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FCEGM
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Precisely!
Evidence that Jesus is not GOD and should not be worshipped.
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Lance
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For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don’t believe, no proof is possible. I fear gurrato alaien is one of the latter.
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FCEGM
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No, God is simply demonstrating that the Godhead is not composed of the Father alone; thus the Son, Incarnate in the God-Man Jesus Christ, is to be worshipped since He, too, is God. Of course, if one keeps missing the meaning of the Trinity (One God in Three Divine Persons), one would misinterpret - as you did - what the divinely-inspired passage is teaching.
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Mannyfit75
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Jesus said during his trail. “I AM.” He also said before Abraham, I AM.
Jesus is also worshipped and he didn’t rebuke anyone from worshipping him.
Take a closer look at several passages in the Bible that shows Jesus is worshipped and that he is God.
Rev. 4:9-11; 5:8,12-14; 7:11-12 - both Jesus and the Father are worshiped. The Greek word for worship is “proskuneo” which always means the worship of God.
Matt. 2:2,11 - the magi who came to see the newborn Jesus came to worship Him.
Matt. 8:2 - a leper came to Jesus and worshiped Him without rebuke.
Matt. 14:33 - the apostles who were in the boat worshiped Jesus without rebuke.
Matt. 28:9 - Jesus’ disciples took His feet and worshiped Him without rebuke.
Matt. 28:17 - Jesus’ disciples saw Him and then worshiped Him.
Mark 5:6 - the man with the unclean spirit ran to Jesus and worshiped Him.
Luke 1:11 - Mary accepts Elizabeth’s declaration “the Mother of my Lord” = the Mother of my God (Elizabeth used the word “Adonai” which means “Lord God”).
Luke 24:52 - as Jesus ascended into heaven, the apostles worshiped Him.
John 9:38 - the blind man who was cured by Jesus worshiped Him.
John 20:28 - Jesus accepts Thomas’ statement “My Lord and my God!” Literally, “the Lord of me and the God of me!” (in Greek, “Ho Kurios mou kai ho Theos mou”).
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Corleone
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this shows no evidence of one not worshipping christ or god… It obviously about people saying they are one with God with there words but there actions do not… i hope this thing wasnt your idea mate
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mommyaprilj
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I say, believe what you will, the only person I have to answer for when I stand before Jesus is me, for what I have done, and believed. I have educated my children in the one true Faith, helped my fellow man, and prayed for your soul. You will have to answer for yourself.
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sara888
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The doctrine of the Trinity is believed by all Christian groups. Some groups profess to be Christian and do not believe in the Trinity, however, none of these groups are truly Christian because their various perversions of the gospel cause them to have, “a form of godliness but denying the power thereof” (II Timothy 3:5).
John 10:30
I and my Father are one
John 20:28
And Thomas answered and said unto him,
My Lord and my God.
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Marilena
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Jesus IS God, and to assume otherwise is blasphemy. The Bible has NOT been corrupted. The people who take words out of the Bible and put their own interpretation into it and take words out of it and add their own are guilty of altering God’s word, and read what the book of Apocalypse says about that, at the end of the Apocalypse read what it states about people who add or take away from the Bible. the Catholic Church has NEVER altered scripture to suit our belief. NEVER.
The jw’s have taken words out of the Bible and added their own, and interpreted it to suit their belief. Jesus Himself said " I and the Father are One" If He was not God, He would never have said it. Also, Thomas states in the book of Saint John: My Lord, and my God!" he never would’ve said that to Jesus if He was not God.
Be careful what you say lest you be guilty of blasphemy.
The jw’s have taken words out of the Bible and added their own, and interpreted it to suit their belief. Jesus Himself said " I and the Father are One" If He was not God, He would never have said it. Also, Thomas states in the book of Saint John: My Lord, and my God!" he never would’ve said that to Jesus if He was not God.
Be careful what you say lest you be guilty of blasphemy.
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Lance
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Too bad the forums were down for so long and when they came back up the April stuff was the latest. Now we are rehashing this trash. Mohammed was a false prophet who has caused more suffering in the world than anyone else I can think of.
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Mannyfit75
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Amen to that. Mohammed is a false prophet. Jesus is the last prophet. There are no prophet after him.
Jesus is Prophet, Priest, and King.
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LilyM
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Old thread, tired tired old argument which doesn’t even make any sense.
Best let sleeping anti-Catholics lie
Best let sleeping anti-Catholics lie
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Melanie01
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Amen to that LilyM,
read your Bible mate and you will see the fatuous nature of that lie.
read your Bible mate and you will see the fatuous nature of that lie.
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Crumpy
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Hit the road Jack and never come back no more,no more no more
No one can stop you from taking verses out of context and whipping them around whenever you care to. Didn’t Satan do that when he tempted Jesus in the desert?
Even Satan referred to Jesus as the Son of God, being confined to no mortal powers.
Mt 4:3 The tempter approached and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, command that these stones become loaves of bread.” NAB
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Will_Pick
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LOL, You call this EVIDENCE,what are you smoking ???
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LRThunder
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I think you misinterpreted what I was saying.
Then again, it has been long since this thread was posted on, I forgot what I said.
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Mr.Ex_Nihilo
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No. He’s saying he is God-- and this is why he’s good.
This is much the same way that Christ responded to the woman’s praising his mother in Luke 11:27, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.”
When Jesus responded with, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it”, he wasn’t saying that his mother wasn’t blessed. He was echoing Luke 1:42 that his mother was most blessed among women because she heard the word of God and obeyed it.
In other words, Jesus’ mother is not blessed simply because she gave birth to Jesus and nursed him-- although these things are very important in her filial relationship with Christ. Rather, Jesus’ mother is blessed as God fore-knew that she would hear and obey all things God required of her: ie., the Immaculate Conception.
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Riley259
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There are so many verses and accounts in the New Testament that confirm Jesus’s divinity that it is almost laughable that someone tries to deny it from the text. When the doubting apostle Thomas is shown the marks of the risen Christ, he exclaims “My Lord and my God” in reference to Jesus and Jesus Himself does not deny this. At one point Jesus says “Before Abraham I AM” which is a clear reference to His own divinity. At another point He says, “I and The Father are One” and the list goes on and on. Couple that with the myriad of writings from the Church Fathers that confirm their belief in His divinity and it’s not even a close argument. I’m sorry but the Koran is full of inconsistencies and go against direct historical evidence. For instance, the Koran says that Jesus wasn’t crucified but the historical evidence is overwhelming that He was. I respect Muslims belief in a monotheistic God and the same God of Abraham and the old prophets but no one else witnessed the events that Muhammed described whereas hundreds of both believers and nonbelievers were witnesses to the miracles and resurrection of Jesus. With all due respect, It’s not even a close call.
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lak611
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Somebody started another thread that is similar, the one about the priest who committed suicide. That poster also had some comment that Jesus did not know Judas would betray Him, and that poster claimed that Jesus made mistakes.Old thread, tired tired old argument which doesn’t even make any sense.
Best let sleeping anti-Catholics lie
There is plenty of evidence of Jesus’ divinity in the Bible. It looks like now that the forums are back, we don’t have hostile Protestants any more; now we just have hostile non-Christians!
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LilyM
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The poster on the priest-suicide thread is a Muslim who’s been around here for quite a while - keeps getting back in under different usernames and keeps getting himself banned for his efforts. Always manages to regurgitate a lot of the same stuff regardless of what the original topic of the thread may be.
Pity the fool.
Pity the fool.
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