Ex-Catholics unable to get married?

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I’m a bit confused. You are Catholic but not practising. How do you feel the Church is rejecting you? If you are not practising, why does it matter what the Church says (to you) on marraige? Is it b/c of your family? And do they know you no longer practise? If they do, why would it matter if your fiance is not Catholic?

I hope I didn’t sound rude. I honestly need some clarification. 😊

God Bless.
 
I don’t attend mass anymore if I can help it, because I’ve had multiple experiences with uncontrollable tears during communion.
Sounds like your heart is screaming out for Christ in the Eucharist, and this scares you, so you ran. Is this accurate?

Why not become fully Catholic and receive Him anyway? Your tears will be tears of joy.
 
Sounds like your heart is screaming out for Christ in the Eucharist, and this scares you, so you ran. Is this accurate?

Why not become fully Catholic and receive Him anyway? Your tears will be tears of joy.
Would you believe I’ve experienced those “tears of joy” while taking communion in a non-denominational setting? Similarly uncontrollable, but entirely different in motivation. Sitting through the Catholic version, knowing I’m not welcome, makes me feel like I’m being forced to deny Christ.

My conscience will not allow me to become fully Catholic, and if I so desired, I couldn’t do it in the time I have before getting married.

And yes, it is because of my family that I care, but it’s my extended family. I never was a practicing Catholic (past the age of four, at which most people haven’t done much practicing, anyway). My parents (only one of whom was raised Catholic) left the Catholic church when I was very small. I think they only had me baptized there in the first place to please my one cradle Catholic parent’s parents.
 
Would you believe I’ve experienced those “tears of joy” while taking communion in a non-denominational setting? Similarly uncontrollable, but entirely different in motivation. Sitting through the Catholic version, knowing I’m not welcome, makes me feel like I’m being forced to deny Christ.

My conscience will not allow me to become fully Catholic, and if I so desired, I couldn’t do it in the time I have before getting married.
I don’t know what denomination you are but some Protestant denominations see it only as symbolic…which is very different then our understanding of it. My husband is converting and he can not take communion yet. He does not see it as a denial of Christ. It’s not that he is not welcome in the Catholic church…he has to go through RCIA so that when he does take communion and says “Amen”…he really knows what he is say “Amen” to. But he still enjoys communion right now…although he hungers for the Eucharist…which is VERY different from our old communion…which was once a month. You think Christ doesn’t understand that you aren’t able to take communion? He does understand…he knows you are not forced to deny Him. But the Eucharist in the Catholic way is unique to the Catholic church. You can not get that in most Protestant denominations.

But he was baptized Catholic and so are you…you are Catholic…right now. Which is what brings us to your dilema. You could get married in the church…but of course I would do it without a full Mass.

If you want to do it outside the Church in your own church…then you have to get a dispensation. I still think your best bet is to talk with a priest.
 
I will also say this…even though I was raised Catholic until I was about 8…I had SOOO many misconceptions about the Catholic church. I wish I had found out the real teachings sooner.
 
Well, it’s not really that they don’t accept me (in most situations they do), but things like refusing to visit my church ever (while I often visited theirs) and a slight awkwardness when many topics of conversation arise, or occasional insensitive comments. .
I never understood this from my relatives…until I discovered something. If they went to your church…that does not fulfill their Sunday obligation. And they would not be able to receive communion at your church. So now I understand that my visiting relatives just simply did not have enough time to attend two services.

And now if I went to a Protestant service…like back at my old church…well I just don’t want to have to deal with all the anti-Catholic comments. I’ve already had some lobbed my way. Could be the same for your relatives.

I hope that explains at least that much…
 
That’s not true any more. Canon law was changed very recently - now ALL people who have been baptised Catholic (whatever their other circumstances) are bound to Catholic canon law respecting marriage. That includes the OP.

There’s no longer a situation where ‘formal defection’ removes the obligation to adhere to canon law, as it used to do.
**My sincerest apologies to all for going public with my ignorance!

