Ethical Eating (of animals)

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Then you need to thank a hunter then. We keep your veggies safe from those horrible animals that you don’t like to eat. So if we don’t kill animals what happens then? They just continue to breed until there is no more room for them? Then what?
 
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This sounds like what Descartes, brilliant philosopher and mathematician, used to say about ALL animals. Science eventually proved him wrong. I
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Not his worst day.

One evening at a cocktail party, he was asked if he’d like another drink.

Upon replying, “I think not”, he vanished in a puff of logic . . .

🤣

And while I"m at it, nearly 100 replies with noone noting the epistle reading (not used in west, but 2 or 3 times a year in the east) about vegetarians being weak in faith :ducks:😱🤨:roll_eyes:

hawk
 
After reading all these posts, a hamburger would taste great right now.
 
For one thing WE could stop breading them by the billions for our food supply .
 
I could not survive as a vegan or vegetarian.

I eat a limited amount of vegetables and no fruit. Eating fruit is a texture thing for me and I vomit when I have eaten fruit. Veggie burgers are just, well, never mind. I don’t have anything nice to say about them.
 
Ok so i didn’t read all the comments on this thread, but I would like to say this. I know people who are vegan and have read studies from Doctors who do a fair amount of research on this issue of eating animals. These people, changed their diets from eating animals, dairy consumption, etc. and it completely changed their lives for the better. One person i know changed his diet thankfully or else he would have died from a heart attack.

What I am basically saying is that eating vegan is not a bad lifestyle and may actually help our planet. I understand many would rather stick with meat, i get that, I am not vegan yet, but I have personally seen the changes and the positive outcomes of not eating animal based foods, but rather plant based foods.

Also lets be real, animal cruelity has no justification.
 
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I actually put “breading” didn’t.

Maybe Freudian. When I was a kid one of my favorite meals was breaded steak. You pound some kind of inexpensive meat thin, bread it and fry it.
 
I’m not talking about breeding for our consumption. Just animals in general. If we don’t control their population we will be overrun with animals both wild and domesticated. Like I said, your choice to become vegan is based on emotions.
 
Are you talking about all animals or just the ones you like to hunt and eat?
 
We just had another coyote attack in a suburb area. This is the 2nd one in two weeks in that area.

Across the state, more and more people and their pets are being attacked. Pets are often killed.

It’s time to start thinning out the coyote populations in various areas, and thin out the bears who have also populated those areas. Yesterday, the news reported a black bear dragging a five year old girl out to the woods. The mother came out screaming and thankfully, the bear dropped the little girl and she’ll survive.

I’m sick of animal rights activists putting animals above the safety of humans.

Jim
 
My proposal from the op:

A Catholic Kosher, if you will permit. That would involve due diligence in avoiding a share in the maltreatment of the animals slaughtered. That could simply mean eating closer to the source, local farms and ranches. Or perhaps at least taking an interest in where exactly that hamburger, bacon of whatever animal flesh is at your table, came from. And how the animals where treated before butchering.
 
So you don’t find a problem with the idea of eating meat, only how it was harvested and the quality of life of the animal. So would it be better if everyone was a hunter/fisher since the animals get to live out a life in the wild (better quality of life) instead of using factory farming? But if everyone was a hunter/fisher, than the animals in the wild would not reproduce enough to feed our current population level and these animals would go extinct. Just look at the affects of fishing on the populations of these aquatic animals in the oceans since we can not factory farm these fish. If there are more smaller local farm for animal harvesting, then there will be more animal abuse since there will be too many small farms to observe by the regulatory agencies for them to check on. If you have a smaller amount of large farms, then our regulatory agencies have the resources to check on these farms to ensure they are not abusing these animals. Also, these larger farms have the financial resources to provide all the care needed for these animals, unlike smaller farms. Sounds like the solution then would be to continue to look at lab grown protein. But I don’t think that people are willing to do that just yet, since we are all afraid of the unknown.
 
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Its because of us hunters and anglers that species don’t go extinct. We are not allowed to go and shoot whatever we see. We get permits or we don’t. We are limited to what we can hunt and the number of animals we can have in our possession (mainly upland game and waterfowl).
 
So again, how is it you think these animals are killed by local ranches and farms? Do you think they sing them to death? No!. They still put a steel rod through their foreheads or cut their throats. Yes they may have more room to roam on a smaller ranch instead of a huge slaughter house, but they all meet their ends the same. Emotion based!
 
I am talking about the mathematics of the issue. The current population of humanity to eat meat via hunting and fishing would wipe out wild life since wildlife doesn’t populate in the rate that factory farming does. Wildlife doesn’t have the habitat and time period to recover the numbers of harvested animals unless we reduce the current human population level
 
My point is that if you must kill do it as humanely as possible, if it is indeed possible at all. Will animals then overrun us? It is possible some could and we will have to find the most humane ways to deal with them. Arguing from
“Emotion”? Compassion does not have to be void of logic, you know.
 
Do you think that farmed animals reproduce more than wild animals do? Just because they live on a farm don’t mean they reproduce more. Where did you hear such nonsense? I think you need to talk to a wildlife biologist.
 
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