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It’s not a comment one way or another, I follow Katie Hopkins and many others on twitter and a number of opposing views…

She comments a lot on South Africa for the current troubles I gather. I won’t link up. I find nothing wrong with Katie. If I can say it, I’d urge others to see what she has to say.
 
We find these drawbacks with everyone, Katie said this, Tommy Robinson did this, Waters said this. I don’t know the exact context Katie said that in, that might change the perception of just tossing this out there. Likewise, Tommy or I think his real last name might be Lennon? I"m not sure, I know he has another name but yes, in his younger years, he clearly was out for some “aggro” as they say, a sort of hooligan. He does articulate his position well. I heard him on the radio once, it was not some wild discourse he was saying but talking about real things.

If we had some non-fringe, mainstream politicians and celebrities too, guess what? I am sure I can find things I disagree with them on as well.

I don’t know if it is True or False, I saw something about the Dalai Lama receiving monies from the CIA, maybe even a salary. I’m sorry, I am not concerned with that.

I’ve heard the old Tibet was a very regimented society, from the top well-to-do to the poorest. We can always find criticisms.
 
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The Dalai Lama is mentioned in post # 195, so he is pertinent to this thread. I think he has been mentioned a few times in the last few days here in fact.

Also, Boris Johnson, we could mention him, well, it sounds like he is getting a divorce, so, nobody is perfect.

More recently, Katie Hopkins has talked about “Christian values” and apparently, she is off to Poland.
 
Tangentially related, now, a study came out:

www.theguardian.com

White people make up largest proportion of British terror arrests

People recorded as Asian do not make up largest proportion for first time in 13 years, data shows
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The figures to begin with are relatively small to begin with. I believe there were less than 400 arrests in the UK for 2017 to begin with. And yes, those who were arrested in some cases may have committed thought crimes, written something nasty on the internet, which I understand can be a crime in the UK.

So, is this related? Well, this is a thread on migration so I would say yes.

Probably my last post for this thread… at least for the time being.
 
For the sake of calibration, what is your opinion of…
  1. Douglas Murray
  2. Peter Hitchens
  3. Jacob Rees-Mogg
  4. Maajid Nawaz
  5. Sadiq Khan
 
HarryStotle said:
For the sake of calibration, what is your opinion of…
  1. Douglas Murray
  2. Peter Hitchens
  3. Jacob Rees-Mogg
  4. Maajid Nawaz
  5. Sadiq Khan
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Let alone Corbyn, we’ve all heard about him and that’s the head of the party.

Which might be important to say, Katie, Robinson and these others are sort of a part of a movement. So, personal flaws will not always be of some great importance to a lot of people.
 
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I see some of those from Northern Ireland per politicians may be called on the fringe or one might say, “look this person is anti-Catholic”; on the other hand, I’ve seen some of these Northern Irish being very pro-life. Is being pro-life or pro-choice a deal breaker? I would find it to be a central flaw with anyone, if they were basically pro-choice. That would leave a lot of politicians out, so I’d vote for the next best thing if that was the choice.

If one votes for abortion enabling politicians, I think one is doing worse, than some of those criticized here.

One is supporting a movement and maybe it’s populism. Others can quibble with the term but individual flaws often are not going to be that important. One is voting for or supporting what the candidate or other stands for.
 
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And yes, those who were arrested in some cases may have committed thought crimes, written something nasty on the internet, which I understand can be a crime in the UK.
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Now the focus of the South Yorkshire police on “non-crime hate” reporting is beginning to make sense…

Start at about 1:20

It appears to be an attempt to gin up the supposed “hate crimes” of whites so the charting looks more “balanced.”
 

Italy’s Matteo Salvini infuriated the EU’s most senior foreign minister by declaring that Italy needs more children, not more Africans “to replace the children we’re not having”.​

Speaking at a conference on the European migrant crisis in Vienna, the dynamic League (Lega) leader, who became Italy’s deputy prime minister and minister of the interior after anti-establishment populists triumphed at the polls in the recent elections, said he disagreed with EU politicians “[who] say that we need immigration because the population of Europe is getting older”.

“I have a completely different viewpoint,” he said. “I believe that I’m in government in order to see that our young people have the number of children that they used to a few years ago, and not to transplant the best of Africa’s youth to Europe.”

Salvini’s remarks flustered nearby Jean Asselborn, who muttered “blah, blah, blah” while the Italian was speaking.

The 69-year-old Luxembourger, who is the EU’s longest-serving foreign minister — having been in post since 2004 — has previously complained that anti-mass migration parties which want to “protect Christianity” and refuse to “open the door” to Arabic-speaking Muslim migrants will “destroy Europe” with their strong border policies.

more…

www.breitbart.com

Salvini: 'We Need to Have More Children, Not Africans to Replace Them'

Matteo Salvini infuriated the EU's most senior foreign minister by declaring Italy needs more children, not Africans "to replace children we're not having".
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Robinson is a patriot to the UK, yes, he could be faking it I suppose.

Would one think that your posts show patriotism to the UK?
 
British adjective

uk /ˈbrɪt.ɪʃ/ us /ˈbrɪt̬.ɪʃ/



belonging to or relating to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland or its people:

He’s got a British passport.
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British

1. belonging to or relating to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern…
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I understand, one does not vote in British elections, nor pay taxes in the United Kingdom nor have a British passport.

Also, we determined Tommy Robinson likely has Irish background, so is he Irish or British? Anyway, I hope we can show all of the charity and compassion over immigrants but it does affect Brits personally.

It may be hysteria, some of the writing is, to say, Brits or Americans for that matter, could be the minority in their own country at some point… because of immigration. One might say, it is just a concern, a valid concern.

I read this morning an article, the Ed Hussain article in the Daily Telegraph…talking about the preacher Choudary who is set for release soon:
…he will be free to be an activist in a country with a Labour Party leader who, like Islamist extremists, seems to abhor the West,
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Whether one loves or loathes their country, if they got into a scuffle with the police, that is wrong. I believe sometimes, getting into a scuffle with the Old Bill can be as minor as pushing someone.
 
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Can you supply a link to support that? I thought I read somewhere she did become a British citizen.
 
Dr. Gottfried Curio of the AfD (Alternative für Deutschland, Alternative for Germany) speaking in the Bundestag about Chancellor Merkel’s immigration policies.
 
National Conversation on Immigration

The National Conversation on Immigration is the biggest-ever public consultation on immigration and integration.

Immigration has remained one of the most salient and divisive issues for the public in recent years, and a factor in many voters’ decisions in the EU referendum. Leaving the EU presents an opportunity to reform Britain’s immigration policy: to address public concerns about immigration and put in place a system that works for employers, is fair to migrants and receiving communities and commands public trust and support. But we believe that this confidence cannot be fully restored without engaging the public in a debate about their views and concerns, and what policies we should now put in place.
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