Ever thought of plastic surgery?

[gardenswithkids]

Life is about choices and sacrifices. We women sacrifice our body’s asthetic appearance to create life and there is no more beautiful sacrifice IMO.

Have you ever thought about the sacrifice we make of our bodies for the sake of our children during the words of the consecration? “This is my body, which is given up for you.”

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Serap, with or without kids, you’d still be in your forties. Forty isn’t twenty. I want to look younger than my real age too, but that’s really hard to do when a grown man in his early twenties calls me, “Mom.” (Who is that guy—and why did he give me stretch marks on my previously perfect abdomen?) I know, I know, I look much younger on the internet. Discussing my two year old helps keep my posts looking more youthful.

 

[Married39]

Debora123:

We agree with you absolutely that any procedure should be done after a woman is done having children and only if it is affordable. We won’t go in great debt when or if she decides to go for surgery.

How big do you want to go?

My wife is currently a 36C but she is insecure due to sagging so she is looking at a full D or DD so they don’t look too fake. If you have this when your kids are young, (ours are 1 and 4), they won’t know their mother has done a procedure.

We find it weird when some women have older children and decide to get work done especially if the daughter or son is much older and sees their mother change her look. To me it opens the door for them to be insecure with their look. Just my opinion.

 

[Serap]

Have you ever thought about the sacrifice we make of our bodies for the sake of our children during the words of the consecration? “This is my body, which is given up for you.”

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Serap, with or without kids, you’d still be in your forties. Forty isn’t twenty. I want to look younger than my real age too, but that’s really hard to do when a grown man in his early twenties calls me, “Mom.” (Who is that guy—and why did he give me stretch marks on my previously perfect abdomen?) I know, I know, I look much younger on the internet. Discussing my two year old helps keep my posts looking more youthful.

I personally think a woman can look beautiful at any age and resisting facial plastic procedures can really help a woman age more gracefully.

French women (as an example) have aged well since the beginning of time and it’s all down to lifestyle choices. They walk everywhere and eat small portions. They maintain the same weight their whole life. They are not out getting plastic surgery like us North Americanos

I’m going to be 41 in 2 weeks and it sucks to get old, but it’s part of life. I think we’d all like to look 20 forever. I don’t know of any man or woman who enjoys aging (the physical part of it)…they do however, love being more mature and comfortable with themself.

 

[Mary_Gail_36]

Slightly off topic…there is an old episode of All in the Family where Edith becomes insecure about Archie’s feelings toward her.

She tells him something to the effect that she feels old, and that she looks old.

Archie, in one of his sweeter moments, tells her that her face still is beautiful. He then ponders if our eyes start to get weaker around the same time that our faces start getting lines and wrinkles, and how perhaps God designed it like that, so that we would always see our beloved as beautiful.

I thought that was a really sweet tv moment.

 

[Serap]

Slightly off topic…there is an old episode of All in the Family where Edith becomes insecure about Archie’s feelings toward her.

She tells him something to the effect that she feels old, and that she looks old.

Archie, in one of his sweeter moments, tells her that her face still is beautiful. He then ponders if our eyes start to get weaker around the same time that our faces start getting lines and wrinkles, and how perhaps God designed it like that, so that we would always see our beloved as beautiful.

I thought that was a really sweet tv moment.

I love that show!!! It was so ahead of its time

 

[gardenswithkids]

I personally think a woman can look beautiful at any age and resisting facial plastic procedures can really help a woman age more gracefully.

French women (as an example) have aged well since the beginning of time and it’s all down to lifestyle choices. They walk everywhere and eat small portions. They maintain the same weight their whole life. They are not out getting plastic surgery like us North Americanos

I’m going to be 41 in 2 weeks and it sucks to get old, but it’s part of life. I think we’d all like to look 20 forever. I don’t know of any man or woman who enjoys aging (the physical part of it)…they do however, love being more mature and comfortable with themself.

I agree. Women can be beautiful at any age, but it’s beauty in a different way. Just like a baby is cute in a different way from a toddler, and a toddler is cute in a different way from a kindergartener, and a kindergartener is cute in a different way from a ten year old. A forty year old woman isn’t beautiful in the same way as a twenty year old.

