Feds seek dismissal of Belmont Abbey College’s anti-HHS suit [CNA]

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Washington D.C., Feb 18, 2012 / 06:01 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Facing Belmont Abbey College’s legal challenge to the HHS contraception mandate, the Obama administration has asked a U.S. district court to dismiss the case. The move drew criticism from the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, which charged that the administration made no attempt to defend the constitutionality of the rule.

“Apparently, the administration has decided that the mandate, as written and finalized, is constitutionally indefensible,” contended Hannah Smith, senior council at the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, which is representing the Catholic college.

“Its only hope is to ask the court to look the other way based on an empty promise to possibly change the rules in the future.”

Department of Justice lawyers said the accommodation, announced Feb. 10, “will require health insurance issuers to offer group health insurance coverage without contraceptive coverage to non-profit religious organizations that object to contraceptive coverage and simultaneously to offer contraceptive coverage directly to such organization’s plan participants who desire it, at no charge.”

Because of the accommodation, the “safe harbor” period, and the possibility the school’s health plan is eligible to be grandfathered in, the government lawyers contended, the suit cannot demonstrate an “imminent injury” necessary for court action, the lawyers said in a Feb.16 motion to dismiss in the U.S. District Court of the District of Columbia.

But Smith was dismissive of the lawyers’ claim.

“Promises, promises. The administration is taking the remarkable position that announcing future plans at a press conference means the courts should ignore what the law on the books actually says.”

“Religious organizations are rightly skeptical that the government will fix the flagrant violation of religious liberty by commandeering the insurance industry,” she said in a Feb. 17 statement. “If this is the best the administration can do to defend its mandate, it won’t last long.”

Belmont Abbey College’s lawsuit challenged the mandate on the grounds it would substantially burden its First Amendment freedoms. The mandate requires all new insurance plans to cover, without a co-pay, FDA-approved methods of sterilization and contraception, including some abortion-causing drugs.

Catholic teaching recognizes sterilization and contraception as sinful, but the HHS has ruled that they qualify as “preventive health care” and will be covered under the 2010 health care legislation.

Failure to comply with the mandate could result in annual fines of $2,000 per employee.

While the mandate allows a religious exemption, the Benedictine-run Belmont Abbey College believes the exemption is so narrow that it does not qualify.

Both the original mandate and the proposed accommodation have come under heavy criticism.

Over 200 college presidents, academics, religious leaders and journalists have signed a letter denouncing the administration’s latest proposal. The Feb. 10 letter “Unacceptable,” organized by University of Notre Dame law professor O. Carter Snead, said the letter failed to remove “the assault on religious liberty.”

“It is an insult to the intelligence of Catholics, Protestants, Eastern Orthodox Christians, Jews, Muslims, and other people of faith and conscience to imagine that they will accept an assault on their religious liberty if only it is covered up by a cheap accounting trick,” the letter stated.

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I posted this on the other thread…but will repeat it here…

I’m no lawyer, but something that caught my eye in the Government’s argument to the court was that the issue was not yet “ripe” for judicial action. This seems to stem from two principles: 1) that the rules have not gone into effect yet and 2) the Status of the college (whether grandfathered or not) has not yet been established which effects the college’s standing before the court.

The court might accept this premise - to an extent - But I doubt that it would be sufficient to cause the court to simply dismiss the case. Rather the court might delay action for a set time and encourage the parties to seek a resolution.
By granting a delay, the court can send a very clear message that they are willing to give the parties some time, but that the court is taking the matter very seriously.

Even should the court dismiss the current case based on it’s not being “ripe”, this would not be a victory for the administration (though they would certainly spin it that way). All it would mean is that, unless they come up with something workable in the next weeks/months, the case will be refiled when it is more “ripe” for Judicial action.

Coincidentally this would be much closer to the general election…Something I would think the administration would want to avoid.

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James
 
Just about every lawsuit begins with a motion to dismiss. These actions in and of themselves don’t really mean anything.
 
Just about every lawsuit begins with a motion to dismiss. These actions in and of themselves don’t really mean anything.
But there has to be a law in place which the plaintiffs are damaged from.

Such is not the case, because the HHS mandate hasn’t gone into effect yet.
 
But there has to be a law in place which the plaintiffs are damaged from.

Such is not the case, because the HHS mandate hasn’t gone into effect yet.
Then why does it seem that, when a legislature passes some sort of abortion limiting bill, the ink isn’t even dry before suit is brought on constitutional grounds…?? 🤷

peace
James
 
Then why does it seem that, when a legislature passes some sort of abortion limiting bill, the ink isn’t even dry before suit is brought on constitutional grounds…?? 🤷

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James
Because the law goes into effect upon signing by the president.

If it’s not in effect, there plaintiff isn’t effected so their lawsuit is usually dismissed.

But, there is also politics involved here. Those who bring the lawsuit knowing it will get dismissed, are sending a message.

Jim
 
Because the law goes into effect upon signing by the president.

If it’s not in effect, there plaintiff isn’t effected so their lawsuit is usually dismissed.

