Exclusive: Trump threatens third-party run

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Path_Finder said:
The Church instructs on Self Defense and Illegal Immigration.

usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/immigration/churchteachingonimmigrationreform.cfm
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Of course the Church does - that people have the right to legitimate self-defense (though what is needed to provide legitimate self-defense is debatable and depends on the situation) and that immigration policies (a) respect the laws and security of the country to which people are migrating and (b) respect the basic human right to migrate, along with respect for the human dignity for the migrants (of course, balancing the security needs of the country and the needs of the migrants is a very delicate balancing act - most people focus on one side or the other, when it needs to be both/and, not either/or).
 
_Abyssinia said:
POLLS: ‘The Trump steamroller’ continues to crush GOP rivals — even in their own states

uk.businessinsider.com/poll-donald-trump-leads-jeb-rubio-florida-2015-7?r=US&IR=T
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Polls do not crush. We are still six months out.

The first sign of Trumps real chance will only come after a few primaries, and we see which way the supporters of other GOP candidates go. Being number one on more people’s list is good, but being two or three on most people’s list is better.
 
pnewton said:
Polls do not crush. We are still six months out.

The first sign of Trumps real chance will only come after a few primaries, and we see which way the supporters of other GOP candidates go. Being number one on more people’s list is good, but being two or three on most people’s list is better.
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Exactly. Part of the reason why Trump is doing so well is due to the sheer number of candidates in the field. Most of the others are so similar to each other that of course their numbers are in the single digits - the support is very spread out. As for Trump, he very well may have peaked at 17% of the vote. Quite simply, even in the GOP, people either love Trump or can’t stand him. But those who can’t stand him are spread out through many candidates.
 
powerofk said:
Exactly. Part of the reason why Trump is doing so well is due to the sheer number of candidates in the field. Most of the others are so similar to each other that of course their numbers are in the single digits - the support is very spread out. As for Trump, he very well may have peaked at 17% of the vote. Quite simply, even in the GOP, people either love Trump or can’t stand him. But those who can’t stand him are spread out through many candidates.
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This article from the BBC lists five reasons why Trump is trouncing everyone else in the polls: he’s the voice of the anti-immigration movement, he has business credentials, he’s a television celebrity (unlike the other candidates) and he appeals to the anti-establishment crowd. (I collapsed the last two reasons together.)
 
adawgj said:
I like Trump because he simply can’t be bought out like every other politician.
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Of course he can be; he has been. How did he become rich otherwise? :rolleyes:

I don’t mean to imply Trump is politically corrupt. I do mean to imply that we really have no reason to trust that he has the nation’s best intentions in mind. That is, a rich man is usually morally corrupt, in that he puts money probably over some more important things.
 
I know this is a silly question, but are Americans aware of the word “trump” as in to break wind?

It being slightly less rude and more family-friendly than “fart”, cue fits of giggles among children when TV news is on and a helicopter pfffffts into shot with the word “TRUMP” emblazoned on it, and they cut to man being described repeatedly as “Mister Trump” by a serious faced newsreader, each repetition of the phrase renewing the hilarity.

Sorry I know this is not a very serious discussion of the subject, but it made me smile and I thought I’d share. 😃
 
It looks like this is used possibly in England; so fairly off topic here really. It may well not have American usage.
 
Arebella said:
He may not be tactful, but I will take the blunt honesty any time over the majority of politicians who “speak” through spin doctors and speech writers. Trump is no dummy and he understands how to get a reaction from the vast majority of the truly apathetic voters who have been lulled to sleep with the same old politically correct “messages” from the candidates of the last few years. Ronald Reagan was criticized early in in his campaign too for being too blunt and not being “presidential” and that turned out ok.
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Aside from being blunt and getting reaction from some voters, what exactly does he bring to the table?
 
DeniseNY said:
And surprisingly juvenile.
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Indeed, and far too frivolous for the topic, so I’m sorry about that. It just made me smile as the things children laugh at will do sometimes, I wasn’t being malicious about the man.
Path_Finder said:
It looks like this is used possibly in England; so fairly off topic here really. It may well not have American usage.
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As I made abundantly clear by my question. Although Catholic Answers > World News > not American so off-topic? Hmm. Perfectly willing to accept it was off-topic because a bit silly though, so again sorry about that.

Anyway, is there any further news on this? The man seems like the Democrats’ greatest campaign asset at the moment to an outsider, so I would imagine at least some Republicans would like to get shot of him.
 
The thing with Donald Trump is that, even though he’s first with the amount of people who consider him their first choice, at this time, more than half of GOPers state that they would never vote for him in the primary race. Seriously - Dr. Ben Carson has more people who would vote for him as a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. choice than Trump. As for the candidate with the most 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc., choice support? Marco Rubio.
 
Jeannie52 said:
Exactly what I want to know. What does he bring to the table?
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A lot of hot air. He has the courage to speak his mind. I agree with him on some stuff. I don’t think he has the skills to be president, but if we end up (God save us) with the surreal nominees Trump and Hillary, I’ll vote Trump (and pray a lot). My guess is he is a phase - I am dating myself here but do you remember pet rocks? He brings about as much to the table as I got out of my pet rock. Under pressure Trump will stumble and fade. If not, look out.
 
jtauke said:
Anyone voting for Trump may as well be voting for Hillary or Bernie Sanders…

All he’ll end up doing as a 3rd party is splitting votes away from republicans. The GOP needs to bury this clown early and hard.
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The GOP needs to wake up and realize the only reason Trump is ahead in the polls is their voting block is tired of the garbage they are selling and tired of the same ole nonsense they have been doing. This is not a reflection of the party but a reflection of the people being tired of where the party is and they are going to take it back even if it means destroying it first. For Trump to be ahead those old fools need to wake up and ask themselves where did they mess everything up. Trump isn’t destroying the party they have already done that themselves.
 
TCR74 said:
The GOP needs to wake up and realize the only reason Trump is ahead in the polls is their voting block is tired of the garbage they are selling and tired of the same ole nonsense they have been doing. This is not a reflection of the party but a reflection of the people being tired of where the party is and they are going to take it back even if it means destroying it first. For Trump to be ahead those old fools need to wake up and ask themselves where did they mess everything up. Trump isn’t destroying the party they have already done that themselves.
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They need to stop worrying about polling. Polling can change - look what happened with Trump - he made his offensive statements, faced blowback and triumphed - -people loved it. Look at gay marriage in the polls over the last 8 years or so. People follow trends; if you lead, they’ll follow. Don’t follow the polls. The Republicans should regard the public as malleable. Put out your argument and see what happens.
 
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