Eucharist: consuming the Host

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On Catholic Answers (18 Jan 11) a caller named Daniel assumes that Communion on the tongue is doctrinal. This is FALSE! The method of taking Communion by tongue or hand is disciplinary.

NO evidence exists where the Apostles took Communion by the tongue. A clue that anyone can see is to look at the breaking of the Challah in Shabbat services and other Jewish services.

Who permitted Communion on the hand? St. Cyprian of Carthage! See www.newadvent.org/cathen/04583b.htm

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My opinion on it is that people get too caught up on how they receive Jesus instead of the fact that they are receiving Jesus.

Does it matter which one is more traditional? In the Byzantine Rite, Communion is given with the use of a spoon. It is an innovation at some point. Today it is traditional as it has been done for hundreds of years. But back then, it hasn’t been done before. Certainly they didn’t use a spoon at the Last Supper. Was a big fuss made back then?
 
My opinion on it is that people get too caught up on how they receive Jesus instead of the fact that they are receiving Jesus.

Does it matter which one is more traditional? In the Byzantine Rite, Communion is given with the use of a spoon. It is an innovation at some point. Today it is traditional as it has been done for hundreds of years. But back then, it hasn’t been done before. Certainly they didn’t use a spoon at the Last Supper. Was a big fuss made back then?
Amen! I really don’t think they had a communion rail in the upper room. Even those who almost demand a complete return to COTT also support the communion rail. Where is that in doctrine?
 
My opinion on it is that people get too caught up on how they receive Jesus instead of the fact that they are receiving Jesus.
To my mind, that we’re receiving Jesus precludes the casual attitude adopted throughout the Ordinary Form, at least every time I’ve seen the Novus Ordo in action. More compelling, I think, is the real question:

Which is more reverent?
 
Amen! I really don’t think they had a communion rail in the upper room. Even those who almost demand a complete return to COTT also support the communion rail. Where is that in doctrine?
However, the Last Supper also had an additional component to it. It was also the ordination of the Apostles into the priesthood. If you look at a sacerdotal ordination, notice the manner in which the newly ordained communicate. They “take and eat” and “take and drink”. On the other hand, the faithful receive. We do not take; we receive.
 
To my mind, that we’re receiving Jesus precludes the casual attitude adopted throughout the Ordinary Form, at least every time I’ve seen the Novus Ordo in action. More compelling, I think, is the real question:

Which is more reverent?
Do you judge reverence by the externals or the internal?

[BIBLEDRB]Luke 18:9-14[/BIBLEDRB]

The Pharisee here got all the externals right. But it is not what Jesus was looking for.
 
Do you judge reverence by the externals or the internal?
Fine, fine. Force me to slightly re-word my answer. Which encourages reverence? Flip-flops and a soccer jersey or Sunday Best at a communion rail?

There is no question what example I want my kids to see.
 
Do you judge reverence by the externals or the internal?

[bibledrb]Luke 18:9-14[/bibledrb]

The Pharisee here got all the externals right. But it is not what Jesus was looking for.
Did he? Really?

And what about the publican?

And the publican, standing afar off, would not so much as lift up his eyes towards heaven; but struck his breast,

It seems to me that the externals are usually reflective of the internals, since we are sensate creatures. The Pharisee was not talking to God, but himself. The publican was, internally and externally, before God as a sinner.

There are people who receive Communion in the hand who are clearly reverent. But, there are also people who are not. I have never seen any who receive on the tongue who appear irreverent.
 
Fine, fine. Force me to slightly re-word my answer. Which encourages reverence? Flip-flops and a soccer jersey or Sunday Best at a communion rail?
Reverence is independent of any combination of mode of receiving/clothing worn. Reverence is a matter of the heart.

This reminds me of how Protestants feel that the blood of Christ covers them like a blanket and makes them look pure in the sight of God. The parallel is, it’s as though some here think that the right clothes and mode of receiving make them reverent in the sight of God, (not to mention to the people who observe them).