But, there is also politics involved here. Those who bring the lawsuit knowing it will get dismissed, are sending a message.

Jim
Thanks - I can see that.

Peace
James
 
But there has to be a law in place which the plaintiffs are damaged from.

Such is not the case, because the HHS mandate hasn’t gone into effect yet.
Nearly every law suit challenging a law is filed before the law took effect. That was the case with the Texas Sonogram Law and the Challenge to proposition 8 in California.
 
As I understand it, the orignal HHS mandate has already been finalized by HHS. So it is in effect. The supposed “compromise” has apparently not even been published in the Federal Register yet.
 
Nearly every law suit challenging a law is filed before the law took effect. That was the case with the Texas Sonogram Law and the Challenge to proposition 8 in California.
But as in the case of prop 8, the courts didn’t hear the case until it became law.

Jim
 
But as in the case of prop 8, the courts didn’t hear the case until it became law.

Jim
The mandate is already law. In order to change it, there will need to be a change in the law, either by legislation or regulation.
 
The mandate is already law. In order to change it, there will need to be a change in the law, either by legislation or regulation.
No it’s not, because its part of the health care bill which doesn’t go into law until next year.

Also, it’s a regulation, which congress can repeal, which is in the works.

Unfortunately, the republicans blew it by having an all male panel.

Jim
 
No it’s not, because its part of the health care bill which doesn’t go into law until next year.

Also, it’s a regulation, which congress can repeal, which is in the works.

Unfortunately, the republicans blew it by having an all male panel.

Jim
The health care bill was signed into law in 2009. It has various parts which become effective at various times. The Secretary of HHS is authorized to promulgate regulations relating to nearly every aspect of the law, and the regulations also have the force of law. The original mandate to which everyone objected has already been published and finalized.
 
The health care bill was signed into law in 2009. It has various parts which become effective at various times. The Secretary of HHS is authorized to promulgate regulations relating to nearly every aspect of the law, and the regulations also have the force of law. The original mandate to which everyone objected has already been published and finalized.
But the contraception mandate has another year and Sebelius told the Catholic Church they have a year to come up with a plan to comply.

Anyway, I believe it’s next month that the SCOTUS, will here whether the health-insurance mandate is constitutional or not.

Should they rule it’s not, the contraception mandate debate will be moot.

Jim
 
But the contraception mandate has another year and Sebelius told the Catholic Church they have a year to come up with a plan to comply.

Anyway, I believe it’s next month that the SCOTUS, will here whether the health-insurance mandate is constitutional or not.

Should they rule it’s not, the contraception mandate debate will be moot.

Jim
It is still already law. The mandate was finalized and published in the federal register. It doesn’t matter that it doesn’t go in to effect until next year. It is still a law which will harm (or has already harmed someone). It doesn’t go into effect until next year, but companies have to begin shopping for a new insurance plan that they have to pay for which includes contraception/sterilization/abortificant drugs. They have to start notifying their employees about a change in the insurance policy.
 
But there has to be a law in place which the plaintiffs are damaged from.

Such is not the case, because the HHS mandate hasn’t gone into effect yet.
If that is the case, then why is SCOTUS hearing oral arguments over the individual mandate? That portion hasn’t gone into effect yet either.
 
If that is the case, then why is SCOTUS hearing oral arguments over the individual mandate? That portion hasn’t gone into effect yet either.
Mandate for compliance by states are already in effect.

One, health-insruance companies must allow parents to keep their kids on their policy until age 25. I’d like to the republicans revoke this, and see how it goes over.

Second, inruance companies must accept you, even with pre-conditions and insurance companies can’t drop you, should you come down with a costly illness.

Third, the mandate to purchase insurance, is already in the works as states have to set up administration for the law.

This is different than the Church and HHS reg issue, which hasn’t gone into effect yet.

That all being said, this is my understanding of which I’m open to correction.

After all, I don’t claim to be a lawyer on health insurance coverage.

Jim
 
Mandate for compliance by states are already in effect.

One, health-insruance companies must allow parents to keep their kids on their policy until age 25. I’d like to the republicans revoke this, and see how it goes over.

Second, inruance companies must accept you, even with pre-conditions and insurance companies can’t drop you, should you come down with a costly illness.

Third, the mandate to purchase insurance, is already in the works as states have to set up administration for the law.

This is different than the Church and HHS reg issue, which hasn’t gone into effect yet.

That all being said, this is my understanding of which I’m open to correction.

After all, I don’t claim to be a lawyer on health insurance coverage.

Jim
This is all true, but the individual mandate for individuals is not in effect yet. There are two individuals suing over that particular issue. The individual from Iowa who is a plaintiff began the suit in 2010, over 3 1/2 years before the mandate takes effect. Maybe there is some magic formula, kind of like the magic formula for determining when Easter is, that lawyers use to figure out when they can sue. 😛
 
If that is the case, then why is SCOTUS hearing oral arguments over the individual mandate? That portion hasn’t gone into effect yet either.
Actually the Supreme Court will be hearing arguments about why it should hear the arguments.
 
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