And thanks to everyone who corrected me, including the OP 👍**

Carry on 😃

Gertie
 
So, it wouldn’t be too strange to approach a Catholic parish and try to get some sort of dispensation (I’m not even quite sure what that is…)? I really think that it would be worth trying, just for the memory of my Catholic grandmother, who I know would have wanted me to.
 
So, it wouldn’t be too strange to approach a Catholic parish and try to get some sort of dispensation (I’m not even quite sure what that is…)? I really think that it would be worth trying, just for the memory of my Catholic grandmother, who I know would have wanted me to.
It wouldn’t be too strange. At least then you’ll know. The worst that can happen is you are in the same spot you are now. But at least you will know…and I hope it will bring you some peace.
 
Well, thank you for your help.

Actually, the worst that could happen would be if I were treated dismissively or insultingly and as a result, never wanted anything to do with Catholics or Catholicism again…
 
Well, thank you for your help.

Actually, the worst that could happen would be if I were treated dismissively or insultingly and as a result, never wanted anything to do with Catholics or Catholicism again…
well…I will pray that it isn’t so…and I hope you can see that at least this Catholic wants what is best for you.😉

I will be praying for you!
 
I was baptized Catholic as a baby, but my parents left Catholicism when I was a preschooler and I was unaware that we ever had been Catholic until my late teens (years after I had chosen to be baptized in a different church).
Baptism is a permanent event and can happen only once. Any person whether Christian or non-Christian can baptize someone who is yet to be baptized. Catholics have a standard in place that ordinarily reserves it to Deacons, Priests, and Bishops. This is for good order and discipline with the ranks of Christian society.

What were the circumstances of your discovery that you had you had your “ransom paid” baptized as infant, in accordance the Scriptures and ancient tradition, within the embrace of the Catholic Church?
Never having considered myself Catholic, I am now engaged to another non-Catholic.
Congradulations! I hope the Beloved causes His Face to shine upon you and your betrothed.
Now, I’ve been reading on this website and others that I am now considered (by the Catholic church) to be bound to canon law in regards to marriage.
Ius Romanum; that is, Canon Law, is an ancient and very foundational set of laws and decrees that had evolved out of the old world and is the foundation stone for all Christianity, Catholic and non-Catholic. It is also the foundation stone for all of Western Civilization. The Canon Law can at first appearances can seems imposing but time spent with it makes us realize the wonderous and loving nature of a human society that has been infused with divinity of Christ.

From afar, it may seem that you are bound in a very autocratic way, but upon closer inspection the Canon Law is supremely democratic in its attention to even, as Christ said, the littlest among us. Exceptions are made almost to the point where the rule is often the exception. Laws are designed to be embracing of the human person.
I wouldn’t care about this for my own sake, obviously, but most of my extended family is still Catholic, and I would as soon not make my relatives think I were living in immorality.
It is good to think your family. Speaking as a Christian, they might observe and wrongly say some mean things but remember that it is not their province to judge. That is reserved for compitent authority; primarily Christ, in the Hereaftr, but also compitent authority on Earth as appointed by Christ. Yet, as I said before you will find Canon Laws to be embracing of the human person… even if it does seem to move at a turtles pace.
Am I seriously supposed to believe that the Catholic church would forbid me to ever marry at all, when I never had a First Communion, was never confirmed, and never considered myself Catholic?
On the commute home today, I found myself wondering about the babies that had been carried across the Parted Waters on the way out of Egypt. I was wondering if any of those little babies who grew up considered themselves Egyptian and not Jewish, or if any of them ever said to their parents, “Why did you take me out of Egypt against my will? You should have waited until I was older and I could have made the choice myself?” This is the truly amazing thing. We know from Scripture that similiar things certainly did happen. Many Jews were upset at having been Baptized into the Covenant by way of the event at the Red Sea.

Although I doubt that you have ever been upset at being baptized, you certainly must have been suprised to discover this. Either way, you have brought across the waters and are now in the Promised Land. You can choose to make your home here or move on into another land further from Jerusalem.
Will my Catholic relatives accept my upcoming marriage
Don’t worry if they will accept it or not. Worry if you will accept yourself. I know God certainly accepts you for who you are and who you have the potential to be. We are all flickering embers that if nurtured could become shining flames.

