Evidence against Hydroxychloroquine

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LeafByNiggle

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Evidence continues to mount against President Trump’s favorite Covid-19 treatment, Hydroxychloroquine.
Research funded by the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia published yesterday:
BACKGROUND: Despite limited and conflicting data on the use of hydroxychloroquine in patients with Covid-19, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has authorized the emergency use of this drug when clinical trials are unavailable or infeasible. Hydroxychloroquine, alone or in combination with azithromycin, is being widely used in Covid-19 therapy based on anecdotal and limited observational evidence.

METHODS: We performed a retrospective analysis of data from patients hospitalized with confirmed SARSCoV-2 infection in all United States Veterans Health Administration medical centers until April 11, 2020. Patients were categorized based on their exposure to hydroxychloroquine alone (HC) or with azithromycin (HC+AZ) as treatments in addition to standard supportive management for Covid-19. The two primary outcomes were death and the need for mechanical ventilation. We determined the association between treatment and the primary outcomes using competing risk hazard regression adjusting for clinical characteristics via propensity scores. Discharge and death were taken into account as competing risks and subdistribution hazard ratios are presented.

RESULTS: A total of 368 patients were evaluated (HC, n=97; HC+AZ, n=113; no HC, n=158). Rates of death in the HC, HC+AZ, and no HC groups were 27.8%, 22.1%, 11.4%, respectively. Rates of ventilation in the HC, HC+AZ, and no HC groups were 13.3%, 6.9%, 14.1%, respectively. Compared to the no HC group, the risk of death from any cause was higher in the HC group (adjusted hazard ratio, 2.61; 95% CI, 1.10 to 6.17; P=0.03) but not in the HC+AZ group (adjusted hazard ratio, 1.14; 95% CI, 0.56 to 2.32; P=0.72). The risk of ventilation was similar in the HC group (adjusted hazard ratio, 1.43; 95% CI, 0.53 to 3.79; P=0.48) and in the HC+AZ group (adjusted hazard ratio, 0.43; 95% CI, 0.16 to 1.12; P=0.09), compared to the no HC group.

CONCLUSIONS: In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19. An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs
 
Evidence continues to mount against President Trump’s favorite Covid-19 treatment, Hydroxychloroquine.
you do realize that Trump was not the person to come up with the idea to use Hydroxychloroquine, dont you?
 
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LeafByNiggle:
Evidence continues to mount against President Trump’s favorite Covid-19 treatment, Hydroxychloroquine.
you do realize that Trump was not the person to come up with the idea to use Hydroxychloroquine, dont you?
He was the cheer-leader in chief, elevating Hydroxychloroquine to a level of popularity many times what it deserved. Not to mention that it has been all the rage among the die-hard Trump supporters in this forum.
 
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Whats your point, besides spewing your derision of all things Trump all over my computer screen? should a potential treatment not be investigated because someone you don’t like was cheering it on?
 
Whats your point,…should a potential treatment not be investigated because someone you don’t like was cheering it on?
Yes, and it was. But it should not be preferentially touted as much as Trump was touting it every chance he got. He hardly even mentioned Remdesivir, or any of the other treatments being mentioned. Trump made a big issue out of it, and now he owns that issue, for good or for ill.
 
Whats your point, besides spewing your derision of all things Trump all over my computer screen? should a potential treatment not be investigated because someone you don’t like was cheering it on?
Um, that’s what the OP’s article did. And it found that the treatment was wanting. Mind you it is not yet peer-reviewed, but neither as far as I can tell was the orignal work by Dr. Didier Raoult (France) recommending HC+AZ as treatment in the first place. It remains anecdotal.
 
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Whats your point,…should a potential treatment not be investigated because someone you don’t like was cheering it on?
Yes
I find it terribly sad that you let your extreme dislike for Trump get in the way a potential treatment for a pandemic. Decent people should all cheer a potential effective treatment.
But it should not be preferentially touted as much as Trump was touting it every chance he got. He hardly even mentioned Remdesivir, or any of the other treatments being mentioned. Trump made a big issue out of it, and now he owns that issue, for good or for ill.
Do you really believe Trump cheering one treatment prevented medical professionals from investigating other treatments or that those medical professionals are incapable of investigating Remdesivir, or any of the other treatments without Trump being involved? you really give the man too much credit. he is not that powerful.
Trump made a big issue out of it, and now he owns that issue, for good or for ill.
He owns cheering a potential treatment for a world wide pandemic? Wow, what a terrible thing.
 
Cheering is nice at a football game because it is a game.
A president speaking about a pandemic does harm cheering for cheering sake. With no mind at all about consequences of being wrong.
 
Honestly, I think it is that " those people are lesser creatures.
We eat pigs( and for in, Dogs? ). This is because we are people. And status is us and them a lesser thing, just the same.
The movie FAR AND AWAY has the idea expressed nicely. Nichole Kidman tells Tom Cruise," our blood isn’t even the same temperature."
 
And shortages of the meds for those who need it.
Trump is not forcing doctors to prescribe this. there is not a doctor in the country that prescribes anything simply because the president said it may work.
 
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And shortages of the meds for those who need it.
Trump is not forcing doctors to prescribe this. there is not a doctor in the country that prescribes anything simply because the president said it may work.
Oh, come on! Doctors do respond to what their patients clamor for. Otherwise why are the airwaves so full of advertisements to the general public for prescription medications?
 
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Lots of buying and selling because of Trump.
One of the TRUMP FALLACIES is to value his tweets as if he is," just a guy."
 
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