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tacdon
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They worship a God that was formed by demonic revelations.
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pacloc
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Now you know for sure that these people are not temples of God? You really don’t have much faith in humanity do you? Where do you get the idea that you can change what we as humans are? Just because a person rejects the Spirit, that doesn’t change the fact that they are temples of God. That is the only reason we believe in an immortal soul, that since we are built in the image of God, we contain God’s Spirit in a way different than all other creation.They aren’t another temple of God. I’d like to see the other things that the Catholic church has said to muslims or preached to muslims, do you have a link?
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tacdon
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I keep losing more respect for Catholics all the time. I was certain they would believe that Islam is a false religion that is leading people to hell.Now you know for sure that these people are not temples of God? You really don’t have much faith in humanity do you? Where do you get the idea that you can change what we as humans are? Just because a person rejects the Spirit, that doesn’t change the fact that they are temples of God. That is the only reason we believe in an immortal soul, that since we are built in the image of God, we contain God’s Spirit in a way different than all other creation.
The only way to heaven is through Jesus and they don’t believe that, so they are leading billions of people to hell.
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Matthew_Light
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That you view them in such a horrific and negative light is exactly why conflict rages on the earth.They worship a God that was formed by demonic revelations.
People of different religions cursing and anathematizing and condemning one another to hell and calling one another Satanic.
Of course, Jesus Himself was accused of working for the Devil.
In fact, they hung him on a cross because of it.
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tacdon
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Jesus said he did not come to bring peace.That you view them in such a horrific and negative light is exactly why conflict rages on the earth.
People of different religions cursing and anathematizing and condemning one another to hell and calling one another Satanic.
Of course, Jesus Himself was accused of working for the Devil.
Matthew 10:34
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
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pacloc
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If it is true that Muslims are leading billions of people to hell, how is it the Church’s fault? All we can do is teach Jesus Christ, what else would you have us do? force them to worship? I think you are missing the point about our compliment of Islam’s worshiping the God of Abraham. It is purely a way to bridge a gap and live peacefully. We have a lot more faith that the Holy Spirit will lead them to the truth, whether or not they make the move is their decision.I keep losing more respect for Catholics all the time. I was certain they would believe that Islam is a false religion that is leading people to hell.
The only way to heaven is through Jesus and they don’t believe that, so they are leading billions of people to hell.
How does anyone before Christ get to Heaven? Or how does a native american living 1000 years ago get to Heaven? You make God into a rulebook. Read Romans, those without the Law, will be judged by their God given conscience.
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pacloc
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Horrible misuse of scripture. I’m starting to wonder how the moderators are allowing you to speak so ugly. You really think Christ would have you create war with Muslims? Jesus’ words are talking about the conflict that holy living would have among a sinful world. Friends and family will hate you because of your drive to live holy, because their sins eat at their conscience. Sincere Muslims probably have a better relationship with God than many Christians that are so full of pride in their Heavenbound life.Jesus said he did not come to bring peace.
Matthew 10:34
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
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tacdon
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Okay, so you don’t believe Islam is an evil religion that was formed by demonic revelations.If it is true that Muslims are leading billions of people to hell, how is it the Church’s fault? All we can do is teach Jesus Christ, what else would you have us do? force them to worship? I think you are missing the point about our compliment of Islam’s worshiping the God of Abraham. It is purely a way to bridge a gap and live peacefully. We have a lot more faith that the Holy Spirit will lead them to the truth, whether or not they make the move is their decision.
How does anyone before Christ get to Heaven? Or how does a native american living 1000 years ago get to Heaven? You make God into a rulebook. Read Romans, those without the Law, will be judged by their God given conscience.
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tacdon
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There is conflict right now on this earth between Christians and non christians. Many thousands of christians in Africa have been killed, maimed, raped and all kinds of horrible things.Horrible misuse of scripture. I’m starting to wonder how the moderators are allowing you to speak so ugly. You really think Christ would have you create war with Muslims? Jesus’ words are talking about the conflict that holy living would have among a sinful world. Friends and family will hate you because of your drive to live holy, because their sins eat at their conscience. Sincere Muslims probably have a better relationship with God than many Christians that are so full of pride in their Heavenbound life.
I can’t believe a Catholic would be defending a demon filled religion like Bahai or however it is spelled.
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pacloc
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Not any worse than Protestantism. Both perverted Christ’s Body by adding and subtracting to the beliefs we hold. This was initially done by people that yes you could say were under “demonic” “evil” impulses because of their pride and lack of humility. Satan can only work with us, he can not force us to sin. And only God can allow Satan to do anything. So yes, I would agree that the roots of other religions that exist since Christ time, that developed from the Church are evil in that sense. But I would lump your religion right in there since you do not claim to be Catholic, yet somehow are Christian.Okay, so you don’t believe Islam is an evil religion that was formed by demonic revelations.
That does not mean that I think you are any Muslim is destined for Hell. Only God knows how much a person is rejecting Truth, and how much he truly is misled.
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tacdon
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Protestants believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven and that faith in Jesus is how to be saved.Not any worse than Protestantism. Both perverted Christ’s Body by adding and subtracting to the beliefs we hold. This was initially done by people that yes you could say were under “demonic” “evil” impulses because of their pride and lack of humility. Satan can only work with us, he can not force us to sin. And only God can allow Satan to do anything. So yes, I would agree that the roots of other religions that exist since Christ time, that developed from the Church are evil in that sense. But I would lump your religion right in there since you do not claim to be Catholic, yet somehow are Christian.
That does not mean that I think you are any Muslim is destined for Hell. Only God knows how much a person is rejecting Truth, and how much he truly is misled.
Islam doesn’t believe that or any other false religion.
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tacdon
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Jesus is the only way to heaven. Its that simple.Not any worse than Protestantism. Both perverted Christ’s Body by adding and subtracting to the beliefs we hold. This was initially done by people that yes you could say were under “demonic” “evil” impulses because of their pride and lack of humility. Satan can only work with us, he can not force us to sin. And only God can allow Satan to do anything. So yes, I would agree that the roots of other religions that exist since Christ time, that developed from the Church are evil in that sense. But I would lump your religion right in there since you do not claim to be Catholic, yet somehow are Christian.
That does not mean that I think you are any Muslim is destined for Hell. Only God knows how much a person is rejecting Truth, and how much he truly is misled.
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pacloc
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Just a question. What do you think the point of the Judgment is? You seem to think that the Judgment will be pretty simple, if you’ve become a Protestant Christian you’re going to Heaven and if not you’re going to Hell. Is that what you think it is? It is pretty clear from scripture that a lot of things will be revealed, and justice will be performed. People that think they are saved will not be, and other that did not know if they were saved will be.
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tacdon
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Are you saying there is no way to know if you are saved? Are you saying that the way to get to heaven isn’t clearly described in the bible?Just a question. What do you think the point of the Judgment is? You seem to think that the Judgment will be pretty simple, if you’ve become a Protestant Christian you’re going to Heaven and if not you’re going to Hell. Is that what you think it is? It is pretty clear from scripture that a lot of things will be revealed, and justice will be performed. People that think they are saved will not be, and other that did not know if they were saved will be.
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