Ethical Eating (of animals)

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What do you consider humane? I also have compassion when it comes to animals. I love wildlife and domesticated animals. But when you cant eat animals because you think they are treated a certain way then that’s emotional. Does it bug you when a lion kills a zebra or antelope? Or a coyote killing a rabbit?
 
What’s wrong with being emotional about refraining from eating animals? Why is having an emotional attitude about animals something that necessarily clouds reason? (I never completely understood the emotion vs. reason dichotomy.) Most of our relationships with people are also emotional, and, on balance, I don’t think that’s problematic either. Life is an emotional experience.
 
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I use a .270 when I harvest a mule deer. Just had my out of state hunting license confirmed for Montana.

I will be using my 30.06 when I hunt elk this late fall.

So yes, I know where and what my animal has been/been eating; no hormones.

And no, they are not tortured. That is simply empotional babble. The same applies to sheep, cows, pigs and other animals which are farm raised.

Apache 75 asked about when one animal kills another; everyone whould watch how two coyotes can bring down a deer; or how several wolves can bring down an elk. And they often don’t even eat all the meat.

I do, with the exception of organs.
 
If you consider yourself an animal then perhaps you are killing in a more humane way than lions and coyotes. They dont know any better and are not expected to have a moral standard. I for my part, choose not to promote the industry as best I can. Cutting beaks of chicks, castrating pigs without anesthesia, stacking chickens in cages, etc. No thanks.
 
Yes farm animals survive longer to reproduce more often with more healthy offspring since they are managed by selective breeding practices, forced insemination, facilities to protect them from wildlife, the harsh weather, an abundant access to food supplies, veterinarian care, etc. I know you want to be argumentative here, but there is no argument here. Farmed animals are an investment where we breed them better and ensure maximum return in the future. That is why the domestic cow lives longer, has more milk production, and more times to produce offspring than the wild beast it came from for example.
 
I love all kinds of meat and will never give up what God said I am allowed to eat.
When I go to a supermarket I will certainly not try to research in advance if the animals killed were treated properly. I assume they are.
 
You may be assuming incorrectly. Kosher products (beef, chicken) are supposed to be killed humanely with the least pain inflicted, by using the sharpest blade with no nicks and in a single motion. I understand Hallal guidelines follow similar requirements. Still, I have my doubts regarding the actual practice involved in Kosher slaughtering, let alone the living quarters of the animals and what they are fed. Non-kosher slaughter does not, even in theory, require such particularly humane treatment of animals prior to consumption. So I suppose it is up to the individual industry CEO’s and managers which rules are followed regarding the care of animals prior to the slaughtering process.
 
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I do love me some backstraps. Hopefully I will get my elk and deer this August with my bow! (First bow hunts ever!!!)
 
I disagree.

We can thin out any species we desire.

There was a time that coyotes were almost nonexistent in New England.

Now we’re just about overrun by them.

Jim
 
The reason I say they can’t be thinned out is because when that has been tried, they’ve bred more and come back in higher numbers. That’s the way is with wildlife.
 
Then how did they get wiped out before their comeback, which is relatively recent ?

Jim
 
They didn’t get “wiped out.” If they had, there wouldn’t have been a “comeback.”
 
There were practically non-existent in New England.

Wildlife Management had to bring them back and they were protected until their numbers became stabilized.

Now their populations are getting out of control, especially in the Suburb areas.

Jim
 
Definition:
Practically
prac·ti·cal·ly
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adverb
1.
virtually; almost.
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Practically nonexistent = almost nonexistent.

Hope this helps. 😀

Jim
 
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Practically nonexistent = almost nonexistent.
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And for something that breeds like rabbits, “practically non-existent” is like “next seasonlots and lots” (especially given the rabbit population boom that occurred during the predator decline.

hawk
 
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And for something that breeds like rabbits, “practically non-existent” is like “next seasonlots and lots” (especially given the rabbit population boom that occurred during the predator decline.

hawk
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Australia had a TERRIBLE problem with out of control rabbit breeding.
 
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