Father McBrien Upset

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It seems he is upset that modern day seminarians seem to be more orthodox.

It is funny that he says this:

“What kind of situation would society face, he asks, if only 10 percent of those studying for medical, law or engineering degrees were intellectually “highly qualified”? Or that 40 percent of such candidates labored under significant learning disabilities that pose “special challenges for faculty”? Or that many students displayed an “unwillingness…to engage in the learning enterprise” that they were undergoing?”

When it has been him and his type that have used Catholic institutions of learning to spread anti-Catholic propaganda.

Oh, the irony of the irony.

Sorry Father - it seems you are losing the game - and I love it.
 
Brad,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

I am. . . .distressed by Fr. McBrien. 😦

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True to his dissident color, Fr. McBrien’s closing comment in his article critiquing the official Vatican guidelines for the teams of seminary inspection teams which consist of 96 questions to be posed to faculty, seminarians and some alumni, is:

“The anti-gay element is only part of the problem.”
 
The authors of this study estimate that only 10 percent of seminarians are “highly qualified” for their educational work. Just over half are “adequately qualified.” One-third to 40 percent suffer from poor educational backgrounds, learning disabilities, lack of facility with English or unfamiliarity with American culture (a reflection of the fact that increasing numbers of seminarians are from other countries), and atrophied study skills (in the case of another growing number of older seminarians). The authors characterize such deficiencies, with obvious understatement, as “special challenges for faculty.”
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Fr. McBrien teaches at Notre Dame. I wonder how the stats fall out there? I do not see any of these “limitations” as problematic for pastoral ministry. It has not been “preconceived ideas” that has cost the American Church the worst crisis in 200 years; it is the failure to practice or to teach the fullness of Catholic faith and discipline. Anti-gay agenda? Gimme a break.
 
McBrien and his ilk are ageing and it seems he’s upset that his kind of dissent is not welcome and will not be tolerated in the Church anymore.
THANK GOD!
 
I didn’t see the article that Fr. McBrien based his column on, but this fact is worthy of concern.
One-third to 40 percent suffer from poor educational backgrounds, learning disabilities, lack of facility with English or unfamiliarity with American culture (a reflection of the fact that increasing numbers of seminarians are from other countries), and atrophied study skills (in the case of another growing number of older seminarians). The authors characterize such deficiencies, with obvious understatement, as “special challenges for faculty.”
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Combine that with the shortage of priest candidates, and it suggests that the Church (at least in America) will be having a difficult time in the generation ahead.
 
Tristan daCunha:
I didn’t see the article that Fr. McBrien based his column on, but this fact is worthy of concern.

Combine that with the shortage of priest candidates, and it suggests that the Church (at least in America) will be having a difficult time in the generation ahead.
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I question the validity of that “fact” as he reported it.

I would also add that it is very bigoted. As if some one who is “from poor educational backgrounds” or has a learning disabilities is somehow unfit for higher education.

Sorry but education is only part of what makes a priest. After all, look at Fr McBrien himself. He has a great education but I must say he makes one awful example of a priest.
 
Isn’t it highly possible that “Fr” McBrien is already automatically excommunicated? HOW does he keep his post at NOTRE DAME? :banghead:
 
He comments are merely elitist pap. He is not a true priest If he doesn’t know that education doesn’t bring you one inch closer to God.
 
Tristan daCunha:
I didn’t see the article that Fr. McBrien based his column on, but this fact is worthy of concern.

Combine that with the shortage of priest candidates, and it suggests that the Church (at least in America) will be having a difficult time in the generation ahead.
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Today’s candidates are better educated according to surveys printed in the same publication as McBrien’s article.

I noticed that McBrien ignores the value of priestly obedience and emphasizes ‘creativity’.He also ignores the fact that the more orthodox parishes tend to excel the liberal ones.
 
It was not an oversight that certain types of questions are missing from the guidelines. They are missing because they are not deemed important. On the contrary, candidates who are intellectually curious, independent-minded and open to modern culture are not completely welcome in the priesthood because they cannot be trusted to be absolutely and uncritically loyal to every Vatican decree.
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And his problem with this is…???Priests who are loyal to the Vatican is what is needed! Haven’t the past 40 years proven that “independent-minded and open to modern culture” type preists led us to the some of the messes we see in The Church today?
I’ve noticed many young people in The Church and coming into The Church are very orthodox in their approach to The Faith and I praise God for it!
People like this McBrian guy are becoming dinosaurs, whether they see it or not.
 
Why hasn’t someone defrocked McBrien yet? How does he continue to get away with the blatent dissent?
 
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Baby McBrien Upset?
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Lol.
 
It was shocking to see that McBrien ridiculed the Catholic Santorum because Santorum did not attend a Catholic college.

Why do so-called priests attack faithful practising Catholics?
 
Santorum may be a good man, but he’s not 100% pro-life especially regarding the primary that pitted Arlen Specter against another republican.
 
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Santorum may be a good man, but he’s not 100% pro-life especially regarding the primary that pitted Arlen Specter against another republican.
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Please tell me about this. I am quite interested.

Let me tell you the little I know about Santorum…He recently appeared on ?Raymond Aroya’s EWTN news and said his original venture as a politician had little to do with his being Catholic. He said that data regarding late term brain-crushing abortions woke him up. He said he knew then he should stop just dealing and fight for Catholic principles that revere life.

The EWTN show also mentioned that Santorum and his then pregnant wife were advised to abort because of a fetal defect but refused and they had the baby.This was arround the tme that Santorum decided to stand up for Caholic morals/principles.

If you know anything different, let me know. .
 
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