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I have just finished a book by Fr. Gabriel Amoranth (sp?) about exorcism. It was written in the 1990s. I am wondering which dioceses in the US happen to have exorcists. I know about Fr. Gary Thomas near San Francisco. Any others? Thank you.
 
I have just finished a book by Fr. Gabriel Amoranth (sp?) about exorcism. It was written in the 1990s. I am wondering which dioceses in the US happen to have exorcists. I know about Fr. Gary Thomas near San Francisco. Any others? Thank you.
This information is very seldom disclosed to the public.
 
I have just finished a book by Fr. Gabriel Amoranth (sp?) about exorcism. It was written in the 1990s. I am wondering which dioceses in the US happen to have exorcists. I know about Fr. Gary Thomas near San Francisco. Any others? Thank you.
For certain, the Archdioceses of New York has an exorcist priest. The former was on Mother Angelica Live, years back and he had a replacement.

BTW, take Fr Amorth’s book with a grain of salt. His credibility was questioned by many competent people.

Jim
 
For the OP, there were exorcists in about 52 dioceses about five years ago. It is Fr. Gabriele Amorth, Senior Vatican exorcist of six.
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  Truth be told, there were always priests who said minor exorcisms, also known as prayers of deliverance, who had the chrism of liberation from evil spirits.  They way some define "exorcist" would preclude  Padre Pio  being called an exorcist as he never once had his Bishop's mandate to perform an official exorcism.
All of Padre Pio’s exorcisms were minor exorcisms aka prayers or rites of deliverance.
 
Oh? Who questioned Father’s credibility?
patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2011/11/fr-gabriele-amorth-loose-canon.html

Also, one of the things I have a problem with, which comes form a fan of his, so I don’t know how accurate it is, but his claim that anyone can become demonically possessed, even devote Christians who have strong faith.

If this is so, God’s power over Satan is either nil, or God just doesn’t care about the person he allows Satan to take over.

Jim
 
Oh? Who questioned Father’s credibility?
I think it all boils down to the number of exorcisms that he says he has performed. However, each demon cast out is an exorcism and some are possessed by numerous demons. I have spoken with a Priest from Ghana. He did exorcisms but stopped as he got older, due to he physical and mental strain that is involved. He told me that one person in Ghana was possessed by 77 demons, which is the largest number that he personally knows of.

Here is an interview with an exorcist Priest. Rather than being frightening, it provides great hope, especially when you consider the power that the blessed virgin’s name has against demons.

regnumchristi.org/english/articulos/articulo.phtml?id=14318&se=364&ca=118&te=782

This article is a little more disturbing, but gives some case histories of cases of actual possession. It can help convince one never to dabble in the occult.

holyspiritinteractive.net/columns/guests/tomhoopes/darkbackward.asp
 
patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2011/11/fr-gabriele-amorth-loose-canon.html

Also, one of the things I have a problem with, which comes form a fan of his, so I don’t know how accurate it is, but his claim that anyone can become demonically possessed, even devote Christians who have strong faith.

If this is so, God’s power over Satan is either nil, or God just doesn’t care about the person he allows Satan to take over.

Jim
The Book of Job suggests that God may permit Satan to do the kind of things that was done to Job. How can we conclude that God doesn’t care when He allows Satan to torment someone? Job too felt that way initially and in the end when he saw God, this was his spontaneous response: “My ears had heard of you but now my eyes have seen you.Therefore I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes.” (Job 42:5-6)
 
patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2011/11/fr-gabriele-amorth-loose-canon.html Also, one of the things I have a problem with, which comes form a fan of his, so I don’t know how accurate it is, but his claim that anyone can become demonically possessed, even devote Christians who have strong faith. If this is so, God’s power over Satan is either nil, or God just doesn’t care about the person he allows Satan to take over. Jim
Yet, Satan demanded to sift Peter like wheat, and Jesus tdid not prevent it, but rather prayed for Peter’s faith:

Luke 22:31-33
Knox Bible (KNOX)
31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan has claimed power over you all, so that he can sift you like wheat: 32 but I have prayed for thee, that thy faith may not fail; when, after a while, thou hast come back to me, it is for thee to be the support of thy brethren. 33 Lord, said he, I am ready to bear thee company, though it were to prison or to death.old this to Peter.

We see from scripture that Peter did indeed have to endure prison and we know that he was martyred - all according to God’s plan. To us it may seem like indifference or worse, but Peter ultimately received the keys to heaven. It had nothing to do with God not caring - that is impossible! God is love and cannot violate His nature. God does allow testing, even demonic activity for our ultimate and eternal good. Yet, we will never realize that without taking our recourse to him.

