Evolution-Creation?

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Just a wee reminder to all that the Church has spoken in this issue, God Bless you all

www.newadvent.org/cathen/07310a.htm

Finally the Biblical Commission in a decree issued 30 June, 1909, denies the existence of any solid foundation for the various exegetical systems devised and defended with a show of science to exclude the literal, historical sense of the first three chapters of Genesis; in particular, it forbids the teaching of the view that the said three chapters of Genesis contain, not accounts of things which have really happened, but either fables derived from mythologies and the cosmogonies of ancient peoples, and by the sacred author expurgated of all error of polytheism and adapted to monotheistic doctrine, or allegories and symbols destitute of any foundation of objective reality and proposed under the form of history to inculcate historical and philosophical truths, or legends partly historical and partly fictitious freely composed for the instruction and edification of minds. The commission bases its prohibition on the character and historical form of the Book of Genesis, the special nexus of the first three chapters with one another and with those that follow, the almost unanimous opinion of the Fathers, and the traditional sense which, transmitted by the people of Israel, the Church has ever held.

(4) Revelation

As no man witnessed the creation and formation of the universe, all human speculations concerning this subject present only conjectures and hypotheses. In this field we obtain certain knowledge only by Divine revelation. Whether God granted this revelation by way of language, or by vision, or by another more intellectual process, we do not know; all of these methods are possible, and as such they may enter into the exegesis of Gen., i. Again, though very plausible reasons may be advanced for the thesis that God granted such a revelation to the first man, Adam, they are not absolutely convincing; the full instruction as to the origin of the world may have been given at a later period, perhaps only to the inspired writer of the Hexaemeron. If the revelation in question was granted at an earlier time, perhaps immediately after man’s creation, its substance may have been preserved by the aid of a special providence among the ancestors of the Hebrews. While the primitive doctrine degenerated among the races into their respective cosmogonies, modified by their various natural surroundings, one race may have kept alive the spark of Divine truth as it had been received from God in the cradle of humanity. Or, if such a purity of doctrine among the Hebrew ancestors appears to be incompatible with the vagaries of other Semitic cosmogonies, it may be assumed that God partially or wholly repeated His primitive revelation, during the time of the Patriarchs, for instance, or of Moses. At any rate, the attitude of Christian tradition towards the Hexaemeron implies its revealed character; hence, whatever theories may be held as to its transmission, its ultimate source is Divine revelation.
 
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TOME:
I would like to address two points made by Faithful One. First, in the general metaphysical understanding of the time ( although the Jews didn’t really have a metaphysics as the Greek/Roman world) to speak was more than just to express words or thoughts. Your “Word” is you more than just than expressions of thought. John’s prologue expresses this, “And the Word was God”. So in Genesis, to “Speak” refers to or express the Nature of God which is to create. The second point is about the term myth. It seems that in the general understanding of this word is equal to a ficticious story something like Sci -fi. Myths however are tales with deep and symbolic meaning gained through human understanding realized through God’s gifts of human reason and intellect.

To name anything that did not already exist, was to bring it into being:​

When on high the heaven had not been named,
Firm ground below had not been called by name,
Naught but primordial Apsu, their begetter,
And Mummu-Tiamat, she who bore them all,
Their waters commingling as a single body;
No reed hut had been matted, no marsh land had appeared,
When no gods whatever had been brought into being,
Uncalled by name, their destinies undetermined–
Then it was that the gods were formed within them.
Lahmu and Lahamu were brought forth, by name they were called.

cantrell.org.uk/david/religion/babylon/enuma-elish.html ##
 
Dear Gottle of Geer in B
Where does that prose come from? sounds Hindu or animist, Nice tho’
God Bless
Br CreosMary
 
Goggle, excellent point, you expressed my thoughts much clearer than I did - Thanks!
 
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