t really the main focus of eschatology. Please shed some light on this for me.
  1. Finally, End-Time predictions and the multi-million dollar business in which it has become, provides, just another example of why the Protestant, non-Catholic Christian belief in “personal interpretation” of the Bible is an errant belief and it has been a disaster for Christianity.
I know this isn’t a question, but when people continue to say this over and over, it is something I feel the need to respond to. “Personal interpretation” is not what is going on here. They are literally interpreting Scripture. And the statement that people are only into this to make a profit does not encompass the majority of people who believe in the End Times prophecy; they are just avid readers who are excited about Christ’s return and they spend time with each other studying and sharing what they learn. Yes, some people do make money selling books on the subject, but that is only one way to spread knowledge about it. There are millions of sources online that are free and just as helpful or more helpful than any book you can find. Do Catholics not also write books? Do they not also spread knowledge about the RCC through books? Movies? Documentaries? Recorded sermons? Magazines? TV programs? These are ways to teach people, and it is a way to reach out to unbelievers who are confused and looking for something to fill that void they can’t seem to fill; it is a way to introduce them to God.

These are my thoughts and what I have learned and what I believe. I hope I explained things a bit better?

God Bless,
Katy 🙂
 
I know this isn’t a question, but when people continue to say this over and over, it is something I feel the need to respond to. “Personal interpretation” is not what is going on here. They are literally interpreting Scripture. God Bless,
Katy 🙂
Hello Katia0203,

Nice post…thank you!

One question; what do you mean by,

“Personal interpretation” is not what is going on here. They are literally interpreting Scripture."
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God Bless you too! 🙂
 
Now we have Harold Camping “convinced” it will be in 2011. …
AngloCatholic1: nice post , Harold Camping did not check with all the other predictors of end times from ancient times to present,. his math is off by a year. every one else says 2012. any way I like Harold, if I am having a bad day and need a little humor I listen to him. I find his theology is pretty amusing.But it is sad so many [if not all] of his followers[cult?] buy what he says hook,line&sinker,and you can not tell them any different.
 
Hello Katia0203,

Nice post…thank you!

One question; what do you mean by,

“Personal interpretation” is not what is going on here. They are literally interpreting Scripture."
**
God Bless you too! 🙂
What I mean is that some people believe that they are twisting and mutilating Scripture to fit their End Times scenario, but I believe they are just taking Scripture at face value 🙂
 
I will allow katia’s words to temper my thoughts on this. I believe most folks who get ‘caught up’ in applying prophetic literature to current events and then projecting an outcome accordingly are just what katia says. They are practicing their faith as it is known to them. They are using it as a reason to gather together in fellowship. Being that they are, for the most part, christian communities sincerely seeking Christ this can’t be all bad.

OTOH, I believe externalizing the prophetic texts is a diabolic distraction that places a barrier between the Lord and the heart of the believer.

When the believer is walking the walk and becomes the one who keeps the message, when the prophetic word has been internalized, when their world is responding to them as an enemy for no reason, when Christ is sharing His life with them, then they’re fit to externalize the meaning of the words, and even then only with methods that safeguard them from putting faith in their own vision.

That is the source of the spirit of prophecy within St Paul, St Peter and the best example for me St Stephen, who’s life events and final words duplicated Our Lord’s. He walked with Jesus all the way to the cross and ‘then’ he saw the Son of Man coming on the clouds.
 
I guess here’s my deal: if the Rapture happens, it happens. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t. If all of us are wrong and God throws this amazing curveball at us and surprises us all, I won’t mind one bit. God’s got His own plan and nothing we say or do is gonna change it. 🙂
 
But the TYPICAL, Western Catholic approach to the apocalypse is equally useless.

It is Enlightenment-style scientific rationalist approach to the apocalypse that has created useless extremes: for Fundamentalists, it is about the playout of nations in WWIII and where the earthquakes occur. For the liberals, who have led astray modern Catholic thought, the book is nothing more than exaggerated codes for the crisis that the Church was dealing with during its authorship.