And, besides you can always become married in the Church later, but the easiest thing is to simply put your own beliefs on hold, trust in the Lord, who is the Catholic Church, and become a shining example of the Catholic Christian. Many Catholics harbour private doubts knowing that feelings and inclinations pass away dust to dust.
…or am I looking at even more separation than I’ve already grown up with (which, by the way, has often been extremely painful)?
Seperation is horrible. I cannot even begin to think about it without my heart being wrenched. If your Catholic relatives are hard people make them soft by impeccable Christian example. Become a saint. There isn’t a single teaching or moral item, found with the Catholic Church, that every Christian shouldn’t have trust in, believe and practice. Since the Church is the Fullness of Faith and Christianity par excellance it makes the most sense to go with the flow of the Faith.

This is what I have done for several years now and I can attest that it is only just now making blossom into a well-rounded man whom gives glory to God by just being alive.

I am sory if I disappointed you by any of my answers. It was unintentional. I have a horrible way with people and words so please forgive me. I guess we all need work.

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My soul magnifies the Lord when I walk in His ways and let Him purify me of my imperfections.
 
What were the circumstances of your discovery that you had you had your “ransom paid” baptized as infant, in accordance the Scriptures and ancient tradition, within the embrace of the Catholic Church?
We went back on vacation to the area we’d lived in when I was small, and my parents said they wanted to introduce me to the priest who baptized me. And his first comment to me was, “Are you still Catholic?” in this frightful booming voice, when so far as I knew I never had been Catholic. That shocked me just a bit.
On the commute home today, I found myself wondering about the babies that had been carried across the Parted Waters on the way out of Egypt. I was wondering if any of those little babies who grew up considered themselves Egyptian and not Jewish, or if any of them ever said to their parents, “Why did you take me out of Egypt against my will? You should have waited until I was older and I could have made the choice myself?” This is the truly amazing thing. We know from Scripture that similiar things certainly did happen. Many Jews were upset at having been Baptized into the Covenant by way of the event at the Red Sea.
A lot of the people were upset at having been taken out of Egypt, but that doesn’t mean they thought they were actually Egyptians. They were already an oppressed minority, so I assume they would have seen themselves as in Egypt but not of it.
And, besides you can always become married in the Church later, but the easiest thing is to simply put your own beliefs on hold, trust in the Lord, who is the Catholic Church, and become a shining example of the Catholic Christian. Many Catholics harbour private doubts knowing that feelings and inclinations pass away dust to dust.
Even if I wanted to become properly Catholic (which my conscience will not allow), I would not be able to do so by the time I will be married. Are you telling me to become Catholic instead of getting married? If I wanted to do that, I’d probably be a nun by now. One of my relatives once said I might make a good one.
 
Would you believe I’ve experienced those “tears of joy” while taking communion in a non-denominational setting? Similarly uncontrollable, but entirely different in motivation. Sitting through the Catholic version, knowing I’m not welcome, makes me feel like I’m being forced to deny Christ.
Who said that you’re not welcomed? I’m sorry if you feel that way, but it’s not true. Everyone is welcome, it’s just that you shouldn’t join in communion (Catholic or otherwise) with a group wiith which you do not agree on matters of faith.
My conscience will not allow me to become fully Catholic, and if I so desired, I couldn’t do it in the time I have before getting married.
You could still be married. Normally you are required to have received the Sacrament of Confirmation before being married, but Canon Law (specifically Can. 1065) allows for a situation where you can be married before if it would cause a “grave inconvenience.”
Are you telling me to become Catholic instead of getting married?
You’re already Catholic. If you want to join into full communion with the Church, you’d just need an RCIA class for adults that did not receive all sacraments of initiation (which in some parishes is just two months of classes one night per week).
So, it wouldn’t be too strange to approach a Catholic parish and try to get some sort of dispensation (I’m not even quite sure what that is…)?
It wouldn’t be strange to approach a priest at all. Look for a parish in your area and search google for the parish website. Most parishes now have a biography about the priest and you can find one that seems like he might be someone good to talk to (for instance, a priest that fell away from the Church then came back).

