Okay first of all I never said we had to do something to receive Grace. We both agree it is a free gift from God. I said and I will repeat we can LOSE grace. Fall from grace as they say.
Who says? Show me in God’s Word where it says we can fall from Grace.
Here is the thing, You can answer it for me maybe, how can a person sin against God and not fall from Grace?
If you had read what I posted already, you would have seen God’s answer to this question - not MY answer. Here it is again:
“Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we[a]have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now
stand.” (Romans 5:1)
“For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.” (Romans 5:17)
“The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” (Romans 5:20)
"What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection. For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with,[a] that we should no longer be slaves to sin— because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God." (Romans 6:1-10
Do you see what I am saying. Now sure you are correct if we do not sin, we are good to go.
I didn’t say that. Do you only count big sins as sin? Did you make it through the day without expounding on the truth a bit? Were you impatient with the lady at the checkout counter? Did you not have time for a stranger? Was every waking thought totally pure and clean? Until you come to an understanding that ALL sin is sin, you will never grasp what Jesus did for YOU, Rinnie. His death and resurrection.
But do you know anyone who does not sin? So lets kinda make this easy then I will explain, Lets start with how can we sin against God, and still get into heaven, What does the bible say we must do.(?)
Believe on the One Who washed our sins away.
Does the bible say don’t worry about that sin, or does it say we must do something. Think about what I am asking. Does Jesus or does he not say we must DO something if we sin.
This is the question of someone still living under the law. Oh, you may not be Jewish, but you are still in bondage. You have yet to accept the perfect and complete work of our Lord’s death and resurrection, and you are trying to buy or work your way into Heaven. Or, are you prepared to pluck your eye out if it offends you?
(Romans 8:1) “There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus”
We are sinless in the eyes of God the Father
through Christ. So what are you doing? Spitting on His perfect gift? Saying “it’s not perfect - I have to DO something”, putting your dirty hands on what is already finished? I apologize for being blunt, but if I feel this way, imagine how Christ feels.
One other question, and take your time, Where does Jesus say that by his death on the cross he has paid for ours sins and then say so sin all you want. OR does scripture say by his death he has paid for our sins, but sin no more?
Again, I would like to hear your definition of sin. I got a bit angry writing this because I think you won’t listen. Now, God might call that “righteous anger” or He might not and it would be sin. I am 51 years old and growing in the Lord daily, but I can’t get through a day without sinning having walked with Him since I was a child. And I’ll keep sinning and growing until the day I die. But Praise God! He accounts me righteous through the Blood of Jesus Christ.
"Therefore, since a promise remains of entering
His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it…
Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience. For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come
boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need."
