Ever thought of plastic surgery?

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I am turning 41. Last year when I turned 40, I hit a mini life crisis and went to see a plastic surgeon who basically sent me home :o I was lucky to find a doctor who is ethical. He laughed at me and told me that I was gorgeous and I should go home.

He did say that I could do botox if I wanted to (as a preventative measure).

I look at pictures of women who have had plastic surgery and honestly, I think mostly they look terrible! Pillow face comes to mind.

Then I read a recent article that botox used in mice actually caused muscle attrophy in the face AND other muscles in their body that were untreated. This would accelerate the aging process and cause extra bone loss.:eek:

Also, in the face, the muscle atrophy would lead to quicker bone loss and hence, an older, but wrinkle free face…think Nicole Kidman…It is scary that 20 something year olds are injecting their face with stuff that actually will cause them to age faster.

I am guilty of the sin of vanity :o I told my husband about my visit and he laughed at me.
 
I had a reduction mammaplasty eight years ago that tremendously improved the quality of my life in so many ways; it reduced neck and shoulder pain; it increased my mobility; it enabled to me exercise in ways I couldn’t before; it enabled me to wear pret-a-porter tops that fit me properly; and it greatly increased my comfort while I sleep. When I came out of the anesthesia in the recovering room, my very first thought was that I was lying on my back yet I could still breathe. I literally cried with relief.

I have two scars on my forehead from childhood accidents that I toyed with getting minimized/eliminated. But age has brought a certain Laissez-faire attitude and magnanimity about my body and how it looks. I’ve accepted my scars and sags and wrinkles as symbols of a life well lived; if others have issues with them they need to d*mned well keep their opinions to themselves.

Movie stars and celebrities, on the other hand, have a vested interest in manipulating their bodies to meet sets of standards that don’t apply to us mere mortals. For these men and women, their faces and their bodies are their industry, their livelihoods. Their jobs, and the jobs of the dozens and dozens of people who work directly for them, rely on their ability to hit and keep a certain “look.” I don’t think this is necessarily a good thing, and I truly abhor the horrible body image messages it sends to children and teenagers, but I do on some level understand why they’re doing it.

I think it was probably a good thing the plastic surgeon you went to did not work on you. I’d be more than a little creeped out if a physician told me of any personal, aesthetic judgments he’d made about my body. And the fact that he dismissed you laughingly, telling you to go home because you’re gorgeous, sounds more than a little patronizing to me.

Luna
 
I heard top make up artist Bobbi Brown say regarding her opinion on plastic surgery that it doesn’t make you look younger, it just makes you look like you’ve had work done.

Surgery to correct a defect is fine, but I have to agree with Bobbi Brown on most instances.
 
Don’t do Botox! It ruins your face. Just look at the pictures of the Hollywood female stars that have had it - they looked better without it and would have done better had they had a good old-fashioned face lift.

I know someone who had Botox put in her face. As soon as I saw her, I knew she had it done. As far as I am concerned, it was a waste (she was only in her forties at the time) and it did change her face.
 
Look at Melanie Griffith for an example. And if she isn’t bad enough, look at Cher. Scary!!!
 
I personally do not understand why anyone would go through surgery for a non-medical reason that will not relieve any issues that truly are causing pain for the person. I had to have both my legs realigned when I was 16 (involved cutting 5 bones and realigning them) and then hardware removal when I was 19. Ever since then I just don’t get why people go through the pain and side effects of anesthesia just to look “better.” But then again, I’ve experienced major surgery and the recovery that follows :).
 
how about Madonna :eek:

It worries me too b/c my daughter will be a youth in this new era of botox and injections. It’s a sad state of affairs if you ask me.

We are getting more and more obsessed with perfection.

The U.K. has banned skin cream adds that use photo-shop. Good for them!!!
 
Luna_Lovecraft said:
I had a reduction mammaplasty eight years ago that tremendously improved the quality of my life in so many ways; it reduced neck and shoulder pain; it increased my mobility; it enabled to me exercise in ways I couldn’t before; it enabled me to wear pret-a-porter tops that fit me properly; and it greatly increased my comfort while I sleep. When I came out of the anesthesia in the recovering room, my very first thought was that I was lying on my back yet I could still breathe. I literally cried with relief.

I have two scars on my forehead from childhood accidents that I toyed with getting minimized/eliminated. But age has brought a certain Laissez-faire attitude and magnanimity about my body and how it looks. I’ve accepted my scars and sags and wrinkles as symbols of a life well lived; if others have issues with them they need to d*mned well keep their opinions to themselves.

Movie stars and celebrities, on the other hand, have a vested interest in manipulating their bodies to meet sets of standards that don’t apply to us mere mortals. For these men and women, their faces and their bodies are their industry, their livelihoods. Their jobs, and the jobs of the dozens and dozens of people who work directly for them, rely on their ability to hit and keep a certain “look.” I don’t think this is necessarily a good thing, and I truly abhor the horrible body image messages it sends to children and teenagers, but I do on some level understand why they’re doing it.

