Enough. I will not be complicit or silent

  • Thread starter Thread starter dvdjs
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
D

dvdjs

Guest
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.471ed156301e

Jeff Flake, a Republican and U.S. senator from Arizona.
How many more disgraceful public feuds with Gold Star families can we witness in silence before we ourselves are disgraced?
Click to expand...
How many more times will we see moral ambiguity in the face of shocking bigotry and shrug it off?

How many more childish insults do we need to see hurled at a hostile foreign power before we acknowledge the senseless danger of it?

How much more damage to our democracy and to the institutions of American liberty do we need to witness in silence before we count ourselves as complicit in that damage?

Nine months of this administration is enough for us to stop pretending that this is somehow normal, and that we are on the verge of some sort of pivot to governing, to stability. Nine months is more than enough for us to say, loudly and clearly: Enough.
 
This is a powerful speech, the content of which has been ironically highlighted by Trump:
Jeff Flake, with an 18% approval rating in Arizona, said “a lot of my colleagues have spoken out.” Really, they just gave me a standing O!
Click to expand...
The meeting with Republican Senators yesterday, outside of Flake and Corker, was a love fest with standing ovations and great ideas for USA!
Click to expand...
The reason Flake and Corker dropped out of the Senate race is very simple, they had zero chance of being elected. Now act so hurt & wounded!
Click to expand...
Once again, Trump needs to start acting like the world leader he has been elected to be. His statements, as said by Flake, are inappropriate and unnecessary.
 
dvdjs said:
It is time to stand up to Trump.
Click to expand...
Who on this planet who opposes Trump has NOT “stood up to him”? We see it daily on CAF, and usually multiple times. And it’s daily in the liberal media as well. How much more does the left require that we hear and read before it feels it has adequately “stood up” to Trump?

And if Flake and Corker have no chance of being re-elected by their constituents, one wonders whether they will perhaps pen “What Happened II” and “What Happened III”.

Possibly, as Lindsay Graham (who has better reason than Flake or Corker to complain) said last night, the better approach is to criticize that which is worthy of criticism in Trump and actually matters, and support that which is worthy of support. Graham, it appears, finds both in the man.
 
Last edited:
I see the Dems trying to use them to their political advantage, shame on them.
 
Ridgerunner said:
the better approach is to criticize that which is worthy of criticism in Trump and actually matters, and support that which is worthy of support. Graham, it appears, finds both in the man.
Click to expand...
Who doesn’t do that?

Even Flake supported in his Senate vote suported the health care legislation supported by Trump.
That vote, according to the same poll that Trump has referred to, cost him support in AZ.

PS you might adjust your post to reflect the reality that you quoted the post, not me.
 
Last edited:
Somebody looks to be posing for a GOPe BBF position or at least a talk show spot.
 
How many Gold Star families invite loud mouthed, political hacks to listen in on their condolence calls from the President?
 
Maybe you could participate in the day of mindless screaming to the heavens that some people are arranging on the anniversary of Trump’s presidential election.

I think it’s appropriate, since 1. Mindless screaming is all that the far left has remaining, since all of their other arguments and conspiracy theories have been shot down, and 2. It’ll make great video and soundbyte reminders of why Trump should be elected again in 2020, if the Dems again trot someone out as hopelessly corrupt and unsuitable for being POTUS as Clinton was.
 
She was a friend of the family and was in the limo with the family waiting for the remains.

What kind of president goes after a widow who just lost her husband? Even if he didn’t mean to come of as harsh, he can apologize and tell her that it wasn’t her intention. It’s extremely simple to admit that your wrong or that you came off differently than you intended.
 
Trump cannot take criticism at all. He happily gives it out, but will not ever admit that he got something wrong, or he’s taken something out of its context.
 
Ridgerunner said:
And if Flake and Corker have no chance of being re-elected by their constituents, one wonders whether they will perhaps pen “What Happened II” and “What Happened III”.
Click to expand...
I noticed that Trump was quick to use the same ad hominem (“can’t be elected dog catcher”) against his detractors (as he always does) rather than address the content of what any of them say.
 
Last edited:
She’s a loud mouthed, political hack who used this family’s grief to promote herself. Calling her scum would be an insult to pond scum.
 
President Trump didn’t “go after a widow who just lost her husband.”

President Trump called her to express the condolences of the nation. That’s a tremendous thing for POTUS to do.

The widow, likely being led by her far leftist representative, latched onto a part of a sentence and decided it was disrespectful. Any person of average intelligence and education can read the transcript of the ENTIRE sentence and understand that POTUS was saying her husband was a HERO because he he knew that his job was dangerous, yet he did it anyway…but yet that’s not what the leftist representative (and her widow constituent) did. Instead they took a partial sentence, and then took it to the media to attack the President.

I am not a Trump supporter, but I am definitely a Trump defender when he is attacked by ridiculous stories like this. It is OBVIOUS to anyone who isn’t filled with far-left hatred for Trump (and anyone with an -R behind their name) that President Trump has a tremendous amount of respect and appreciation for the military. However, if a gold-star widow, or her leftist representative, decides to attack President Trump with ridiculous claims, then stand by, cause he’s going to fight back when accused of something he didn’t do.
 
Wrong. He admitted his locker-room talk was wrong and he apologized for it.
 
When you unintentionally make a woman cry, the correct thing to do is apologize. I’m willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt and say that he simply either misspoke or his tone was off. Trump isn’t very elegant so it is believable. He should still apologize instead of doubling down. It’s not complicated.

ETA: The content of the call is not in question anymore. What they said that Trump said is what he said.
 
Last edited:
Also, I guess folks are fine with John Kelly telling a provable lie about Frederica Wilson.
 
Only after being pressed to do so, however. In his first statement he said “This was locker room banter, a private conversation that took place many years ago. Bill Clinton has said far worse to me on the golf course - not even close. I apologize if anyone was offended”.

My statement stands. Trump cannot take criticism, so he dismissed his words as “locker room banter”. He’s happy to give it out - “Bill Clinton has said far worse”. He didn’t admit he was wrong, he apologised for offending people. He did not do so in the first instance, only when it became apparent that what he had said so far was not good enough.
 
Also, he does not appear to have respect for the military. His statements about John McCain, for one thing, a Vietnam War veteran.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top