Reverence is in the heart.

I observed the most reverence I’ve ever witnessed in anyone, in an elderly man at adoration who kneeled in prayer for a long time in front of the Blessed Sacrament. And he was wearing scruffy old clothes. And he received Communion earlier wearing those clothes and received in the hand. No lack of reverence was in his heart.
 
However, the Last Supper also had an additional component to it. It was also the ordination of the Apostles into the priesthood. If you look at a sacerdotal ordination, notice the manner in which the newly ordained communicate. They “take and eat” and “take and drink”. On the other hand, the faithful receive. We do not take; we receive.
Agreed. That is why it was exclusive of all other believers. But, even though Jesus said the word which is translated “take”, the Apostles still received from Christ, since He initiated the action. Or, am I wrong here?

The bigger issue, as I see it, relates to some who want to see a physical posture which appears to them as “reverent”. The human heart is what must adopt the posture of reverence. One can certainly receive irreverently in their hearts, even while “reverently” kneeling at a rail. Just as many can receive in a state of mortal sin while “reverently” kneeling at the rail. Allow me to paraphrase here: “These people praise me with their posture, but their hearts are far from Me”.

Are not those who lobby constantly for a return to the rail following their personal preferences, their egos, as the Church has stated that both forms are equally valid. Where is the obedience and resignation to the judgment of the Church?

This raises hackles, but I see a bit of nostalgia in wanting to return to the old form. Symbolically, we rise, move forward and go to Christ in receiving the Eucharist, no matter which form is used. We have put hand to plow. Why do we keep looking back?
 
originally posted by Elijah Baley
Which encourages reverence? Flip-flops and a soccer jersey or Sunday Best at a communion rail?
Amen.
And then there was the woman who was a lector in the Newman Center I attended when first coming into The Church who, in the summer, would read in a tank top and no bra. I found that extremely disturbing and neither the priest nor the nun said a word to her about this.
I guess that was why the church was packed at Sunday 9 P.M. Mass? 🤷 Almost all college students you understand.
 
With a lax priest, and no fraternal correction, flip-flops will also show up at the rail. Sadly, in a self-destructing society, the burden of enforcing common decency and reverence falls upon the priest.
 
The question also arises, just because the Apostles received Holy Communion in the hand, as did the early Christians, does that make it a sufficient argument for Communion in the hand? Pope Pius XII wrote in his encyclical Mediator Dei in 1947 that
“The liturgy of the early ages is worthy of veneration; but an ancient custom is not to be considered better, either in itself or in relation to later times and circumstances, just because it has the flavour of antiquity…It would be wrong, for example, to want the altar restored to its ancient form of a table; to want black excluded from the liturgical colours, and pictures and statues excluded from our churches.”
As the author Michael Davies put it, the encyclical “contained an urgent warning against those who attempt to subvert the Faith under the pretext of a return to primitive practice”.

It is also worth noting that while the Church Fathers may have referred to Communion being given in the hand, it was not received by the communicant in the same manner as it is today. In the early Church, the Christians would have (as St Cyril says) made “the left hand a throne for the right since this hand is about to receive the King”. The similarity ends there, for they did not actually pick up the sacred host, but bowed before it and then consumed it directly from the palm of their hand. I would suggest reading Dominus Est - it is the Lord by Bishop Athanasius Schneider if you are interested in the history of the method of receiving Holy Communion.

However, to tie the concerns of Pope Pius XII with the account of the reception of the Eucharist as given by St Cyril: the latter says after the part I quoted earlier
“Making the palm hollow, receive the Body of Christ, adding ‘Amen’. Then, carefully sanctifying the eyes by touching them with the holy Body, partake of it, ensuring that you do not mislay any of it…After you have partaken of the Body of Christ, come forward also for the cup of the Blood…Say ‘Amen’, and sanctify yourself by partaking of Christ’s Blood also. While the moisture is still on your lips, touch them with your hands and sanctify your eyes, your forehead, and all your other sensory organs…”
So, because the early Christians received Communion in the hand, should we recommend touching our eyes with the Eucharist, or touching our eyes and sensory organs with the Precious Blood? I doubt anyone would suggest that we should.

