Fainting/Falling at Prophesy/Healing Event

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Thanks. I really wish these ministries would put this type of info prominently on their web pages for the benefit of those of us who want to make sure we are attending legit events.
 
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Thanks. I really wish these ministries would put this type of info prominently on their web pages for the benefit of those of us who want to make sure we are attending legit events.
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I agree. It took quite a bit of googling to figure that out. If you are legitimate, I don’t understand why you would not include this on your website some place.
 
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Also remember, if anyone is coming in to give a ministry, a talk, a retreat, a musical event, at your parish, be they religious or lay persons, your Diocese must approve them to come in. If you have questions you can call the Chancery office at your Diocese and verify that someone remembered to get the guest approved.
 
Long ago, I went to a retreat with Fr. Peter Rookey (the “miracle priest”) and at the end, those that wanted to receive a blessing lined up standing left to right. An announcement was made that some people may have a reaction “like fainting” so two escorts would assist them to gently lay down. I did not have any thought of ME reacting like that and wished a blessing so went up to take my place. When Father got to me he touched my forehead and next, I experienced the most peaceful feeling of pure rest as I returned to awareness. Yes, I had the experience. It was too beautiful for me to speak of - because the topic has been brought up, I thought I would share. Nothing else to add.
 
Of course it is still a strong argument!

I don’t see anyone here claiming everyone can speak in tongue or heal. In comparison to the whole church, the number of people claiming to have these gifts is quite small.

If God could do it then, he can do it now. The Baltimore Catechism did not say these gifts were extinct.
 
I once saw a Pentacostal minister on TV pray in tongues. I recognized what he was saying. He was saying “Glory be to Satan.” in Arabic.
 
My very conservative Catholic husband and I ( also a devout Catholic) went to a retreat and as the priest blessed people on the first night some did faint.
When my husband saw that, he was ready to leave right then. I convinced him to stay until the end of the mass and then leave.
When we went up to be blessed, he fainted, or as they call it “slain in the Spirit”.
No one was more surprised than he.
We did stay for the whole retreat and took our daughter to a mass by the same priest a few weeks later. He fainted again at that mass. I have never felt any weakening at either of these events.
 
Certainly applies to glossolia, but healing is certainly nessecary in today’s age
 
You know, God is in control. What may have been the will of God in one time may not be his will in another and vice versa.

Additionally, we can quench the Holy Spirit when we choose and for whatever reason we choose. Jesus Christ himself could not perform miracles amongst those who did not want to have faith and did not want to respond to His grace.

People continue to be healed. People continue to speak in tongues they had not knowledge of before. I don’t presume to know why God does what he does.
 
I’m not convinced you understand the entirety of what the gift of tongues is. It’s clear from the following passage in 1 Corinthians 14 that tongues, though not one of the greater or more important gifts serves as a form of prayer and self edification.
2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit. 3 But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening,encouraging and comfort. 4 Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves, but the one who prophesies edifies the church.
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I mean come on. If tongues are onlu unstudied human languages how come they are understood by no one? Also consider that St. Paul lists interpretation of tongues as a spiritual gifting. Interpreting preaching in your native tongue isn’t a spiritual gift.

And if tongues serve to edify the spirit of he who prays they have a place in the church yesterday, today, and forever.
 
You mean this?
It is forbidden to actively participate in the worship of non-Catholics.
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You haven’t established any of this as non-Catholic worship.

Also, before you get too far into the weeds with regards to campus ministries and origins of the Chrismatic renewal, please provide the citation for where the church declared St. Paul to be in error. Or where Catholic saints have been declared heretics or anathema for their mystical exstacies.
 
From what I know, there’s a debate over what tongues really were in this context- was it gibberish to human ears but really the language of angels, or is it a miraculous ability to speak a foreign tongue? I’d lean towards the latter.
 
No. But I am a quiet and reserved person and someone falling on the ground and babbling is scary.
 
There’s a debate, but it’s a foolish one. Read verse 2 of my post. The person speaks by the spirit directly to God. Sure God could have me pray to him in Arabic or Spanish. But there’s no reason to assume that He would. There’s no point. If tongues can be private and for personal edification than any argument you have for it needing to be a human language for the means of evangelization is a weak point.

Again Paul definitely says that tongues in these contexts is understood by no one. That’s not true of human languages.

It’s beyond obvious. Take pentacost itself:
7 Utterly amazed, they asked: “Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? 8 Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language?
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Clearly what’s going on here isn’t the apostles speaking dozens of languages at once. But rather the spirit is allowing each listener to hear it in his own language. So what language(s) were they speaking? Maybe a human language maybe not. You again have no means of making that assertion. (If one example isn’t enough it happens again in Revelations even more clearly where the two profits speak and all over the world every language is heard.)
 
If it makes you feel any better, I haven’t seen this at Catholic services.
People who fall down just lay there silently for a few minutes and then wake back up and return to their seats.
The only time I saw anyone speak in tongues at a Catholic service, it was the priest. He rattled off a few lines and stopped. He’s a very holy old priest who is very traditional about the Miraculous Medal and the Prayer to St. Michael so I wasn’t too concerned.
 
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