Enough. I will not be complicit or silent

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niceatheist said:
How exactly does invoking obviously flawed standards of how a victim is supposed to act while being sexually assaulted serve victims well?
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Those standards were developed through centuries of case decisions and codified into law.

Changing them requires new laws to be written.
 
Theo520 said:
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niceatheist:
How exactly does invoking obviously flawed standards of how a victim is supposed to act while being sexually assaulted serve victims well?
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Those standards were developed through centuries of case decisions and codified into law.

Changing them requires new laws to be written.
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I don’t think there’s a statute that says “If a victim doesn’t actively resist, she wants to be molested.” I agree that centuries of case law have lead to this point, but the solution is pretty simple, people start actually invoking the science of behavior in high stress situations like sexual assault, rather than what amounts to “my granddaddy said that’s how women act.”
 
niceatheist said:
I don’t think there’s a statute that says “If a victim doesn’t actively resist, she wants to be molested.” I agree that centuries of case law have lead to this point, but the solution is pretty simple, people start actually invoking the science of behavior in high stress situations like sexual assault, rather than what amounts to “my granddaddy said that’s how women act.”
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We’ll probably end up with a statute that says you need a signed consent form.
 
Theo520 said:
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niceatheist:
I don’t think there’s a statute that says “If a victim doesn’t actively resist, she wants to be molested.” I agree that centuries of case law have lead to this point, but the solution is pretty simple, people start actually invoking the science of behavior in high stress situations like sexual assault, rather than what amounts to “my granddaddy said that’s how women act.”
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We’ll probably end up with a statute that says you need a signed consent form.
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I think any reasonable person knows when there is consent.
 
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niceatheist:
I think any reasonable person knows when there is consent.
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No, it has changed over the years. We really should be prescriptive on something this important.
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Really? Has it? Maybe for some people. I always knew when I was going too far, and it starts by communicating. You don’t need a form in triplicate, you just actually have to give a darn about the person you’re having the moment with.

One thing is for sure, grabbing peoples’ genitals out of the blue or trying to stick your tongue down their throat when they’re sleeping or mucking around with underage kids is off limits, and if someone is confused about the lack of consent in those cases, then, well, I guess that explains the likes of Weinstein and Franken.
 
I just watched multiple videos yesterday of Biden at swearing in ceremonies. They were entertaining watching how he interacted with women and children, and some he seemed to repeat the same remarks to young children. Very weird. It looked like many felt uncomfortable.
 
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niceatheist said:
This is opposed to the situation where I’m speaking from, where there wasn’t even implied consent,
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But how do you know there wasn’t implied consent, if you weren’t there and there’s no proof to suggest otherwise?
 
Raxus said:
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niceatheist:
This is opposed to the situation where I’m speaking from, where there wasn’t even implied consent,
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But how do you know there wasn’t implied consent, if you weren’t there and there’s no proof to suggest otherwise?
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Well, that’s the underlying problem with prosecuting sexual assaults, and I’m not saying the bar should be lowered as far as evidence, but if the defense is “she didn’t try to gouge his eyes out”, I’m saying that defense should be invalid.
 
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7_Sorrows:
I just watched multiple videos yesterday of Biden at swearing in ceremonies.
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How about multiple links to these multiple videos.
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Try The Dailywire or The Daily Wire - Democrats Silent on Biden’s Creepy Touching

“Joe Biden 2020 a terrible idea in post-Weinstein America”. (Multiple videos in the article)
 
niceatheist said:
well, I guess that explains the likes of Weinstein and Franken.
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I was really giving this a LOT of thought… especially in regards to HOLLYWOOD and all the movies out there… If the “sick-os” are making the movies (and there is more than just one…) NO WONDER that we are barraged with sick and demented, violent, foul languag-ed films and so-called comedy posing under the name of “normal society!”
Also, it seems to have spilled over into society so that society mimics the movies instead of vice versa.
Especially in POLITICS!
 
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