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cjforJesus
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Very nice picture
Here is a great environmental message: Stop buying things that you do not need, recycle as much as you can. Dont litter. Turn off lights when not in use. Use landscaping that does not require lots of watering. Only cook what you are going to eat unless you are willing to freeze it.
Lots of time honored wisdom people have been following for years.
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Tim_D
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Strange that the preeminent Catholic Basilica in the world dedicated to St. Peter the apostle and a place of spiritual pilgrimage for souls seeking union with their God and their Savior would be used as a backdrop for the new “religion” of climate change.
One can only ask, “why?”
One can only ask, “why?”
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GEddie
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Because, whether or not this image is true, the organizational Church is as political as any other human aggregate.
Climate change is the cause du jour.
ICXC NIKA
Climate change is the cause du jour.
ICXC NIKA
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sarah_j
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The image is true, alright … and there’s much more where that came from.
Call me old fashioned, but I find it disrespectful to use the facade of St. Peter’s
as a movie screen.
Cecile the lion? >
https://lifesite-cache.s3.amazonaws...lifesite/Lion_on_StPeters_810_500_55_s_c1.jpg
To quote Dylan: * Is there a hole I can get sick in? *
lifesitenews.com/news/sacrilege-catholic-leaders-react-to-vaticans-climate-change-light-show
Call me old fashioned, but I find it disrespectful to use the facade of St. Peter’s
as a movie screen.
Cecile the lion? >
https://lifesite-cache.s3.amazonaws...lifesite/Lion_on_StPeters_810_500_55_s_c1.jpg
To quote Dylan: * Is there a hole I can get sick in? *
lifesitenews.com/news/sacrilege-catholic-leaders-react-to-vaticans-climate-change-light-show
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sarah_j
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A number of years ago, I visited the Episcopal Cathedral of St. John
the Divine in Manhattan and was shocked and puzzled to see that inside
the church were displayed a giant crystal formation, a statue of a howling wolf,
and other statues which seemed pagan.
Never in my wildest dreams did I ever expect to see the Basilica of St. Peter
used as a movie screen to project photos of lions, monkeys, elephants, etc.
No doubt Greenpeace and Peta are thrilled, but as a Catholic I find it
so disrespectful to use St. Peter’s in this way. Maybe I’m one of those
fundamentalist Catholics.
You can see a slideshow of last night’s Vatican light show by clicking on
the picture of the leopard in this link. There are 35 photos.
nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/St-Peters-Basilica-Vatican-Animal-Light-Show-360993021.html
the Divine in Manhattan and was shocked and puzzled to see that inside
the church were displayed a giant crystal formation, a statue of a howling wolf,
and other statues which seemed pagan.
Never in my wildest dreams did I ever expect to see the Basilica of St. Peter
used as a movie screen to project photos of lions, monkeys, elephants, etc.
No doubt Greenpeace and Peta are thrilled, but as a Catholic I find it
so disrespectful to use St. Peter’s in this way. Maybe I’m one of those
fundamentalist Catholics.
You can see a slideshow of last night’s Vatican light show by clicking on
the picture of the leopard in this link. There are 35 photos.
nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/St-Peters-Basilica-Vatican-Animal-Light-Show-360993021.html
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PTL
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Beats me! I did not expect to see a light show as such. I would think if there is any light show, it would be the theme of Nativity and the Holy Family. I guess we must be prepared for surprise at any time.Strange that the preeminent Catholic Basilica in the world dedicated to St. Peter the apostle and a place of spiritual pilgrimage for souls seeking union with their God and their Savior would be used as a backdrop for the new “religion” of climate change.
One can only ask, “why?”
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LongingSoul
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St Francis of Assisi would have adored that!