If this was the sacred author’s intent, why didn’t the ECFs look at this way?

ECFs are mystics, they perceive profound spiritual mysteries from the text, and they have the humility to realize that eventually the Church shall unravel the deeper implications of the literature.

In the foreward to Father Kramer’s book, the Book of Destiny, it cites that many Fathers of the Church have prophesied that toward the last days, men [obviously Catholics] shall give astounding interpretations that enable the book’s mystery to be unlocked.

But the key is understanding that the meaning of Salvation history does not directly involve individual nations and kingdoms and temporal problems. It is a struggle between sin and grace, the spiritual conditions that the world passes through, the stages of the People of God’s relationship to the world around it.

That is the stuff of the apocalypse.

So then, read below how an orthodox Catholic would look at some of the imagery:
Evangelicals ask “what are the two horns?” And they think it is usually nations or divisions within a nation that the literal anti-john-the-baptist figure will rule in the very end of the world.

Catholics usually don’t care what the two horns are.

Then there are Catholics that are mystics, who see profound possibilities in the apocalypse, who do not wave their hands and dismiss great imagery.

The ECFs prophesied that in the Last Days, men shall give astounding interpretations of the apocalypse.

Let us return to the two horns of the false prophet.

If we are to be mystical, we must admit that even if there will be a literal false prophet at the end of the world, what does it matter whether he is the governor of 2 nations or 23 nations? That is meaningless information.

But I will show you a better way, the way of the mystics. The two horns are like a Lamb, who has seven.

Horns are biblical symbols of power. Where does Christ exercise His power, and WHY does He use His power? Christ uses His power to redeem, and the redemption is wrought through grace, and in Catholicism, there are seven primary sources of sanctifying grace, unlike any other: the Sacraments!

Tertullian taught that the devil plagiarizes the sacraments. He takes what is good and beautiful and twists it diabolically into a lie.

Which two sacraments would the dragon twist, so as to proclaim the supreme lie?

I say the answer follows intrinsically from the Catholic theology: In Catholic theology, heretics retain only two sacraments, baptism and marriage.

Heresy means to take, and leave behind what you don’t want.

The two sacraments that the dragon would mock would need to form a SUMMARY of all iniquity, to be the supreme base lies from which all other lies flow.

I say these two lies are precisely the twisting of the base sacraments of heretics, so as to make them the “ultimate heresy.”

And how?

There are in the end, two things that determine all religion:

I. God
II. the Creation

A just man must have the right relationship with respect to both in order to be saved.

In relation to God, the person must seek Divine Truth, the Divine Will, and help from the Divine to find and live these as his supreme goal in order to be saved. This disposition is none other than the disposition implicit in baptism or the desire thereof, without which man cannot be saved (Trent, dogma.)

Hence, the first lie is anti-Baptism: have NO concern for Divine Truth, nor the Divine Will, nor assistance or revelation from the Divine.

This would be the first horn.

The second horn pertains to the creation.

What is mortal sin? Mortal sin is preferring a created good to the uncreated good which is God. IOW, mortal sin is saying I would rather have the creation instead of God.

The second disposition of the just man is then about the creation. It implies the first disposition implicit in Baptism. For since the creature seeks the Divine Will and truth above all else, he must approach the creation from the standpoint of the just, which is to say, he understands that the creation is but an ICON to God, and NOT the final end. He understands that his final goal is love with God and not something in the creation. He sees the creation as containing symbols of mysteries meant to teach him of God and His truth. All the just have this disposition. This disposition is called SACRAMENTALITY: the creation and things therein is a sign post to God, catechetical, imparting Divine Mysteries.