Trying to look like a perpetual twenty-something can make a woman look creepy instead of beautiful. I remember when I was younger being shocked by some women when I got up close to them or when they turned around. :bigyikes: It helps to remember that we don’t want someone thinking we look great from a distance only to be repulsed when they get closer. Old people trying to look younger didn’t look beautiful–they looked like something from the Haunted Mansion at Disneyland!

Elderly women in the classy department store that I worked in–many of them were still quite beautiful! I’m aiming to age gracefully, not to stop aging. I had an aunt who looked twenty years younger than she was–but she still looked like an old woman. She was an eighty year old who could pass for a sixty year old. Think long term. I can look twenty years younger when I’m eighty without seeming creepy, but if I try looking twenty years younger when in my forties, I may scare small children.

 

[hurting]

This thread is making me depressed!!

What happened to Catholics growing old gracefully, sacrificing and being open to life. I keep thinking about my mom and how she was kind of fat (but not near obese) after her six babies. Her hair was greying too.
I have fond memories of when all her lady friends would come over for tea. All of them had had many babies, were somewhat overweight but not obese, and their hair was greying.
They were just so happy to get together and chat! They all brought their children along so we could play together while they talked.

My dad would always tell my mom that he loved her just how she was! He told her that he liked that she was soft and had grey hair.

I am 53 now and I am going to grow old gracefully without plastic surgery! My hair is thinning, and I have wrinkles around my eyes. My body is not fat but it is not that toned either. My dh likes it that way. When I stopped worrying about getting old it was freeing.

And yes, our bodies will be transfigured into glorified bodies when we finally hear, “Well done my child, you have ran the race and won the battle!”

Finally! I read through four pages of posts before even one (this one) alluded to the vanity inherent in all of this. If you have money for tummy tucks or Botox or whatever that is not medically necessary - please donate it to someone who really needs surgery to correct truly devastating deformities (e.g., cleft palate).

 

[Debora123]

Finally! I read through four pages of posts before even one (this one) alluded to the vanity inherent in all of this. If you have money for tummy tucks or Botox or whatever that is not medically necessary - please donate it to someone who really needs surgery to correct truly devastating deformities (e.g., cleft palate).

We need to give at least 10% of our income to charity.

We are not required, however, to give away all the money we’d spend on lucrative/optional things such as plastic surgery, name brand clothes, expensive vacations. We most certainly can, and it would be very nice if we did, but there is no requirement to do so.

 

[Serap]

We need to give at least 10% of our income to charity.

We are not required, however, to give away all the money we’d spend on lucrative/optional things such as plastic surgery, name brand clothes, expensive vacations. We most certainly can, and it would be very nice if we did, but there is no requirement to do so.

BAH…in Canada nearly 40% of my pay goes to the government, so I’m donating a heck of a lot more to social programs in my country (than I can afford!!!)

 

[Debora123]

BAH…in Canada nearly 40% of my pay goes to the government, so I’m donating a heck of a lot more to social programs in my country (than I can afford!!!)

40%!!!

Sheesh! With taxes like that, who needs to give to charities?! ?

 

[onmyknees]

Finally! I read through four pages of posts before even one (this one) alluded to the vanity inherent in all of this. If you have money for tummy tucks or Botox or whatever that is not medically necessary - please donate it to someone who really needs surgery to correct truly devastating deformities (e.g., cleft palate).

 

[underacloud]

I’ve considered plastic surgery.

Not for myself…for my wife of course.

 

[hurting]

We need to give at least 10% of our income to charity.

We are not required, however, to give away all the money we’d spend on lucrative/optional things such as plastic surgery, name brand clothes, expensive vacations. We most certainly can, and it would be very nice if we did, but there is no requirement to do so.

You (we) aren’t required to give anything to charity - you (we) are called to give from your (our) core, not from your (our) surplus (“give till it hurts”). Plastic surgery for most of the reasons offered in this thread is the height of vanity.