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JRRTFAN
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Well the answer is obvious, isn’t it? The 90% of non-practicing Catholics in Europe and the 75% non-practicing Catholics in North America will flock back to the Church after seeing this. Why, I predict that you won’t be able to get a seat at midnight Mass this year. Wanna bet? And it’s all because of these cool light shows! The ship is darn near turned around once cool stuff like this is used. Ask any Evangelical mega-church, works like a champ!Strange that the preeminent Catholic Basilica in the world dedicated to St. Peter the apostle and a place of spiritual pilgrimage for souls seeking union with their God and their Savior would be used as a backdrop for the new “religion” of climate change.
One can only ask, “why?”
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JRRTFAN
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The Nativity? Holy Family? Immaculate Conception? What are these things of which you speak? Lion cubs and zebras and cute little monkeys are much better fodder for contemplation. Concentrate for a moment on the plight of the polar bear! Chilling isn’t it?Beats me! I did not expect to see a light show as such. I would think if there is any light show, it would be the theme of Nativity and the Holy Family. I guess we must be prepared for surprise at any time.
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Tim_D
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Over adoring Christ and the Church? Remember that is was St. Francis who popularized the setting up of Nativity scenes at Christmas time.St Francis of Assisi would have adored that!
Just because St. Francis blessed the animals as part of God’s creation doesn’t mean that he would replace the instruments of the Church with them.
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Tim_D
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Indeed.Beats me! I did not expect to see a light show as such. I would think if there is any light show, it would be the theme of Nativity and the Holy Family. I guess we must be prepared for surprise at any time.
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Justin_Swanton
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As a merely personal reflection, with no intention of trying to convince anybody of anything, I don’t give a toss for environmental issues. Nature is not an immaculate being sullied by the dirty prints of human hands. It is something that was designed from the start to mirror humankind’s fallen nature: possessing beautiful and majestic aspects that give a hint of the nature of the God who created it, but also shot through and through with a brutality and misery that reflects the dark side of Original sin - species preying on other species, living off them as parasites, or even eating their own kind (cannibalism having been recorded in every known species that is not strictly vegetarian).
There never was a golden age when humankind lived in harmony with nature a la Dances with Wolves. Even before we discovered industrial technology we were our own worst enemy besides living uncertain lives in a natural world that could kill us at any moment with disease or a succession of droughts.
Existence on this earth is one problem after another and the solutions to one set of problems usually create a new set all of their own. We aren’t meant to build a kind of pseudo-paradise; we’re meant to improvise and bump along as well as we can whilst working out our salvation, getting ourselves ready for the world that ***really ***matters.
Making the environment a prime issue speaks volumes about the worldview behind it. And it’s futile anyway. Nobody is prepared to abandon the fundamental conveniences of a lifestyle in which he was raised. Who wants to give up the logistical transportation system (necessarily based on petrol and diesel driven trucks since electric motors aren’t nearly powerful enough - cheerio supermarkets). Who want to radically reduce the variety of foods he eats and substantially reduce the amount? Who wants to give up long-distance travel? Hot water? (geysers consume huge percentage of a household’s electricity bill) Computers? (also a big consumer of electricity - bearing in mind that electricity can’t all be generated by HEP dams, windmills and nuclear reactors).
It’s a non-starter. We’re going to bump along with fossil fuels until they run out, then we’re going to wonder what on earth to do next. We’ll probably figure out something, but it will be under dire necessity, not because we suddenly felt noble about the environment.
There never was a golden age when humankind lived in harmony with nature a la Dances with Wolves. Even before we discovered industrial technology we were our own worst enemy besides living uncertain lives in a natural world that could kill us at any moment with disease or a succession of droughts.
Existence on this earth is one problem after another and the solutions to one set of problems usually create a new set all of their own. We aren’t meant to build a kind of pseudo-paradise; we’re meant to improvise and bump along as well as we can whilst working out our salvation, getting ourselves ready for the world that ***really ***matters.
