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RosalieM
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I thought “viaticum” meant “food for the journey” and was given by a priest to a person who is about to die. (Compared to a shut-in or sick person who receives communion from from EMHC’s.)
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Aramis
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At St. Andrew, up to the limit of their 3 masses each, concelebration is routine. For a brief while, we had 4 priests (one, Rev. Fr. Andrew Szymanski, FSSP, being sent to seek a suitable diocese to establish a sub-parish, one, Rev. Fr. Scott, was in his first posting, and the third, Very Rev. Fr. Leo Walsh, was taking 4 months a year to go to rome for his doctorate in Canon Law; the fourth, Very Reverend Abbot Fr. Justin, is a retired abbot, residing in the Rectory, and assisting in great joy.) Fr. Andrew is now at another parish as the assistant pastor, Fr. Scott is Pastor de facto of 8 parishes (Circuit Priest), and de jure of one, Abbot Fr. Justin is off to Namibia. And so, we await Rev. Fr. Jaime, who will be the acting pastor whilst Fr. Leo heads off to Rome to complete his Doctorate, and then is scheduled to stay on as Assistant pastor for another year after.
The “Deacons Jim”, Rev. Mr. James Hostman, and Rev. Mr. Jim Lee, are both permanent deacons and assigned “until further notice”; Deacon Hostman will be retiring in a few years (due to age). Exactly what that means, since he’s not on the pension, is yet to be settled.
Going to be interesting… From a peak of 4 preists, with 3 on the Altar typical, plus a deacon or two… down to 1 with a deacon or two.
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Bob_Byrnes
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I didn’t realize we were going THIS FAR BACKWARD !!! The fascination with the Tridentine Mass is a real mystery to me.
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BobP123
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If that is what you call backwards, I would hate to see how much on the forward side you need to go.
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Titus
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It is interesting that posters feel the Mass of Vatican II is either the 1962 Missal (published before the conclusion of the council) or the 1970 Missal (published 5 years after it ended). It seems to me that we look to the missal published in 1965 and abrogated in 1970 to be the Mass of Vatican II, in line with Sacrosanctum Concilium.
Does that mass allow EMHCs? I don’t know, but my guess is that the answer will indicate the will of the Fathers of the Second Vatican Council on this issue.
Does that mass allow EMHCs? I don’t know, but my guess is that the answer will indicate the will of the Fathers of the Second Vatican Council on this issue.
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Bob_Byrnes
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I was just pleased with the decision of the worldwide Bishops of Vatican II that made the Mass a communal affair and not the witnessing of a private clerical Mass.If that is what you call backwards, I would hate to see how much on the forward side you need to go.
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BobP123
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Don’t know what you mean by private. I’ve been at in-store and cemetary chapels where only a few NO attended. In fact, one retreat Mass had only EMHC and I refused to accept.
Prior to Vatican II, there were many communal TLM’s without EMHC, in fact there was much less parish shopping than is done now. So I’m
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palmas85
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Pretty harsh statement don’t you think? In those bygone days we did participate in the Mass by actually praying along with the Priest. Imagine that, actually praying. Try it some time.
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sneakers
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Bob_Byrnes
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What is your problem with EMHC ? To deny yourself the Eucharist for some petty reason seems a bit bizarre. Is a cleric somehow more worthy to you than a lay person?Don’t know what you mean by private. I’ve been at in-store and cemetary chapels where only a few NO attended. In fact, one retreat Mass had only EMHC and I refused to accept.
Prior to Vatican II, there were many communal TLM’s without EMHC, in fact there was much less parish shopping than is done now. So I’m
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BobP123
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I don’t feel that’s a petty reason. We’re speaking the TLM. I receive from ordained hands only and only when I’m properly disposed. I guess we come from different schools and we’ll leave it at that.
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paramedicgirl
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Absolutely, a cleric is more worthy to handle the Sacred Species than a layman. (oops, hope I didn’t offend you there. I mean lay person)
“Because out of reverence towards this sacrament, nothing touches it, but what is consecrated; hence the corporal and the chalice are consecrated, and likewise the priest’s hands, for touching this sacrament.” - ST. THOMAS AQUINAS, Summa Theologica
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Bob_Byrnes
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It seems you believe that ST THOMAS AQUINAS’ Summa Theologica takes precedence over the Second
Vatican council. To each his own, I guess.
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Bob_Byrnes
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Sometimes, jumping to conclusions is the only exercise some people get. I believe you would have to agree that you are quite presumptuous in assuming I do not pray.
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Bob_Byrnes
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Fair enough !!!
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Walking_Home
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Where in Sacrossanctun Concilium does it discuss the use of EMHCs.
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demerzel85
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It is claimed that the Missal of Paul VI and the new rubrics are a restoration of the Missal to tradition. So which Church Father endorsed EMHCs? The Second Vatican Council does not even state a thing about EMHCs. Even in current Church, EHMCs remain an option and need not be used.
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paramedicgirl
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Can you show me which document of the Second Vatican Council called for EMHC?
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Jean_Anthony
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Please keep the discussion civil people with no personal comments, or I will have to close the thread. Thank you.
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THurifer2
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The animosity towards traditional form of worship is a mystery to me!
I guess my short answer is…
Lex orandi, lex credendi!
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