 
Therefore, the just man RECEIVES the creation from God as a gift and seeks to use the creation according to the Divine Order, and understands that it is not the final end, but only points to the final end, which is God himself. Therefore, in some sense, the just man understands that his final destiny is to MARRY God, and not the creation. This is why marriage, taught JPII, is the prototype sacrament, the sacrament that conveys the supreme sign of all creation: for just as man and woman are called to offer themselves totally to one another, penetrating and immersing one another in the total sense, physically and spriritually, so our ultimate destiny is to do this with God: in the end, God shall give His whole Divine Being, all Three Persons, to us in total love, penetrating us with His truth and grace, and we will fully receive Him and offer ourselves back totally in love, forever. An unending spiritual orgasm. Hence, the supreme metaphor of the meaning of existence in Scripture is the symbol of the Wedding feast, the marriage between the Lamb and the Woman.

Hence, the Whore shews forth the second lie of the dragon, the total twisting of this greatest of Divine Mysteries, the mockery and debasement of the supreme mystery: those who deny the implicit call of Baptism are in mortal sin already in intellect, and hence, not living for God, they live for the creation.

But they do not marry the creation, for even marriage bears with it the notion of love. The child of the devil, therefore, commits FORNICATION with the Creation, for they seek from it not Divine Mysteries of love that only point to God, but only TAKE from the creation what they can get from it selfishly, for purely brute superficialities and arrogant ambition, and raise the Creation to be the supreme end, even above God.

Therefore, the second lie of the dragon is anti-Marriage, the fornication with the creation as the supreme end of man, in place of the heavenly marriage with God, Infinite Love possessed forever.

These two horns are then the ultimate heresy: anti-Baptism, and anti-Marriage.

Upon these two supreme lies, derives all iniquity that the dragon institutes. These lies SUMMARIZE all spiritual darkness, even better than Catholicism’s seven cardinal sins.


 
let us move on and show the folly of the heretics, who are hypocrites like the pharisees.

These hypocrites, like Lindsay, say, see the EU has ten subdivisions, therefore, it could be the beast.

And what is their folly? Look at this way, hypocrites. The Lamb has seven horns and the false prophet has two.

So then, there could just as soon be a wicked ruler who rules seven kingdoms, and a wise and just ruler who is an evangelical Christian who rules two nations. And would that prove that the evangelical is neverthelss the false prophet, and that the wicked man is the Christ?

You fools, if modern Europe retained its Christian roots and didn’t scoff at the Gospel, and they lived in harmony with Christ, would the EU still be the beast, simply because it has ten subdivisions?

For in antiquity, Rome was an empire and it was wicked in paganism, and in the Middle Ages, there was a Holy Roman Empire, a Christian empire, and now we have an Empire that indeed dwells where the former Empire of antiquity was, and it is also wicked and scofffull towards the Gospel, but is what makes it the beast geography or its wickedness?

Hypocrites!

So then, why, you hypocrites, do you say the beast is ONLY the EU, and not also the whole of the general civs that come from Europe that are likewise in apostasy?

For which is the issue: the geographical nature of a society, or its SPIRITUAL condition? Is it not the spiritual, and that the geography has nothing to do with it?

And so it is that heretics look, but do not see, they listen, but do not hear.

And what is the source of their folly? Is it not that they forget we live in a New Covenant and not the Old? For indeed, in Daniel, the beasts were Gentile kingdoms and the horns were kings of power, yes. And the heads subdivisions of empires, yes.

but that was the Old, and we now live in the New Covenant?

Why do the hypocrites not understand that Daniel foretold temporal kingdoms so as to meet the People Old where they were at? For does not the Old Covenant give them a literal earthly kingdom, so that God must also shew them the literal earthly powers that would rise against them in the times leading up to Messiah?

But the Kingdom of the New Covenant is no longer a literal physical kingdom, a single land. It is a spiritual kingdom that spans the whole earth, and the threats that are truly worth considering are not temporal powers but spiritual depravities.

hence, the Church can never define NT history in terms of temporal kingdoms, because her teachings do not deal with temporal kingdoms. For where do the dogmas of the Church reference France, China, or Algeria?

Nowhere.

but the Church defines her spiritual threats in her dogmas, and phrases them in terms of truth and its sources, and grace and its sources.

hence, the CCC references Islam, and how does Islam relate to the Church?