Making the environment a prime issue speaks volumes about the worldview behind it. And it’s futile anyway. Nobody is prepared to abandon the fundamental conveniences of a lifestyle in which he was raised. Who wants to give up the logistical transportation system (necessarily based on petrol and diesel driven trucks since electric motors aren’t nearly powerful enough - cheerio supermarkets). Who want to radically reduce the variety of foods he eats and substantially reduce the amount? Who wants to give up long-distance travel? Hot water? (geysers consume huge percentage of a household’s electricity bill) Computers? (also a big consumer of electricity - bearing in mind that electricity can’t all be generated by HEP dams, windmills and nuclear reactors).
It’s a non-starter. We’re going to bump along with fossil fuels until they run out, then we’re going to wonder what on earth to do next. We’ll probably figure out something, but it will be under dire necessity, not because we suddenly felt noble about the environment.
Mary_Gail_36
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Maybe because God loves all of His creation, and when He told Noah to build the ark, He also told him to save all the animals, two by two?Strange that the preeminent Catholic Basilica in the world dedicated to St. Peter the apostle and a place of spiritual pilgrimage for souls seeking union with their God and their Savior would be used as a backdrop for the new “religion” of climate change.
One can only ask, “why?”
It isn’t a backdrop of a new religion of climate change. It was a display of images of God’s creation.
It was a gift for the Vatican.
The Basilica was darkened because “the show needs moments of preparation to ensure its success,” Archbishop Rino Fisichella, president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting New Evangelization, said at a news conference on Friday. “I can assure everyone that it is a unique event for its genre and for the fact that it is being displayed for the first time on such a significant backdrop.”
“We are grateful for the gift and hope that many people will be able to enjoy it throughout the world,” said the archbishop, whose pontifical council is in charge of overseeing the Jubilee. The event will be streamed online at OurCommonHome.World.
Mary_Gail_36
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It was a brief show, for one evening, given to the Vatican as a gift.Over adoring Christ and the Church? Remember that is was St. Francis who popularized the setting up of Nativity scenes at Christmas time.
Just because St. Francis blessed the animals as part of God’s creation doesn’t mean that he would replace the instruments of the Church with them.
Catholics cannot look at beautiful images of beautiful animals?
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Tim_D
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You cannot deny that in recent times we have seen the issue of the “climate” turned into a new cult that tries to place cute and fuzzy critters on the same level as mankind and even, at times, on a level above mankind.Maybe because God loves all of His creation, and when He told Noah to build the ark, He also told him to save all the animals, two by two?
It isn’t a backdrop of a new religion of climate change. It was a display of images of God’s creation.
It was a gift for the Vatican.
The moral relativism that places a wounded penguin in Patagonia on the same level as a living human being destroyed by abortion is what has turned our world upside down over the past century or so.
There are ample venues to display images of God’s creation. The facade of the preeminent Basilica of Christ’s Church where Holy Mass is celebrated is not one of them.
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As_for_my_House
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Is the Pope just trying to find a common ground to reach the secular world?
Is this his way of attracting their attention? I hope so.
Is this his way of attracting their attention? I hope so.
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gilliam
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First off: Loving God’s expression in nature is nothing new and there is nothing secular about it.
Second, having beautiful parts of God’s creation on a Church is nothing new (see the statues and frescoes) nor is it secular.
Third, having events that rejoice in God’s creation and the beauty even in music in front of the St. Peters is nothing new nor is it secular.
Second, having beautiful parts of God’s creation on a Church is nothing new (see the statues and frescoes) nor is it secular.
Third, having events that rejoice in God’s creation and the beauty even in music in front of the St. Peters is nothing new nor is it secular.
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sarah_j
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Yes, it’s chilling.The Nativity? Holy Family? Immaculate Conception? What are these things of which you speak? Lion cubs and zebras and cute little monkeys are much better fodder for contemplation. Concentrate for a moment on the plight of the polar bear! Chilling isn’t it?
And what’s even more frightening is that many Catholics don’t seem to see that the Church of Christ is being mocked.
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