EWTN's Arroyo Hosts Reform CCHD Reps Who Reveal Shocking Evidence Against USCCB Anti-Poverty Arm

  • Thread starter Thread starter Pro_Life_News
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
So, is this money wisely spent?

Little Village Environmental Justice Organization (LVEJO) – Illinois - granted $40,000
* Youth program El Cilantro promoted birth control and homosexual lifestyles in its newsletter to teens. (see: [lvejo.org/newsletter/newsletter0402.htm](http://www.lvejo.org/newsletter/newsletter0402.htm))
 
CCHD doesn’t directly do anything for the poor. They’re a fundraiser and disbursement organism. Do your own homework and give directly to a faithful catholic group that assists the poor directly. Food For the Poor is excellent, as is Christian Foundation for Children and the Aged. Both of these mostly help overseas poor. I’m sure there are local crisis pregnancy centers, food pantries and homeless shelters that desperately need your help.

Funding worthy catholic organizations directly eliminates diversion of your funds to harmful groups AND is a more efficient way of funding groups that deserve help. Win-win!
The St. Vincent de Paul Society does a lot of work in individual local communities as well. 👍
 
I received an e-mail from Relevant Radio just a short while ago. The Drew Mariani show tomorrow is entitled **The Truth About CCHD Funding **and the e-mail says:
With much controversy surrounding the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, many Catholics are now questioning whether or not to drop their checks into the collection basket this weekend.
Join me on The Drew Mariani Show Thursday November 19, as I try to clear up misconceptions and present the truth on who the CCHD is funding, the criteria they use to fund these groups and how they respond to the controversial boycott. I will be joined by Ralph McCloud, Director of the CCHD National office, and Rey Flores the new CCHD program director in the Archdiocese of Chicago.
Be sure to tune in Thursday, November 19, at 4:15pm EST/3:15pm CST.

You don’t want to miss this conversation as I provide answers you won’t hear anywhere else.
 
What irks me is that about 10 years ago in the pro-life community there were many discussions and questions and people wanted answers on some of these groups yet the bishops did nothing.

It has to take public radio or TV to push the issue and then they respond like they just found out.:confused:
 
I think there is truth in these reports but I wonder if the vortex guy is exaggerating?

I have no idea, I just think his delivery was so Hollywood…over the top dramatic

When people do this it turns me off…Is he just the other side of the coin? I have no idea, what do the rest of you think?
 
I am reminded every November just how far socialism has made it’s way into our church. When liberation theology was condemed by the church it certainly didn’t go away. It laid low and waited for Sal Alinsky and the CCHD.

The Bishops that know what’s really going on with these grantees should stand up for the Faith, and not continue to allow the faithful to be scandalized by the leftist political propoganda running rampant in the USBC.

Honestly, do they think we are all stupid? 16% of the funding goes to IAF member organizations. (Industrial Areas Foundation–founded by Sal Alinsky). Only a slight number of the grantees are even christian based, much less catholic.

With all of the catholic schools in the US in danger of closing, wouldn’t it be a good idea to use those millions a year that the CCHD doles out to political groups to help needy families send their kids to catholic schools? Do the Bishops feel that the faithful’s hard earned donations **can not **be trusted in the hands of local parishes, St. Vincent De Paul, catholic schools, crisis pregnancy centers, or any of the other truely catholic groups?

I’m sorry, but I think the argument in favor of incompetance on the part of the bishops is well intentioned, but wrong. I think they know exactly what they are doing. Afterall, some of them are quite studied in the Rules for Radicals.
 
So what do we as catholics do? To give or not to give that is the question…
There’s been so much coming to light lately…I had a discussion with my parish priest tonight. I’ve always given but have decided I won’t this year until I’m assured that this issue is cleaned-up and brought squarely into the light-of-day. My priest says he feels about the same way.

I realize that my taxes don’t always go to things that I have moral objections to, but taxes aren’t voluntary. CCHD is. I feel very strongly that I do not want one cent of what I give going to support any organization that promotes any agenda that is contrary to church teaching or that supports life-styles that are totally contrary to biblical teaching.
 
I realize that my taxes don’t always go to things that I have moral objections to, but taxes aren’t voluntary. CCHD is. I feel very strongly that I do not want one cent of what I give going to support any organization that promotes any agenda that is contrary to church teaching or that supports life-styles that are totally contrary to biblical teaching.
👍👍
 
If I may make a suggestion, the idea is to support the Church’s ministries. Many dioceses have wonderful ministries that need funds. Call me biased, because my own community does Respect Life Ministry, almost exclusively. But the pro-life ministries of many dioceses need funds to keep going. Those are ministries that are certainly very Catholic. Because of the nature of their work, they get very little, if any, state funding. They depend on the generosity of Catholics in their dioceses.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Please support your statement above with facts! And no thank you - their funding of these questionable groups, two of them just this past year which are Marxist in nature, show that present day Liberation Theology is alive and well in the Church.
 