The Church is not so much concerned about WHERE Islam resides geographically, but rather HOW Islam relates spiritually to the kingdom of Christ. And it is this: Islam is the general religion that takes the Catholic faith and disembowels from it the Trinity and Incarnation utterly, so as to leave the shell of the Gospel: an all powerful God who is only One in Person, who has NOT become one of us so as to suffer for our sins, and who therefore, has sent a mere man whose revelation presumably “surpasses” that of the Christ. IOW, Islam is the religion that most fully attacks the mysteries of God as Triune and Incarnate, and yet retains, more or less, the other elements of the Gospel that remain.

And this is precisely the nature of the threat of Islam that matters: its spiritual deficiencies.

But that it resides in Saudi Arabia, and Iraq, and Iran and Syria, and Libya is not the issue. What matters is its spiritual opposition.

So also, another threat, of a much lesser order, are the schismatics. And what Islamics do with the Trinity and Incarnation, the schismatics do with Peter. Schismatics are then they who rip Peter and his special mediatory authority from the Gospel, and retain, for the most part, everything else. Hence, this is only a minor threat.

And the heretics, how do they relate? They are a much worse threat, for they rip from the Gospel not only Peter, but the whole of the apostolic successors and hence also separate themselves from five of the sacraments. Theirs is a severe deficiency that, having cast aside Apostolic Tradition, they necessarily confound the living hell out of doctrine in attempting to understand Writings that neither belong to them, nor that they will ever understand, precisely because they reject the very Tradition that is needed to understand the Writings that they twist, in many cases, to their own destruction.

As for the infidels of the Enlightenment, they are ALMOST the beast, for they relate to the Church by way of supernatural death: for the deists and rationalists, disillusioned by the scandal of religious confusion and bloodshed in the pursuit of supernatural truth, have cast aside any faith in a God who either intervenes in this world (deism) or who reveals things (rationalists), and are content to admit that there must be a Supreme Being who created the world, but are resolved to delude themselves into thinking the Supreme Being does not need to tell us things of his nature and what we should do, that is, that we can figure this out with our own Reason, and that we can be moral on our own power, apart from Redemption. IOW, the Enlightenment accepts only the natural light of reason, and no more. For this reason, because they cast aside all supernatural sense of religion, they are the supernaturally dead, and remain alive only in a natural sense.

 
And the apostates of today? Well go back and read about the two horns. the apostates of today have cast aside all light, even the natural (that at least the Enlightenment infidels accept). They are the children of utter darkness, who bear, unless they repent, the mark of the beast.

So then, how should we view the trumpets? As literal environmental calamities and other literal woes, or rather a symbol of this gradual spiritual digression, that harms all but those with the Seal, that is, faithful Catholics, who, because they have the fullness of truth and are faithful to it, shall be able to weather the storm, the storm of SPIRITUAL assault.
 
Hello Steven,

Here is some information on the Left Behind series, also here and here.

This stuff has been around for many decades now and has made millions, so somebody is buying this material, yet when asked here…the silence is deafening… If people hold these beliefs then they should be willing and able to defend them…right?
As someone who’s read the Left Behind series, I’m happy to take a shot at this. The Left Behind series should be taken at face value for what it is: an imagining of the end times constructed in way that tries to be consistent with the prophecies about the end times, primarily as found in the book of Revelation. It’s not intended as a divinely inspired work or as inerrant interpretation of scripture, nor have I see it anywhere claimed as such.

What it is is a way of making the idea of the end times more accessible to people and hopefully making them think about it and seek to learn more through better sources like the Bible itself. In that regard of accessibility I think of the books as much like the stained glass of medieval cathedrals: telling Biblical stories to the masses who did not have access to scripture.

Neither of us can look into the hearts of the authors, but it is my belief that in this particular series the authors were well intentioned and hoped to get a group of people to read these books and consider where they’d stand if the world were to end tomorrow, people who might not be willing to step into a church or pick up a Bible.