Having experienced some oppression in years past, I can attest that one is very quickly motivated to fly to God for help.
The Book of Job suggests that God may permit Satan to do the kind of things that was done to Job. How can we conclude that God doesn’t care when He allows Satan to torment someone? Job too felt that way initially and in the end when he saw God, this was his spontaneous response: “My ears had heard of you but now my eyes have seen you.Therefore I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes.” (Job 42:5-6)
Precisely. Note that God limited the devil’s power over Job.
 
The Book of Job suggests that God may permit Satan to do the kind of things that was done to Job. How can we conclude that God doesn’t care when He allows Satan to torment someone? Job too felt that way initially and in the end when he saw God, this was his spontaneous response: “My ears had heard of you but now my eyes have seen you.Therefore I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes.” (Job 42:5-6)
But Job was not demonically possessed. He still has his free will all through his affliction.

Demonic possession is the surrender of one’s free will, to the demon. The demon can not just take it. Instead, the demon works on the individual in all sorts of ways, often working on the ideology or emotional attachments the person has, providing the individual with answers he wants to hear.

Once the individual is convinced they’re receiving truth or enlightenment from the demon, the demon then begins to work on the individual’s will, getting him to surrender it. Once the person begins to surrender, the demon then takes control of the person. The proportion of the will the individual surrenders is the level of demonic possession that takes place.

Again, I recommend Malachi Martin’s book, “Hostage to the Devil.” He goes into the details of demonic possession, and he was an expert on exorcism in Rome, and trained exorcist priest from all over the world.

Jim
 
Yet, Satan demanded to sift Peter like wheat, and Jesus tdid not prevent it, but rather prayed for Peter’s faith:

Luke 22:31-33
Knox Bible (KNOX)
31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan has claimed power over you all, so that he can sift you like wheat: 32 but I have prayed for thee, that thy faith may not fail; when, after a while, thou hast come back to me, it is for thee to be the support of thy brethren. 33 Lord, said he, I am ready to bear thee company, though it were to prison or to death.old this to Peter.

We see from scripture that Peter did indeed have to endure prison and we know that he was martyred - all according to God’s plan. To us it may seem like indifference or worse, but Peter ultimately received the keys to heaven. It had nothing to do with God not caring - that is impossible! God is love and cannot violate His nature. God does allow testing, even demonic activity for our ultimate and eternal good. Yet, we will never realize that without taking our recourse to him.

Having experienced some oppression in years past, I can attest that one is very quickly motivated to fly to God for help.

Precisely. Note that God limited the devil’s power over Job.
Peter fell into sin in denying Jesus, but Satan did not take possession of Peter’s will.

St Peter was no demonically possessed.

We all fall into the temptations of the devil, but we are not demonically possessed.

Jim
 
Peter fell into sin in denying Jesus, but Satan did not take possession of Peter’s will.

St Peter was no demonically possessed.

We all fall into the temptations of the devil, but we are not demonically possessed.

Jim
I hope that I did not imply that Peter was possessed. I was trying to address the power of the devil on a broad scope. As to Peter, he was tested like Job, with the Lord’s permission. This also occurred to Tobit. From the Vulgate version of Tobit (12:13):
And because thou wast acceptable to God, it was necessary that temptation should prove thee.
Normally, one must open a door to possession, but it can occur unknowingly. Possession usually requires flirtation with or active participation in the occult. Cases of active surrender would be relatively few, I would think, yet some remain unexplained. Whether oppressed or possessed, misery is the sure result, but oppression is much more easily addressed.
 
I have just finished a book by Fr. Gabriel Amoranth (sp?) about exorcism. It was written in the 1990s. I am wondering which dioceses in the US happen to have exorcists. I know about Fr. Gary Thomas near San Francisco. Any others? Thank you.
Supposedly all diocese are supposed to have one. I recommend you read the book The Rite by Matt Baglio. That book is the one that follows the training of Fr. Gary Thomas, and I want to say it mentions how there is an effort to get more priests trained. It might have been in one of his Catholic Answers Radio interviews too. You can check those out here and here

I did some more searching, and found the following reference from a 2011 article at National Catholic Register:*Bishop Thomas Paprocki of Springfield, Ill., considers that the United States has a pressing need for more exorcists; the dozen or so exorcists in this country feel overburdened by calls from outside their diocese. He spearheaded a two-day closed-door conference on exorcism for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops last November, which more than 50 bishops and over 60 priests attended. “No statistics are kept as to how many exorcists we have,” he said, “but every diocese should really have its own resources.”*Perhaps it is still a work in progress in the U.S., as this was just in Nov. 2011.

In 2010, Bishop Paprocki of Springfield, IL, chairman of canonical affairs in the U.S. said:*“There’s this small group of priests who say they get [exorcism] requests from all over the continental U.S.,” Bishop Paprocki said.

