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Ortho
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Are you trying to say an ER episode is persecution of Catholics?
Movies are persecution of Catholics?
- Status
Movies are persecution of Catholics?
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Ortho
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JCPhoenix wrote:
“Catholics aren’t allowed to have opinions or practice their faith, nor are we considered to have the ability to do the right thing.”
Is that a complaint or a simple statement of fact?
So what did you say that you backed up with the CCC?
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JCPhoenix
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Ortho, what are you…15? If it will make you happy I will restate the sentence and remove the tongue-in-cheek sarcasm.
“According to popular opinion in my experience, Catholic opinions are not respected nor are we considered to have the ability to think for ourselves.”
You do not have to agree with the above statement in your own experience, but do not dictate to me what is or is not true in my own personal experience. It is therefore, a statement of fact which I defined more completely in my following post.
And again…the previous debate is NOT a part of this thread nor will I address this again with you. Now stop behaving like a bully and go troll elsewhere.
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Ortho
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I know nothing about any previous debate.
William Buckley is Catholic. Who says he can’t think for himself?
Supreme court justices Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, and Roberts are Catholic. So is Alito. Who says they cannot think for themselves? Who does not respect their opinions?
Our world is full of Catholics who have risen to the top of their professions through their own merit. I very much doubt they are not respected nor considered to have the ability to think for themselves.
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rlg94086
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Do you have difficulty with the english language?
I believe that… “The constant barrage in the media (TV and movies, especially) of negative stereotypes of Catholics and other Christians and the ridicule of our values”…is a form of persecution.
Do I need to post the meaning of the word again?
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Ortho
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Does that mean “yes?” Do you have trouble with the language?
That is an exceedingly low bar for persecution. If I laugh at you, is that persecution? What else do you see as current persecution of Catholics?
Is it a widespread belief among Catholics that ER is persecution of Catholics? The Catholics I know are pretty strong folks and would laugh at that notion.
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mlchance
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ER is still on the air?
– Mark L. Chance.
– Mark L. Chance.
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Celia
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That’s what I was thinking!
Gosh, that show was on when I was in junior high, with George Clooney and all. How long has it been on? Is any of the original cast still there? I did hear that a lot of them aren’t there. (I thought it was off the air already though. I don’t watch NBC that much.)
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JCPhoenix
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ER debuted in september 1994. (I remember this because I saw the previews, looked forward to the show…and then never saw the first half of the season because I went to Mexico that semester.)That’s what I was thinking!
Yup, it’s still running. George Clooney left years ago, Noah Wylie left a couple years ago, a couple doctors died. I’m trying to think if there’s anyone original anymore…maybe a couple.
So it’s been running now…what…nearly 12 years now?
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Celia
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Gosh, yeah, almost 12 years. So I was actually in middle school when it started…wow! And I’ve never seen an episode!
(course from the tone of this thread it doesn’t seem that I’m missing much, lol)
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Ortho
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Carrie is still there. So is the big guy behind the admitting desk. Also a middle aged black nurse.
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John_Higgins
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Noah Wylie is coming back for four episodes this year based in Africa.
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beckyann2597
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I have been a viewer of ER since the beginning and I watched the episode being discussed, which became a disagreement between my husband and I. I wanted to bring a little bit of character history into the discussion. The “Catholic” Dr isn’t really the best television representation of a Catholic. He is a man that has major problems and has struggled with matters of faith and morals on many an episode.
1.His wife and children were either murdered or died a tragic death which he is running from.
2. He came to America as a physician and lived with a nurse and her son, but broke it off when she didn’t want to get married or have any more children.
3. His girlfriend in this episode was pregnant and he really wanted to have the baby with her, but she wasn’t so sure.
4. He went to Africa and was kidnapped with some of patients and other Drs by a malitia. Many were murdered and or horribly raped. The only thing that saved his life (a a couple of patients)was him praying before he was to be executed and another malitia member mistaking him as a priest.
5. He has frequented prostitutes in a mixed up desire to fill the void in his heart.
My point is that this character is very complicated and from his history, viewers know he is torn between worldy desires and spiritual serenity. This episode will not keep me from watching the series in the future, that siad-- It did disturb and sadden me.
1.His wife and children were either murdered or died a tragic death which he is running from.
2. He came to America as a physician and lived with a nurse and her son, but broke it off when she didn’t want to get married or have any more children.
3. His girlfriend in this episode was pregnant and he really wanted to have the baby with her, but she wasn’t so sure.
4. He went to Africa and was kidnapped with some of patients and other Drs by a malitia. Many were murdered and or horribly raped. The only thing that saved his life (a a couple of patients)was him praying before he was to be executed and another malitia member mistaking him as a priest.
5. He has frequented prostitutes in a mixed up desire to fill the void in his heart.
My point is that this character is very complicated and from his history, viewers know he is torn between worldy desires and spiritual serenity. This episode will not keep me from watching the series in the future, that siad-- It did disturb and sadden me.
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axolotl
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He’s from the former Yugoslavia, Croatia, I believe. IIRC, a bomb fell on their apt. building.
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Anglican77
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I am very sorry for the atrocity that has happened to you. Rape is a horrible event to endure and live through and I disagree with the other poster who said rape victims who have abortions are cowards. They aren’t cowards they are just in a traumatic state and probably lack sound council. However, I have to ask you if you have ever known a person who has had an abortion? Have you ever witnessed the lifelong regret and remorse she feels? As some of the other posters have stated, committing an evil act on someone else as a result of an evil done to you will not bring any relief. In fact, the baby could be God’s way of giving the rape victim a wonderful way to cope with the evil that she has endured. I understand that you think the child would be a constant reminder, but I can tell you that God’s plan is always the better plan. When you watch the child grow he or she would only serve as a positive reminder that truly good things can come from horrific acts.
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aimee
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of course adoption is always a possibility
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CatholicSam
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I am shocked that no one has mentioned this in this rather lenghthy thread, but **EVERYTHING ** is God’s will. Nothing ever, ever, ever happen’s without it being in God’s will. Yes, rapes, murders, children being born with debilitating illnesses, they’re all God’s will. What you need to understand is that there are two type’s of God’s will-- God’s permitting will and God’s ordaining will. This is probably a topic best discussed in a different forum, so if any of you are interested, we can continue elsewhere so as not to hijack this thread.
And thank you, Aimee, for mentioning the option of adoption
No one is forcing women to raise their own babies–we’re just trying to prevent them from killing them.- Status