Brother, I’m sorry to have offended you. I’m confused because I never considered this particular view of man’s origins as offering a means to approximate a date. I don’t understand why you think I’m from across the fence.
If you don’t accept that Adam was a historical person who committed an actual sin the guilt and stain of which is physically transmitted to all of us, his descendants, that IS against Church teaching! That’s the whole problem. Papal infallibility, Humani Generis and Pius XII statements regarding Adam which are extremely difficult to try and fit into scientific evidence now 54 years later.
Thanks Neithan, I wish I could’ve done that.
Neithan,
Someone recently redid the calendar and with the new information dated Adam around 10,000BC. I will see if I can locate that info. It was very interesting in any case.
That is not my understanding. The Church to my knowledge did not change or reverse the truths of Revelation.
Glad your back Brother, I would enjoy a discussion focused on Genesis in light of the sciences too. I promise to close down the photon torpedoes if you’ll deactivate your forcefields
Benadam said:Enterpretation of Genesis that may reconcile with evolution theories
my concept on Genesis looks like it breaks the rules but it doesn’t. As far as I know I can call it my concept.
It’s very worked out so in order to avoid writing a thesis I’ll just describe it in brief.
Christ is the head and what follows is His church the Body of Christ
when all is complete all of us will be him as one man
He will be all of us, all of us will be Him
this order is reversed in Genesis.
Adam is made as male-female and commanded to populate, subdue and rule. Not just the earth but the earth of his flesh as well. They are the body of Adam and will be embodied as one man once they have completed God’s command. which brings the faculties to fullfillment . This collective body of adam is in the image of God but makes it visible within the marital bond male-female and children, hence the command to populate.
at the point the body of Adam has the ability to say “IAM” (keeping in mind the singlemindedness they possoss as a body) as an individual, not just familial identity but true self awareness. when male-female establishes a collective **will **that can rule it’s earth because it is served by faculties that have subdued ‘their’ earth, God forms man out of the ‘dust’ ( them) of the earth and that collective will and soul is embodied in a single man also Adam. They are him he is them all of them as one man is adam.
That’s a thumbnail sketch.
I am open to criticism or suggestions as long as my brain is put into question…
I’ve been studying JPII theology of the body looking for flaws or gaps and it all seems to be working out so far.
I also suggest that there was no suitable helpmeet because Adam was looking amongst them. who to him would seem brutish but out of him a rib could be taken
it’s a given for me that God had to intervene supernaturally to insert a living soul ie: the faculties that distinguish animal souls from human souls. as it concerns time God intervenes according to the Scriptures when as it is termed ‘in the fullness of’
Yes, the body of Adam is the entire population of man. They are his members. In reference to their ability to imagine an existence that doesn’t include them. When the collective intellect is capable of apprehending the eternal reality of death, that would be the time I suggest Adam is formed out of them.
Adam is being the first man in this model. Where in it do you see multiple Adams?
1)Adam is the entire population of man
It’s a good book, but not professionally published, kind of a self-published job but worth having.