“Actually, each diocese should have its own resource (person). It shouldn’t be that this burden should be placed on a priest when his responsibility is for his own diocese,” he said.*So I think this may still be a work in progress. More here from the 2010 exorcism conference.
 
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I hope that I did not imply that Peter was possessed. I was trying to address the power of the devil on a broad scope. As to Peter, he was tested like Job, with the Lord’s permission. This also occurred to Tobit. From the Vulgate version of Tobit (12:13):
Normally, one must open a door to possession, but it can occur unknowingly.
Of for sure it’s out of ignorance and often naivete. A person see’s something as good, such as curbing hunger. However, they get sucked into ideals about combating hunger in a self-serving type of ideal. The devil uses this as a window of opportunity.
Possession usually requires flirtation with or active participation in the occult. Cases of active surrender would be relatively few, I would think, yet some remain unexplained. Whether oppressed or possessed, misery is the sure result, but oppression is much more easily addressed.
Well it can happen to people who dabble in the occult, but in four of the cases in Hostage to the Devil, the people were not involved in the occult. One of the possessed was a Catholic priest. He go into a desire of being popular by teaching feel good theology, rather than Church doctrine. He was one of the more difficult for the exorcist to succeed in the exorcism.

In all cases, it was a surrender of the will to the demon, which resulted in demonic possession, for that’s what possession actually means.

Jim
 
Here’s another good article on the topic from National Catholic Register 2012 with several quotes from exorcists and the strong need for this ministry.
Yeah, New Age Spirituality is a way of the evil one to get hold of a person’s will.

It’s the person’s desire for a spiritual experience which fits the platitudes of their life-stye. They don’t have to sacrifice anything, but just go for what feels good.

Christianity requires sacrifice. As Archbishop Fulton Sheen once said, "grace does not come cheap.’ It’s why most people who can not accept such and ideal will reject it.

Jim
 
The only light I can shed on this article is on the 9 exorcisms per day.

The exorcisms he is referring to are not what we imagine. Some of these exorcisms take years. As such he has a regular schedule of exorcisms he deals with each day. Not grandiose battles, but for the most part just a recital of the rites on a regular basis. Kind of like taking your medication for an ailment on a weekly basis. There are of course those grandiose battles, but he is counting any rite given I believe.

So I don’t think he means he removes the demons from 9 people a day, but rather performs the rite 9x a day. I don’t know him, that is just what I understand from his writings.
 
The only light I can shed on this article is on the 9 exorcisms per day.

The exorcisms he is referring to are not what we imagine. Some of these exorcisms take years. As such he has a regular schedule of exorcisms he deals with each day. Not grandiose battles, but for the most part just a recital of the rites on a regular basis. Kind of like taking your medication for an ailment on a weekly basis. There are of course those grandiose battles, but he is counting any rite given I believe.

So I don’t think he means he removes the demons from 9 people a day, but rather performs the rite 9x a day. I don’t know him, that is just what I understand from his writings.
I pointed this out once in another topic concerning Fr. Amorth and other exorcists. Don’t expect any of Father’s detractors to change their mind about him.
 
The only light I can shed on this article is on the 9 exorcisms per day.

The exorcisms he is referring to are not what we imagine. Some of these exorcisms take years. As such he has a regular schedule of exorcisms he deals with each day. Not grandiose battles, but for the most part just a recital of the rites on a regular basis. Kind of like taking your medication for an ailment on a weekly basis. There are of course those grandiose battles, but he is counting any rite given I believe.

So I don’t think he means he removes the demons from 9 people a day, but rather performs the rite 9x a day. I don’t know him, that is just what I understand from his writings.
In his book and in his interviews, he said he performed 30,000 exorcisms in a nine year period, not just the rite,

If he meant something else, the it’s his responsibility to get it correct when putting it into a book.

There are other problems which the article points out.

When Fr Amorth said that Yoga opens a person to demonic possession, this would’ve been a shock to the billions of people who practice Yoga and have not been demonically possessed but if anything, grew closer to God.

Imagine tell all the Hindus of the world that they’re on the edge of demonic possession practicing their religion ?

Jim
 
I want to thank everyone for this thread. For a while I have been wondering why many people including myself are attracted to the “spooky” things of the spirit world. For me it is not so much in reading, but in my choice of movies. I have tossed it in my mind as to whether this is bad for me as a Catholic. However in reading some of the links from this forum I began to see that interest in the spirit world can keep one better informed about temptations they face, and also to humble us toward God, and see what we face if we reject Him. Too often I think we tend to write off thought-life sins as irrelevant so long as we did not DO anything. However if we could see the spirit world we may see a demon prodding our thought-life and delighting in its sinfulness, and the angels weeping. It’s a matter of perspective of course in terms of who should study the negative things of the spirit world. For some it can be spiritually beneficial but for others it can have negative spiritual consequences.
 
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