 

[Serap]

Finally! I read through four pages of posts before even one (this one) alluded to the vanity inherent in all of this. If you have money for tummy tucks or Botox or whatever that is not medically necessary - please donate it to someone who really needs surgery to correct truly devastating deformities (e.g., cleft palate).

yeah but life is about balance too. if you have money for it, why not?

you can still donate and have procedures done.

I spent $1,500 on veneers for my front teeth. Should I have donated that money and not deserve a nice smile? I had a bad fall at age 8 and ruined both teeth…now I have a nice smile.

 

[Serap]

You (we) aren’t required to give anything to charity - you (we) are called to give from your (our) core, not from your (our) surplus (“give till it hurts”). Plastic surgery for most of the reasons offered in this thread is the height of vanity.

I disagree. Sometimes it’s b/c a person wants to feel good about themself. If they feel good about themself, it will shine through in their relationships and life.

Like I said, it’s all about balance. You can give give give and be very unhappy and your relationships will suffer b/c you are miserable. OR you can strike a balance in your life where you maintain a sense of “pampering once’s self” AND help those in need the best you can.

 

[Debora123]

You (we) aren’t required to give anything to charity - you (we) are called to give from your (our) core, not from your (our) surplus (“give till it hurts”). Plastic surgery for most of the reasons offered in this thread is the height of vanity.

I guess “required” was the wrong word. “Expected to” would be best.

I disagree that plastic surgery is all about the sin of vanity.

 

[Debora123]

I disagree. Sometimes it’s b/c a person wants to feel good about themself. If they feel good about themself, it will shine through in their relationships and life.

Like I said, it’s all about balance. You can give give give and be very unhappy and your relationships will suffer b/c you are miserable. OR you can strike a balance in your life where you maintain a sense of “pampering once’s self” AND help those in need the best you can.

 

[Rkdajr]

then your post was a wee bit inappropriate since victims of cancer go through the procedure you mentioned and it is nothing to joke about. Just my thoughts. Not sure why you wish to derail this thread in an inappropriate direction.

This has been a very good discussion so far. let’s keep it that way please.

Hi Serap, I wasn’t trying to make a joke about victims of cancer, not at all. I was just expressing my desire for surgery like everyone else even if it sounded odd. There may be others who want the same thing as me and it would be interesting to see if there is anyone out there like me.

Finally! I read through four pages of posts before even one (this one) alluded to the vanity inherent in all of this. If you have money for tummy tucks or Botox or whatever that is not medically necessary - please donate it to someone who really needs surgery to correct truly devastating deformities (e.g., cleft palate).

I used to feel the same way, and I still kind of do, but surely you can have sympathy for those who would like to correct a small defect or something like that?

I’ve considered plastic surgery.

Not for myself…for my wife of course.

How come? Unless, were you joking?

 

[Serap]

Hi Serap, I wasn’t trying to make a joke about victims of cancer, not at all. I was just expressing my desire for surgery like everyone else even if it sounded odd. There may be others who want the same thing as me and it would be interesting to see if there is anyone out there like me.

It is a very unusual desire since most women opt for “twin peaks”. I’m sure you could have the procedure if you really want it. I know of women who have had sex change operations and this included that procedure. That’s all I personally know of.

Good luck to you!

Thanks for explaining your position.

 

[Rkdajr]

It is a very unusual desire since most women opt for “twin peaks”. I’m sure you could have the procedure if you really want it. I know of women who have had sex change operations and this included that procedure. That’s all I personally know of.

Good luck to you!

Thanks for explaining your position.

Thank you for being accepting As a kid it was unusual to me that women would want surgery to enhance them, hehe. I am not transgender, but yes, this procedure is usually part of their transition. I believe genital reconstruction surgery is immoral, but other things seem okay to me. People tell me it would be mutilating my body, but I don’t see how it is different from getting a breast reduction or breast augmentation.

You (we) aren’t required to give anything to charity - you (we) are called to give from your (our) core, not from your (our) surplus (“give till it hurts”). Plastic surgery for most of the reasons offered in this thread is the height of vanity.

I mostly see women who would like to get some of their original shape back after pregnancy, what’s wrong with that?