Episcopal Presiding Bishop Michael Curry to preach at Henry and Meghan's Wedding

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I thank you. My interest was with respect to Great Britain and the CoE.
 
Rick Warren is too orthodox for the C of E.
 
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Weellll, he was American. I would sort of expect that he would be “un-British”.

It WAS funny to hear my husband’s reaction though. I’m thinking - dude, you need to go to a tent revival some time. 😆😆😆

The best part of being Catholic is the homily is short and to the point. Most Protestant sermons over here last from 20-45 minutes. (groan)
 
GKMotley said:
Remind me of the preceding royal marriages involving an American as a headliner.
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Also not British but look up Queen Noor of Jordan, now the Queen Mother.

Lee Radizwell, Jackie O’s sister, married a prince. Princess Grace of Monaco is another (I’m sure she’s been mentioned already somewhere). Rita Hayworth married Prince Aly Khan. And technically - though she was not bestowed the title HRH as a style she could use - Wallis Simpson, for whom Elizabeth’s uncle abdicated the throne to marry, married a prince, because no decree could strip David of the title of Prince, inherited as the son of the monarch. They were given the title of Duke and Duchess of Windsor, but Wallis was technically not an HRH.

Those are the ones I know off the top of my head.

There have been 11 American women (and apparently at least one American man, lol) who have married royalty. The Brits just get all the press and are arguably the most popular.

I found a listing:

 
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twf said:
The children of Earls other than the heir obviously who becomes the Earl himself in time…

Of course the British definition of nobility was always very limited. More so than continental nobility. You had hoards of landed gentry who were aristocrats for all practical intents and purposes, but without the title and legal privileges.
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They’re still members of the aristocracy. Peter Phillips, who is completely untitled, and Zara Phillips, also untitled - the children of the Princess Royal and her first husband, Capt Mark Phillips - are also aristocracy members as grandchildren of the monarch and are considered members of the Royal Family, but they are untitled.
 
sudy said:
Secondly, I didn’t know that natural marriages can be dissolved simply by the fact that they are natural marriages. I always understood that marriage between two unbaptised people was valid.
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As far as I know, you’re right on that. And if one is later baptized, i believe it’s then considered sacramental. And I think I read that in the CCC, but I’m open to correction because I’m too lazy to look it up LOL.
 
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I thought she had become a British citizen before the marriage but you are right.
 
And thanks to you, likewise.

I certainly might have made my question a little more circumscribed and explicit, as looking for a parallel to the post topic; i.e. an American and a British Royal. Certainly the Duke of Windsor and Wallis Warfield (as she styled herself, via a deed-poll name reversion) would come the closest, which is to say, not close at all. A wedding in France, unsanctioned by the Church of England, though performed by a CoE vicar, with a great deal of legal doing and fro-ing on titles and such means that the entire affair was quite sui generis. One wonders if there was an homilist at all.

Many of the other instances were familiar to me. My wife is my vade mecum on all things Royal.
 
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I was very proud as well. His preaching was inspired and he knew his audience. I liked the reference to Jesuit Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.

Elizabeth I might have squirmed at the mention of the Jesuits. Elizabeth II didn’t have to.
 
exnihilo said:
I can see why one would do that. But it is racism. The bride is not even half Black. The emphasis on her mixed race follows the one drop rule. The royal family made the marriage about race by doing this, if that was the motivation. Why not have the service in German to emphasize the prince’s heritage?
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Your remark is totally disgusting. It wasn’t your wedding. Why would you feel like you have any say in who they got to deliver the address? Should they have a right to say who makes the homily at your wedding? Ridiculous.
 
QwertyGirl said:
Your remark is totally disgusting. It wasn’t your wedding. Why would you feel like you have any say in who they got to deliver the address? Should they have a right to say who makes the homily at your wedding? Ridiculous.
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Oh, I never said I have a say in it. But I do have the right to comment on it. I’m sure you don’t limit your comments to only things you have a say in. In fact your last comment was proof of that.
 
I have a total say in calling out disgusting posts when I read them. Your remark, not to mention your train of thought, is offensive. I would call you a racist and a bigot based on what you wrote, except I don’t know you so I won’t do that. Your remark, however was completely racist and bigotted. If you don’t understand that, then hopefully you do understand the word “disgusting”. It was that, too.
 
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How about in the Pentecostal movement, which I’m told continues to grow in Britain? That’s a genuine question, because I’ve never been in a Pentecostal church, but in my imagination this is the sort of preaching (though possibly warmed up a bit) that they employ.
 
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