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Hoosier-Daddy
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The idea if you change the wording you make something more palitable us a tool if social change and marketing. But linguistically, and logically and scientifically…
“Contra” the prefix meaning opposite or against
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“Conception” from the Latin conceptionem meaning thevact of conceiving.
Pretty accurate form nfp.
“Contra” the prefix meaning opposite or against
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“Conception” from the Latin conceptionem meaning thevact of conceiving.
Pretty accurate form nfp.
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Daisy
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Yeah. And I think Firefly OP is long gone, but one thing that troubled me about her post was this idea of being done for good. I think that approach would be morally wrong. It’s important to be open to God’s will each month, and the cool thing about NFP is that it does push you to take a hard look at the motivations every month.
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Hoosier-Daddy
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Sure I agree. Except there is no cool thing about NFP… lol
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Definitely not long gone. I have posted several replies just not daily as some of the posts really have little to do with my original post.
I know that being in my mid thirties is not “old” by any means, but it is pushing it in terms of having healthy children. There is a reason women aged 35 and up see a maternal fetal med doc versus a normal OB/GYN and are offered more frequent visits and tests.
Accepting that right now, based on who I am as a person, where I am in life, how old my children are, the fact that I am only getting older, and accepting that while I hope to continue to grow and improve as a person, there is only so much of that an adult can accomplish before the age when menopause is likely to occur, and deciding that with all that in mind another child would likely turn me into a wife and mother and person I do not want to be is not morally wrong. Never in my posts did I suggest some kind of permanent solution like getting my tubes tied or my husbanded getting a vasectomy.
It is my belief that God is not calling me to have more children. Could I be wrong? of course, hence not going against church teaching and having my body altered. I have had many months of prayer and discussion to come to this conclusion and my husband, 2 priests and our doctor all agree that mental and emotional health must be a priority. My vocation is not to pop out human beings like a vending machine- it is to have and RAISE children properly and I am at the point where it is my belief that I cannot properly perform my vocation to 8 or more children. Some men who become priests or brothers etc. realize they are not called to be pastors to parishes and they instead become monks. THere are women who become Nuns that serve God by being out there taking care of the sick and there are others that feel their vocation is better served in a cloistered life.
I don’t understand why people tend to get so up in arms when a person says something about being done for good. I made a vow to my husband to be married “for good” as in forever and no one bats an eye about that decision, and yet when I decide that my limits have been reached as a human woman, wife and mother, somehow that conclusion is morally wrong.
From my OP:
My questions are: Is it normal to feel a little sad at the thought even though you know you are doing it for good reasons? … If having 10 kids would turn you into a poor parent, then it would be best not to have 10 kids. I feel like I am at my limit and I want to be the best mom I can be for the kids I have. Is that wrong or weird? I guess I am just wanting to make sure my reasoning is sound and not selfish or despairing.
Those are the original questions and I have come to the conclusion that self awareness is neither despairing, wrong, or weird and that wanting to be the best Mom and wife I can be for the people God entrusted me with is not wrong or selfish either. Denying sexual impulses in order to be the best for my family is actually quite the opposite of selfish.
I know that being in my mid thirties is not “old” by any means, but it is pushing it in terms of having healthy children. There is a reason women aged 35 and up see a maternal fetal med doc versus a normal OB/GYN and are offered more frequent visits and tests.
Accepting that right now, based on who I am as a person, where I am in life, how old my children are, the fact that I am only getting older, and accepting that while I hope to continue to grow and improve as a person, there is only so much of that an adult can accomplish before the age when menopause is likely to occur, and deciding that with all that in mind another child would likely turn me into a wife and mother and person I do not want to be is not morally wrong. Never in my posts did I suggest some kind of permanent solution like getting my tubes tied or my husbanded getting a vasectomy.
It is my belief that God is not calling me to have more children. Could I be wrong? of course, hence not going against church teaching and having my body altered. I have had many months of prayer and discussion to come to this conclusion and my husband, 2 priests and our doctor all agree that mental and emotional health must be a priority. My vocation is not to pop out human beings like a vending machine- it is to have and RAISE children properly and I am at the point where it is my belief that I cannot properly perform my vocation to 8 or more children. Some men who become priests or brothers etc. realize they are not called to be pastors to parishes and they instead become monks. THere are women who become Nuns that serve God by being out there taking care of the sick and there are others that feel their vocation is better served in a cloistered life.
I don’t understand why people tend to get so up in arms when a person says something about being done for good. I made a vow to my husband to be married “for good” as in forever and no one bats an eye about that decision, and yet when I decide that my limits have been reached as a human woman, wife and mother, somehow that conclusion is morally wrong.
From my OP:
My questions are: Is it normal to feel a little sad at the thought even though you know you are doing it for good reasons? … If having 10 kids would turn you into a poor parent, then it would be best not to have 10 kids. I feel like I am at my limit and I want to be the best mom I can be for the kids I have. Is that wrong or weird? I guess I am just wanting to make sure my reasoning is sound and not selfish or despairing.
Those are the original questions and I have come to the conclusion that self awareness is neither despairing, wrong, or weird and that wanting to be the best Mom and wife I can be for the people God entrusted me with is not wrong or selfish either. Denying sexual impulses in order to be the best for my family is actually quite the opposite of selfish.
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13pollitos
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That is not anyone’s vocation. But please don’t use such language when referring to something as meaningful and important as giving birth. I have seen and heard these types of comments about motherhood more often in the last few years. It really is a negative way to speak of children and mothers. No one pops out human beings like a vending machine, breeds like rabbits or collects reproductive trophies (among many other crude comments that even Catholics are using these days).
I truly do wish the best for you and your family. I pray God helps you to be the best mother possible and leads your family to heaven with Him.
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Daisy
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Great
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Daisy
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I just encourage you to keep listening to His voice, to not put limits on that. I know you’re overwhelmed right now and Im sending my love, I’ve been there too.
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