Episcopalian Vs. Catholic?

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You need to get a hobby LOL. Though I guess knowing Mary’s embroidery would count as a hobby.
For me the books are the hobby. Or they reflect it. And it runs in many directions, and deep.

My board name was not chosen casually, for example. And I just returned from a major SF convention where I added 43 signed books to that collection.

Many facets.

GKC
 
It’s difficult to pin me on Henry and the Tudor bunch. But there are weak spots, even in my other specialties.

Thank you for the kind words.

GKC
Kind words, indeed! Not at all. The unsuspecting world needs to know what it’s up against when it comes up against your formidable weaponry.
 
In his book on the American religious history, ASU Professor (Emeritus) Richard Wentz started his chapter on Episcopalianism with an anecdote where an Episcopalian missionary to some third world country was trying to explain what his denomination was–the missionary eventually came down to the sentence “We’re just like the Catholics–except without the Pope”

Thats it. And thats a LOT.
 
In his book on the American religious history, ASU Professor (Emeritus) Richard Wentz started his chapter on Episcopalianism with an anecdote where an Episcopalian missionary to some third world country was trying to explain what his denomination was–the missionary eventually came down to the sentence “We’re just like the Catholics–except without the Pope”

Thats it. And thats a LOT.
I think it might even be a little optimistic. But it sure sounds a lot like my parish. Though the Pope is certainly remembered in the prayers for all faithful bishops.

GKC
 
In his book on the American religious history, ASU Professor (Emeritus) Richard Wentz started his chapter on Episcopalianism with an anecdote where an Episcopalian missionary to some third world country was trying to explain what his denomination was–the missionary eventually came down to the sentence “We’re just like the Catholics–except without the Pope”

Thats it. And thats a LOT.
that is the same explanation i would give to people who did not know what it meant to be episcopalian. i was very naive. i see now how far off i was because it is not that simple.
 
True enough, as to the history. And the distrust worked both ways.

GKC
I believe it should be noted that at times the persecutions were very political in nature. Religion and politics were not easily separated. Mary Queen of Scotts as Elizabeth were constantly in power struggles with men. Elizabeth was actively deceived by her royal court. Mary Queen of Scotts was always in survival mode between Elizabeth and the powerful Lords that were supposed to be loyal to her. In the end Mary Queen of Scotts lost the political power struggle and was beheaded. I find her most fascinating in that she took the beheading very calmly. She died as a Queen was supposed to die at the time. I haven’t read about them for some time. If Deborah and GKC know differently tell me.
 
In his book on the American religious history, ASU Professor (Emeritus) Richard Wentz started his chapter on Episcopalianism with an anecdote where an Episcopalian missionary to some third world country was trying to explain what his denomination was–the missionary eventually came down to the sentence “We’re just like the Catholics–except without the Pope”

Thats it. And thats a LOT.
I can believe that many would say that, because I also know that many Eastern Catholics say “We’re just like the Orthodox, except that we’ve got the pope.”
 
I believe it should be noted that at times the persecutions were very political in nature. Religion and politics were not easily separated. Mary Queen of Scotts as Elizabeth were constantly in power struggles with men. Elizabeth was actively deceived by her royal court. Mary Queen of Scotts was always in survival mode between Elizabeth and the powerful Lords that were supposed to be loyal to her. In the end Mary Queen of Scotts lost the political power struggle and was beheaded. I find her most fascinating in that she took the beheading very calmly. She died as a Queen was supposed to die at the time. I haven’t read about them for some time. If Deborah and GKC know differently tell me.
you are right perry, in those days, religion and politics were not easily separated. what you have written sounds correct. unfortunately, mary was another who lost her head. they were certainly barbaric in those days with their beheadings and the different methods of torture they used to get information out of people. i am very glad i didn’t live back then.
 
I believe it should be noted that at times the persecutions were very political in nature. Religion and politics were not easily separated. Mary Queen of Scotts as Elizabeth were constantly in power struggles with men. Elizabeth was actively deceived by her royal court. Mary Queen of Scotts was always in survival mode between Elizabeth and the powerful Lords that were supposed to be loyal to her. In the end Mary Queen of Scotts lost the political power struggle and was beheaded. I find her most fascinating in that she took the beheading very calmly. She died as a Queen was supposed to die at the time. I haven’t read about them for some time. If Deborah and GKC know differently tell me.
Yep. That’s the way it was. See Fraser’s MARY QUEEN OF SCOTS, for example. It leans a little toward Mary’s side, as against Elizabeth, but it’s good.

