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LDNCatholic said:
What’s your practical experience?

If you think ‘‘The Muslims’’ are radical now just wait until some child is shot in the back running across the road to catch a bus.
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Cronulla riots, 2005, Sydney, Australia.
 
LDNCatholic said:
What’s your practical experience?

If you think ‘‘The Muslims’’ are radical now just wait until some child is shot in the back running across the road to catch a bus.
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On the one hand and ‘last night, another soldier . . .’ on the other.
 
Harmony1988 said:
Cronulla riots, 2005, Sydney, Australia.
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Hardly constitutes most Muslim demonstrations.

Anyway I’ll leave you go as you’ve very wisely decided to drop the debate over sending the army in to crack some skulls.
 
I don’t think Islamic Jihadism is really comparable with the IRA at all. But as much as I believe in millitary intervention in stopping terrorism, commissioning troops to muslim communities in domestic areas is quite counterproductive. This needs a cultural change in Britain. We Brits need to stand up for Liberal Democratic values, women’s rights, equality under the law.
 
grampben said:
I don’t think Islamic Jihadism is really comparable with the IRA at all.
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We’re comparing it to the Troubles only because one poster’s solution to the problem of Islamic extremism is to send the squaddies in. Regardless of ideals or modus operandi, if the military were sent in to, say Bradford to pacify tensions in between the Muslim and non Muslim communities, all it would take is a stray bullet, or perhaps even the fabricated story of a stray bullet (a la the Birmingham riots) to set everything off.

Mostly it is being mentioned because, whether involved or not, we Brits and Irish understand the implications of military force against civilian populations to a degree that I don’t think the Americans (or Australians) who push for it’s use can.
 
LDNCatholic said:
We’re comparing it to the Troubles only because one poster’s solution to the problem of Islamic extremism is to send the squaddies in. Regardless of ideals or modus operandi, if the military were sent in to, say Bradford to pacify tensions in between the Muslim and non Muslim communities, all it would take is a stray bullet, or perhaps even the fabricated story of a stray bullet (a la the Birmingham riots) to set everything off.

Mostly it is being mentioned because, whether involved or not, we Brits and Irish understand the implications of military force against civilian populations to a degree that I don’t think the Americans (or Australians) who push for it’s use can.
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Well unlike you (I presume) I’m all for wars of intervention to stop terrorism. However, militarty intervention domestically does not end extremism and fundamentalism. That requires social change and enlightenment.
 
A lot of people are self-appointed ‘experts’ on the troubles, and while we obviously can learn lessons from the past, there is a real danger of applying to solutions of that situation to any dispute involving extremism and division.
And for all my faults, I used to be strongly nationalist 😉
 
Definetely. That’s why I get annoyed at myself when I find myself arguing American politics here as I know I’m not living in that environment. Having said that, it would be arguable that American politics is more relevant to Brits/Irish/anyone in the world than British politics is to Americans.
 
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