Father Ripperger Four Stages of Courtship

[Ridgerunner]

I’ll try to remember to find it at home. It has been awhile. I will say that some of it is not accurate at all to my way of thinking, particularly the bias the author seems to have against the Scots-Irish and their culture. In some ways, they’re the “last Catholics left” even though not many are literally Catholic. Much of the American Church has gone “social reform Puritan”, seeing Christianity as a social reform movement rather than as a personal reform movement. Without personal reform, social reform is a “weak reed” that will “pierce the hand” of he who grasps it.

Let me add, too, that the “Deep South” is actually a rather small area. Most of the southern states is actually “upland south” which has a different culture and religious heritage altogether. Weirdly, the “upland south” actually extends outside what we think of as “the south”, e.g. southern Ohio, southern Indiana. One remembers form history that southern Indiana was the home of the “copperheads” during the Civil War.

 

[HomeschoolDad]

I’ll try to remember to find it at home. It has been awhile. I will say that some of it is not accurate at all to my way of thinking, particularly the bias the author seems to have against the Scots-Irish and their culture. In some ways, they’re the “last Catholics left” even though not many are literally Catholic. Much of the American Church has gone “social reform Puritan”, seeing Christianity as a social reform movement rather than as a personal reform movement. Without personal reform, social reform is a “weak reed” that will “pierce the hand” of he who grasps it.

Let me add, too, that the “Deep South” is actually a rather small area. Most of the southern states is actually “upland south” which has a different culture and religious heritage altogether. Weirdly, the “upland south” actually extends outside what we think of as “the south”, e.g. southern Ohio, southern Indiana. One remembers form history that southern Indiana was the home of the “copperheads” during the Civil War.

Oh, the southern parts of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois are definitely Southern, or probably a better way to put it, “more Southern than they are anything else”. On vacation last year, my son and I stayed in a little town called Gallipolis, Ohio, on the river across from West Virginia (famous for the Mothman legend and the Silver Bridge collapse in 1967), and while it was, as I said, “more Southern than… anything else”, still, you could just tell from the demeanor of the people, the speech, the customer service, and so on, that you were on the far outer fringes of what you would call “the South”. Interesting area. Somewhat resembles the Rhein River valley in Germany near Bonn.

Your book sounds somewhat like The Nine Nations of North America by Joel Garreau, but more like Colin Woodard’s American Nations. Fascinating stuff.

I’m going to let this portion of the thread go now, because “off-topic” is troublesome to some readers (even though I have no problem with it).

Here is Woodard’s map. Pretty darn accurate.

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