Mary did dabble in dangerous affairs. Not a very wise head on her shoulders. As long as it lasted.

GKC
 
I’ve often heard that the Episocopal faith is “Catholic lite” and I was just wondering what are the differences between the two denominations are? I have a friend that is interesting in the Episocopalian Church and I don’t know what to tell her how it compares or doesn’t compare to Catholicism.
I was pleasantly surprised when I read the 39 Articles of Faith. It is a very solid statement of faith on the essentials of the Christian Faith. Have the liberal branch of the Episocopalian Church rejected the 39 Articles of Faith… leaving them with humanistic beliefs and ecumenical ideas not based on biblical truth? All major denominatons including the Roman Catholic Church will have their liberal and orthodox branches within their own denominations.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/39_Articles
 
I was pleasantly surprised when I read the 39 Articles of Faith. It is a very solid statement of faith on the essentials of the Christian Faith. Have the liberal branch of the Episocopalian Church rejected the 39 Articles of Faith… leaving them with humanistic beliefs and ecumenical ideas not based on biblical truth? All major denominatons including the Roman Catholic Church will have their liberal and orthodox branches within their own denominations.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/39_Articles
Grrr…😉
No, we have not rejected them. They are found in my Book of Common Prayer.

God Bless!
 
Grrr…😉
No, we have not rejected them. They are found in my Book of Common Prayer.

God Bless!
But the Episcopal Church (if not the whole Anglican Communion) has relegated them to the status of “historical documents.” Nobody is held to the Articles.
 
Grrr…😉
No, we have not rejected them. They are found in my Book of Common Prayer.

God Bless!
Do you use the 79 boook?If so, they are in the “historical” section. Best thing about that book.

Aat any rate, any Anglicain is free to affirm or reject the Articles, as a whole. Except for ordinands of the CoE.

GKC
 
But the Episcopal Church (if not the whole Anglican Communion) has relegated them to the status of “historical documents.” Nobody is held to the Articles.
Except (theoretically) ordinands of the CoE, and one Anglican African jurisdiction (recently).

GKC
 
Do you use the 79 boook?If so, they are in the “historical” section. Best thing about that book.

Aat any rate, any Anglicain is free to affirm or reject the Articles, as a whole. Except for ordinands of the CoE.

GKC
GKC,

Yes, I do use the Book of Common Prayer 1979. I don’t think that it is your cup of tea, correct?

God Bless!
 
Hey…this looks really good too after a quick glance. So what’s the beef with these historical documents of your denomination? I looked at the Historical Documents of the Church section.

bcponline.org/
 
Hi Reformed,

I am reading over the Articles of the Religion and the following caught my attention.

XXX. Of both Kinds.

The Cup of the Lord is not to be denied to the Lay-people: for both the parts of the Lord’s Sacrament, by Christ’s ordinance and commandment, ought to be ministered to all Christian men alike.
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I attended our children's Catholic School's Mass this morning and the cup was not offered to the people.  I am glad that our church follows the example that Jesus did at the Last Supper.

God Bless!
 
Hi Reformed,

I am reading over the Articles of the Religion and the following caught my attention.

XXX. Of both Kinds.

The Cup of the Lord is not to be denied to the Lay-people: for both the parts of the Lord’s Sacrament, by Christ’s ordinance and commandment, ought to be ministered to all Christian men alike.
Code:
I attended our children's Catholic School's Mass this morning and the cup was not offered to the people.  I am glad that our church follows the example that Jesus did at the Last Supper.

God Bless!
Does that mean that your church does not fence the table (withold the sacrament) from Christians from other denominations? If that’s the case, that’s a very good practice…and is pleasing to God.
 
Hi Reformed,

I am reading over the Articles of the Religion and the following caught my attention.

XXX. Of both Kinds.

The Cup of the Lord is not to be denied to the Lay-people: for both the parts of the Lord’s Sacrament, by Christ’s ordinance and commandment, ought to be ministered to all Christian men alike.
Code:
I attended our children's Catholic School's Mass this morning and the cup was not offered to the people. I am glad that our church follows the example that Jesus did at the Last Supper.
 
God Bless!
Are you familiar with the history behind the custom of communicating the congregation in only one kind? It was in response to the Utraquist heresy that claimed that Christ was not fully present in one species but only in both taken together. The Catholic position is, of course (as is the Episcopal position) that Our Lord is fully present in EITHER species.

And be aware, “both parts of the Lord’s Sacrament” are frequently administered to the congregation in Catholic churches and no Mass is valid unless the Priest communicates in both kinds.
 
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