Now if the series presented itself as a work of scholarship that’d be an entirely different matter, but it doesn’t present itself as such. The Biblical sources from which it is derived are certain, but it never claims to be anything but one possible imagining of those events as far as I’ve seen.

For the larger issue of end times predictions: I haven’t looked into it much, but I’m inclined to agree with what others have said here. It’s clearly an error to try and pin down a timeline for the end times, but I don’t see anything wrong with showing an interest in prophecies that God Himself decided should be put into writing for us to read.
 
As someone who’s read the Left Behind series, I’m happy to take a shot at this. The Left Behind series should be taken at face value for what it is: an imagining of the end times constructed in way that tries to be consistent with the prophecies about the end times, primarily as found in the book of Revelation. It’s not intended as a divinely inspired work or as inerrant interpretation of scripture, nor have I see it anywhere claimed as such.

What it is is a way of making the idea of the end times more accessible to people and hopefully making them think about it and seek to learn more through better sources like the Bible itself. In that regard of accessibility I think of the books as much like the stained glass of medieval cathedrals: telling Biblical stories to the masses who did not have access to scripture.

Neither of us can look into the hearts of the authors, but it is my belief that in this particular series the authors were well intentioned and hoped to get a group of people to read these books and consider where they’d stand if the world were to end tomorrow, people who might not be willing to step into a church or pick up a Bible.

Now if the series presented itself as a work of scholarship that’d be an entirely different matter, but it doesn’t present itself as such. The Biblical sources from which it is derived are certain, but it never claims to be anything but one possible imagining of those events as far as I’ve seen.

For the larger issue of end times predictions: I haven’t looked into it much, but I’m inclined to agree with what others have said here. It’s clearly an error to try and pin down a timeline for the end times, but I don’t see anything wrong with showing an interest in prophecies that God Himself decided should be put into writing for us to read.
As one who has read and seen the videos pertaining to the “Left Behind” scenerio and one who once believed this line of thinking concerning prophecy, let me tell you, the author’s DO believe what they have written and have written what they have written in a effort to convince others of their end time proposals. However, a study of all the scriptures concerning end-time events will show that their premises are fautly at least and at most deceptive and very erroneous.

The biggest misake they make is based on one scripture, in 2 Peter 3:10 "But the day of the Lord will come as at theif in the night;" The Left Behinders stop here and make the claim "See, Jesus comes as a thief and takes away the faithful leaving behind the unrighteous. But if they were to continue reading they would find out what happens when he comes as a thief in the night. "in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." Doesn’t sound like he’s gonna hide the fact that he’s coming to me. It just sounds like it is a surprise when it does happen.

God Bless all
 
END TIMES

Aren’t Protestants who are involved in, “End Times” and ”End Time” predictions, technically – Fortune Tellers?

Are they not the forbidden Soothsayers?

Aren’t they the forbidden "False Prophets?

Doesn’t this fall under a form of witchcraft?

Your Thoughts?
Doesn’t Jimmy B have way to much time on his hands, since he’s able to keep on trolling?
 
The biggest misake they make is based on one scripture, in 2 Peter 3:10 "But the day of the Lord will come as at thief in the night;" The Left Behinders stop here and make the claim "See, Jesus comes as a thief and takes away the faithful leaving behind the unrighteous. But if they were to continue reading they would find out what happens when he comes as a thief in the night. "in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." Doesn’t sound like he’s gonna hide the fact that he’s coming to me. It just sounds like it is a surprise when it does happen.

God Bless all
I recently read an article (which I can’t find right now, of course) which stated that the “thief in the night” was the codeword or nickname for the temple guard who made the late night rounds to make sure the priests weren’t sleeping on the job. (At least one priest had to stay awake to make sure the altar fire remained lit. If the fire went out, they’d have to wait for G_D to send down fire from the heavens to relight it.) If the temple guard found a priest sleeping when he should be watching at his post, the guard would set the priest’s clothes on fire. Puts a different spin on the whole quote, doesn’t it?

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