You think? Perhaps you’d like to go back a few years because this has been going on for a very long time. They gave one criminal organization, ACORN, $7.3 Million (that’s with an “M”)

findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3827/is_20081117/ai_n31108536/
My husband was called on by our pastor to help raise funds for CCHD. This was right after he’d helped raise money to put an addition on our church. He was reluctant to ask people for more money but thought it was going to a good cause. We also pledged quite a bit of money for CCHD. We’ve already paid half of that money. Naturally all contributions from us were stopped when we discovered that some of this money was going to Acorn. And my husband was really disgusted. He thought he was doing something to help people. Not contributing to some criminal organization. My husband also feels badly about persuading other people to give to this organization.
 
Apart from the chronically lax and apparent lazy investigations by CCHD into the grantee’s practices and policies, there are still many undeserving organizations which continue to receive funds in spite of having them brought into the light of day. Again, charity is wasted when it goes to ‘community organizing’. If Catholics truly want to “develop people” then they ought to fund Catholic schools instead of Saul Alinski-modeled organizations.
 
ACORN is history now, and it’s really too bad that the lessons of the past are being ignored. The point we are trying to make is that Bsp Morin’s statements mean nothing because of the continuation of funding to groups he cannot begin to justify. Where in his vague declarations has he specifically addressed justification of donations to this particular new grouping of anti-Catholic organizations? No where - because they no longer have any defense! Any organization disbursing funds of the magnitude of the CCHD should have complete and total accountability. We are asked to be good stewards…why not the bishops?

I am heart-broken that what is SO wrong continues to be defended by well-meaning Catholics. Painful though it is to us, we should ALL be demanding a thorough house-cleaning.
 
So what do we as catholics do? To give or not to give that is the question…
Give to the local work your Parish does - your St Vincent de Paul Society, your parish food pantry, the crisis pregnancy center - etc.
 
By (name removed by moderator)

“i am heart-broken that what is so wrong continues to be defended by well-meaning catholics. Painful though it is to us, we should all be demanding a thorough house-cleaning
i am brokenhearted that well meaning catholic continue to attack the successors of peter, who have admitted error and are in good faith attempting to do their best to correct those mistakes. What i believe you are demanding is not a “housecleaning” but your own particular version of “perfection”. The problem with that is that the church is not a museum for saints but a hospital for sinners, human beings subject to error, neglect, and temptation, clergy included. We as the body of christ need to grow up and stop expecting our clergy to be perfect. They aren’t, never have been, and never will be…”

But is this really what’s going on? Is this an “attack” on the successors of Peter, or is it an awareness that a bureaucracy has gone astray? I think it’s the latter.

What continues to baffle me in all this is the fact that the CCHD gives money to secular organizations AT ALL. It isn’t as if there aren’t perfectly good and quite needy Catholic organizations to whom money could be given, both here and abroad. And, truth be told, most Catholics think that’s what they’re doing when they give to CCHD.

Now, I could believe, if I wanted to, that gifts to the truly offensive organizations was a mistake. But was it really? How are we to know? This is not a matter of my bishop saying “oh, organization ‘X’ supports abortion, but I’m going to give your donations to it anyway”. It’s a matter of non-bishops; people whose JOB IT IS to investigate and to know to whom they are donating, giving money Catholic parishioners thought was going to Catholic organizations. It’s not so hard to find out what an organization is if you’re thinking of giving it thousands of dollars, or even millions, as in the case of ACORN. SOMETHING had to make the organizations appeal to them.

People can disagree over whether ACORN has some charitable programs, but I have personally known for years that it’s fundamentally political. You don’t have to know much about ACORN to know that. So why is the CCHD giving them millions? It can only be because the people in CCHD knew full well that it’s political and intend to effect political changes. Political changes are a resort to governmental coercion. Did anyone ever see any CCHD material say “Well, among other things, we give your money to organizations that want the state to force you to do this or that.”? Never have I seen anything evern remotely suggesting that. Yet, that’s what they have been doing. To me, that’s a subcategory of Liberation Theology: “Never mind charity. Let’s force people to do what WE think is charitable.”

Over the years, a lot of bad things have crept into the Church in the U.S., and to me, the whole approach of the CCHD is one of them.

If Liberation Theology, American Style, is what the CCHD is all about; if that, and not direct charitable action is what it’s all about, then maybe it’s time it was shut down altogether.
 
I am heart-broken that what is SO wrong continues to be defended by well-meaning Catholics.
Eventually, more and morer Catholics will come to realize that CCHD monies reach and help not one poor person, and the collection baskets will get fewer dollars, and more and more coupons. Defunding CCHD is a social justice issue.
 
If so, then the greater is the shame of it. So, what bishop carefully reviewed and approved the millions to ACORN?
 
Eventually, more and morer Catholics will come to realize that CCHD monies reach and help not one poor person, and the collection baskets will get fewer dollars, and more and more coupons. Defunding CCHD is a social justice issue.
Seems to me it’s a moral issue as well. Totally aside from the fact that Catholics in the pews have no idea their donations go to secular organizations, the fact that money EVER goes to proponents of immorality is simply appalling.

This is just basic. In my lifetime I have handled millions and millions of dollars of others’ money, and I ALWAYS knew where it was going and for what purpose before I sent a nickel of it anywhere. I made totally sure I did. If these people are so inept that they can’t figure out what they’re giving money to, they have no business handling money at all.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top