I think it was probably a good thing the plastic surgeon you went to did not work on you. I’d be more than a little creeped out if a physician told me of any personal, aesthetic judgments he’d made about my body. And the fact that he dismissed you laughingly, telling you to go home because you’re gorgeous, sounds more than a little patronizing to me.

Luna
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Breast reduction is more of a health measure than an aesthetic measure. Must have been nice to feel more free 👍

I just worry that Hollywood pillow faces are going to be considered normal by the time my daughter is a teenager.
 
Serap said:
how about Madonna :eek:

It worries me too b/c my daughter will be a youth in this new era of botox and injections. It’s a sad state of affairs if you ask me.

We are getting more and more obsessed with perfection.

The U.K. has banned skin cream adds that use photo-shop. Good for them!!!
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Yes, I noticed a few years ago that people were more and more obsessed with perfection - bodily perfection, perfect lawns, perfect gardens, perfect looking homes…

I chalk it up to the more immoral within we have become, the more obsessed we are with outward perfection to compensate…“whitened sepulchres”.
 
I’m hoping I age “gracefully” and if not, OH WELL! :rolleyes:

Never gave it a thought.
 
I don’t think I would ever consider a face lift or anything like that. But if I am successful in keeping my lost weight off, I would consider getting my upper arms contoured. It would be great to be able to wear something sleeveless in the hot TX summer time.
 
Serap said:
Breast reduction is more of a health measure than an aesthetic measure. Must have been nice to feel more free 👍

I just worry that Hollywood pillow faces are going to be considered normal by the time my daughter is a teenager.
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I genuinely worry about this too. I feel like my girls will “need” breast augmentations like kids in my childhood needed braces. Makes me a little nauseous thinking that breasts are just “objects” (I won’t get into that–it’s in a thread on the ‘I love boobies’ breast cancer slogans)

But the one that I don’t get: I just truly do not understand the lip implant/injection things. Whenever a celebrity gets their lips done I throw my hands up and ask, “Am I the only one who thinks that looks weird?” Like, tummy tucks, breast implants (not insanely big ones), I can understand them. But the lips just look freaky crazy to me. I have an actual adverse reaction to the aesthetics of swollen lips. Blehhh. . .
 
sj2 said:
I genuinely worry about this too. I feel like my girls will “need” breast augmentations like kids in my childhood needed braces. Makes me a little nauseous thinking that breasts are just “objects” (I won’t get into that–it’s in a thread on the ‘I love boobies’ breast cancer slogans)

But the one that I don’t get: I just truly do not understand the lip implant/injection things. Whenever a celebrity gets their lips done I throw my hands up and ask, “Am I the only one who thinks that looks weird?” Like, tummy tucks, breast implants (not insanely big ones), I can understand them. But the lips just look freaky crazy to me. I have an actual adverse reaction to the aesthetics of swollen lips. Blehhh. . .
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and the chicken breast cheeks…it looks awful.
 
I’ve always wanted to get a nose job.

It isn’t something that can happen anytime soon though, not until we have more money.
 
I couldnt put myself through surgery to change my appearance.

I had 10 operations in 10 years (including 2 c-sections) and I know how hard major surgery is to recover from.

Mind you after 2 sections my stomach is a bit of a mess, I wouldn’t mind a magic wand to fix it!

Having said that, if someone feels that a part of their body is holding them back or making them incredibly self conscious then I would never judge their decision to change that.
 
I had 4 kids close together. Breast fed all 4 kids. It does a number to your body. After my 4th pregnancy, I joined a gym and got back to my pre-pregnancy size. I decide to get a tummy tuck, muscle repair and breast lift. I don’t regret doing it. I love having my body looking like it did before the kids.

I would not do anything to my face. Face lifts look fake to me. I would rather age gracefully.
 
cviolette said:
I had 4 kids close together. Breast fed all 4 kids. It does a number to your body. After my 4th pregnancy, I joined a gym and got back to my pre-pregnancy size. I decide to get a tummy tuck, muscle repair and breast lift. I don’t regret doing it. I love having my body looking like it did before the kids.

I would not do anything to my face. Face lifts look fake to me. I would rather age gracefully.
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You had a “mommy make-over” 😃 I’ve thought about that too.
 
cviolette said:
I had 4 kids close together. Breast fed all 4 kids. It does a number to your body. After my 4th pregnancy, I joined a gym and got back to my pre-pregnancy size. I decide to get a tummy tuck, muscle repair and breast lift. I don’t regret doing it. I love having my body looking like it did before the kids.

I would not do anything to my face. Face lifts look fake to me. I would rather age gracefully.
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Tummy tuck sounds extremely painful. I’ll probably do a breast augmentation once I’m done having kids, and maybe some lipo.

What’s a “muscle repair?”
 
Debora123 said:
Tummy tuck sounds extremely painful. I’ll probably do a breast augmentation once I’m done having kids, and maybe some lipo.

What’s a “muscle repair?”
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whan ur preggers, your muscles can separate on your abdoment making your stomach appear to be sicking out. No matter how much exercise you do, the tummy looks fat.

me thinks her surgery was quite painful, but I bet the results were awesome.
 
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