The priest can give you your options.
 
That’s not true any more. Canon law was changed very recently - now ALL people who have been baptised Catholic (whatever their other circumstances) are bound to Catholic canon law respecting marriage. That includes the OP.

There’s no longer a situation where ‘formal defection’ removes the obligation to adhere to canon law, as it used to do.

Wholeheart, put it this way. You’re a citizen of a particular country. It may be that, like myself, you’re a citizen by virtue of your birth, and not really by choice. It may be that you don’t really have any claim on citizenship to any other country, or couldn’t change without undue hassle and expense.

That citizenship proabably imposes, or will at some point impose, obligations on you that you don’t particularly like, as it does me. I don’t enjoy paying tax, I don’t enoy voting (which in my country is compulsory - you get fined if you don’t turn up to a polling place), most people don’t enjoy doing jury duty or compulsory military service in those countries that have it etc etc. But they bite the bullet and bear with it.

Can you not find it in your heart to do the same in this case? Just to make those Catholic relatives of yours happy? If you don’t want a big ceremony in a Catholic church you can have a very small low-key one instead.
“…You can check out anytime you’d like. But you can never leave.”
 
I also really wonder why on earth the Catholic church would make such a rule, and whether they really expect anybody to observe it.
 
I claim Christianity, no denomination. My religious influences as a child came from Catholic, Baptist, Pentecostal, and other sources.

I don’t attend mass anymore if I can help it, because I’ve had multiple experiences with uncontrollable tears during communion. You can’t say that the Catholic church isn’t rejecting me there.
I’m going to explain some things here that may make you very uncomfortable - while you did not choose your Baptism - your Godparents did you a disservice by not explaining certain things like that Baptism leaves an indellible mark on the soul - since you have not partaking in the Eucharist either as a child or by choice as an adult you have seperated yourself or been seperated from those promises that were made between you and God. It is a Covenant. I would further go on to say that since a marriage is a relationship between you a spouse and God until you can better define your relationship with God you may want to hold off on the marriage - how can you form that covenant when you are so confused about one of those relationships that it is driving you to tears. I am saying this to be charitable as God must be at the center of your marriage.Please talk to a priest - develop a better understanding for the religion of your Baptism as you are Catholic.
 
If you aren’t a practicing member of a church it really doesn’t matter what they believe about you. It really shouldn’t ruffle your feathers unless you believe that the Catholic Church has the authority to affect your marriage.
 
“…You can check out anytime you’d like. But you can never leave.”
That’s not true…it just takes more than it used to. It’s not like the church I used to go to…where you can switch back and forth without a thought…
 
I’m going to explain some things here that may make you very uncomfortable - while you did not choose your Baptism - your Godparents did you a disservice by not explaining certain things like that Baptism leaves an indellible mark on the soul - since you have not partaking in the Eucharist either as a child or by choice as an adult you have seperated yourself or been seperated from those promises that were made between you and God. It is a Covenant. I would further go on to say that since a marriage is a relationship between you a spouse and God until you can better define your relationship with God you may want to hold off on the marriage - how can you form that covenant when you are so confused about one of those relationships that it is driving you to tears. I am saying this to be charitable as God must be at the center of your marriage.Please talk to a priest - develop a better understanding for the religion of your Baptism as you are Catholic.
Well, seeing as I’ve been raised as a non-Catholic Christian, you’re going to have a hard time convincing me that I need to become formally Catholic to be right with God before I get married (Though I do agree that that should indeed be a prerequisite). You might also say that my grandmother did me a disservice by forcing my parents to have me baptized Catholic, though I’m sure she meant to have me raised Catholic as well, and would have if she hadn’t died. It’s not my relationship with God that’s the trouble; it’s my peripheral relationship with the Catholic church. I know where I stand with God.
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 8:38-39
I would assume that that includes the Catholic church.
 
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