The point is that pious methods of reception of Holy Communion have developed over the centuries. Various practices have come and gone, and the practice of receiving on the tongue came from an acute awareness of the Real Presence - Communion on the tongue was the norm in some places by the end of the 6th century, and the Roman Ordo of the 9th century accepts Communion on the tongue as normal practice. In short, handling the sacred host was, as Pope John Paul II noted, a “privilege of the ordained”. The next tradition of communion in the hand began at the Protestant “reformation” where there was no problem with handling the communion since it was not believed to be the body of Christ, nor was doing so considered a privilege of the ordained. In short, to the Protestant “reformers”, placing the host on the communicant’s tongue signified that the Eucharist was not ordinary bread and it gave the impression that the priest posessed powers (i.e. the authority to touch the Eucharist) that the layman did not.

One could actually ask whether the current method of receiving Holy Communion in the hand is more in line with the customs of the “reformers” than the customs recounted by the Early Church Fathers. Either way, neither is a good enough argument for Communion in the hand.
 
Either way, neither is a good enough argument for Communion in the hand.
So, do you then refuse CITH? The blessing of being Catholic is that we have an authoritative Church to decide the details, both large and small, for us. Such important details are not decided lightly. What they bind on earth is bound in heaven. It is enough.
 
So, do you then refuse CITH? The blessing of being Catholic is that we have an authoritative Church to decide the details, both large and small, for us. Such important details are not decided lightly. What they bind on earth is bound in heaven. It is enough.
The Church has given the authority to individual bishops’ conferences to decide whether or not they will permit Communion in the hand (though this only came about after certain bishops introduced CITH as an abuse - Pope Paul VI’s enquiries had shown that the majority of bishops in the 1960’s were not at all in favour of CITH). In considering whether or not it should be allowed, it is hardly sufficient to say that the early Christians received in the hand, therefore we will allow it - as Pius XII said, ancient customs are not necessarily to be considered better. Plus the fact that, as I have already indicated, using the practices of the early Christians to permit Communion in the hand today is certainly not comparing like with like.

If you are interested in looking further into the subject, I am currently making my way through Michael Davies’ excellent book Pope Paul’s New Mass, which contains an entire chapter on the history of Communion in the hand, and especially its introduction post-Vatican II. There are some real eye-openers there.
 
The Church has given the authority to individual bishops’ conferences to decide whether or not they will permit Communion in the hand (though this only came about after certain bishops introduced CITH as an abuse…
I see much of this COTT effort as “my way or the highway” power struggles within the Church. I see sides being taken and allies within the Church being assembled in defense of a particular agenda. I see discontent and disobedience due to various egos flaring up in disagreement with Church practice. This would seem to be a direct challenge to the authority of the Church, and to the practice of subsidiarity. It bodes poorly for unity in the faith.
 
Reverence is independent of any combination of mode of receiving/clothing worn. Reverence is a matter of the heart. … Reverence is in the heart.
Screwtape’s fourth letter makes a marvelous case for the externals. That is, Screwtape is dead set against them, which is enough to recommend physically lowering ourselves before the Lord.
 
While I intend no disrespect or malice to earlier posters, the harmony of external and internal signs is integral to Catholic Christianity - that is why we have Sacraments, defined by the Baltimore Catechism as an “outward sign of an inward reality.”

I think it also relevant to note that when Communion is received standing, the USCCB norms include bowing before reception of the Sacrament. So while Communion received standing is allowed in the US, it is not supposed to be a fast food lineup: dropping to one’s knees may not be compulsory, but that does not mean one should not still show reverence for the Real Presence of the Lord of the Universe in His Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity.
 
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