Yes,reparative therapy may be counterproductive as it does not address the deep seated psychological problems as well as a possible gross hormonal abnormality in utero. These unfortunate people do not chose this attraction but they DO chose to act on it when they engage in acts of mutual masturbation and sodomy. That is not love but lust. True love is self sacrificing and humble.
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Suicide is not limited to gay teens and there is no evidence that the therapy caused the young man to kill himself.He may have had a depressive disorder that was not properly treated. Compassion is very important but also condoning genital acts of masturbation under the guise of love is hardly the way to solve the rampant rise of a pro sodomy society that hides under the guise of “freedom of sexual expression”
Sorry, not true. Conversion therapy has existed from the time of Jesus:
I do not consider myself unfortunate and just as with heterosexual relations, there is love and self-sacrifice in many same-sex relationships. As Cardinal Erdo wrote about same-sex unions in the midterm report from the Synod on the Family, “it has to be noted that there are cases in which mutual aid to the point of sacrifice constitutes a precious support in the life of the partners.”
thanks for the interesting link
That is merely a preliminary document as Pope Francis has clearly stated he is not out to change doctrine or the teachings of the catechism but to help people overcome their sins. The bible nor the catechism makes any distinction between committed homosexual relations or casual. They are all disordered and must be rejected in order to reach Christian perfection.
Yes, a depressive disorder stemming from that pathetic excuse for therapy.
No one has claimed that people are unable to stop engaging in gay sex which is what that passage is about.
At the same time you need to remember that engaging in sex with your partner is a sin, loving him is not.
Neither the Bible nor the Catechism make a distinction between committed homosexual relations or casual because they aren’t talking about relationships, they are talking about sexual acts.
The passage in 1 Corinthians does not say anything about “sodomites” and the concept of “sodomy” as a sexual sin did not even exist before the 11th century when it was first used by the Catholic theologian Peter Damian. The Greek word used in Paul is “arsenokoitai” which appears to have been invented by Paul since it is not known in any Greek text before him. It is made up of the Greek words “arsen” which means “man” and “koitai” which means “beds.” It’s exact meaning is unknown. It could hardly have been intended by Paul to refer to sexual activity between males since he would have used the standard Greek word for that which was “paiderasste.”
How does this follow the teachings of Jesus Christ? God loves us all equally and “rejects” none of His children.
I did not write relationship i wrote relations as in sexual relations
Emily,I am offering info from the Catechism. God does not reject His children but does reject sinful behavior.The bible and Church have always viewed homosexual sex as very disordered and depraved.A very clear distinction is made between the person and their actions though.
Of course I’m not a Catholic so I’m not bound to believe that sexual relations with my partner are a sin. The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) to which I belong has reached no consensus on this issue and welcomes those (including clergy) who are in committed, monogamous same-sex relationships. The ELCA has decided to leave this issue to the individual conscience of its members.
So why comment on a Catholic forum? To us the behavior itself is an abomination though i do not want to presume how you achieve orgasm.It is impossible for two people of the same sex to use their sexual faculties in a normal way.
You don’t have to be a Catholic to comment in this forum, do you?
No,you do not but to promote mortal sin is quite offensive. You may have an opinion but there are many other forums that welcome that behavior.You don’t have to be a Catholic to comment in this forum, do you?
I’m not promoting anything. I was just responding to Joie de Vivre who was addressing me and reminding me that I must consider same-sex relations a sin. I’m just giving my own opinion and you are free to disagree as you have.