Feeling alone in my liberal university

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MontChevalier said:
What I had meant originally had been misunderstood and taken out of context. I was trying to describe them in the things that they did, not judge them, so that people here could understand what kind of guys I was meeting. Should I had been more crass and said that they were doing drugs? Or that the fact that their rude behavior is off-putting?

The limit is: PG, for these movies, and I wanted to keep it that way.
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You have likes and dislikes just as everyone has. Protestants judge Catholics wrong.
Catholics judge Protestants wrong. But it certainly dosen’t mean we hate and condemn
one another. I like your honesty. One of the things that is difficult is to be surrounded
by people who believe contrary to our faith. We have to be careful because some ideas
do rub off on to us if it is said often enough. Besides birds of a feather not only flock together but must flock together for safety sake. Jesus said to Peter, “Strengthen your
brothern.”
 
jwashu said:
Careful you might find a lot of faithfult Catholics that are “socialists”!!! What would you do then? What if they told you our Pope was farther left fiscally than any politician in the United States except for Dennis Kuchnich? While true I say that to make a point…

It seems to me you have already judged everyone at this university. Perhaps there are a lot of people that aren’t what they seem on the outside and/or perhaps you need to spend some time learning that your theories and understanding aren’t exactly what you thought they were…

Jesus hung out with all kinds of people to set the example… that’s always a good way to start.
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kelvinf said:
I think most people (catholics) go to “liberal” universities and work in liberal companies and live in liberal socities. 😉

I like the fact that you mentioned that forming a Catholic group seems like a lot of work. It is a lot of work man. Most singles here often complain about there not being single groups in their Churches bla bla bla. It’s difficult to form and keep such groups alive but there is always a starting point.

I recommend reading the book: The Introduction to the Devout Life by St. Francis De Sales. The book is geared at the laity living in the secular world–how to live a devout life in the midst of secular people…
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I just added the book to my amazon wishlist. That’s the saint of writers, right?
I only recently heard of him and he has my interest. 🙂 I also have the paperwork for making the group if anyone here is interested in helping me form it up, along with any advice on what to do and what not to do. 😛
jwashu said:
Careful you might find a lot of faithfult Catholics that are “socialists”!!! What would you do then? What if they told you our Pope was farther left fiscally than any politician in the United States except for Dennis Kuchnich? While true I say that to make a point…

It seems to me you have already judged everyone at this university. Perhaps there are a lot of people that aren’t what they seem on the outside and/or perhaps you need to spend some time learning that your theories and understanding aren’t exactly what you thought they were…

Jesus hung out with all kinds of people to set the example… that’s always a good way to start.
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Christ did not say, however, to do as they do, which seems to be a requirement of people to be accepted these days. And I would know, since the last time I was in a group, I was put into peer pressure to drink a cup of tequila, which I did not want to do, but ended up doing anyway. :mad: So, no, I don’t appreciate people telling me my judgement is wrong, when I have situations like this presenting themselves.
 
. Firstly, you are inevitably going to end up being surrounded by people you disagree with at some point in your life. If you can’t insulate yourself forever, you may as well learn to get along with those people.

Secondly, I would avoid judging people so completely just from their political views. One might not know it from spending some time on these forums, but there’s more to a person than just being a liberal or a conservative.

I find this idea that a person is so utterly encapsulated by his politics and that alone is justification to despise a person rather upsetting, in part because if I were to take adopt your view, in one direction or another, I would have to disown at least one of my parents. And of course, around here I apparently may as well be as left wing as being a Marxian socialist, though in reality I’m not even an inch to the left of center.
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ringil:
I didn’t even know what a strumpet was! Pretty old-school.
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I didn’t know it either. I was hoping it was something rather innocent, though dictionary.com has enlightened me. It is certainly un-Christian to call someone that as well.
 
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MontChevalier:
Christ did not say, however, to do as they do, which seems to be a requirement of people to be accepted these days. And I would know, since the last time I was in a group, I was put into peer pressure to drink a cup of tequila, which I did not want to do, but ended up doing anyway. So, no, I don’t appreciate people telling me my judgement is wrong, when I have situations like this presenting themselves.
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Christ certainly didn’t advise us to disdain them either, that’s for sure. Nothing needs to prevent any devout Catholic (or even a ‘devout conservative’) from being socially active and comfortable at a largely liberal or secular university, though it may take some effort. one needs to compartmentalize. I go to a secular private university, though I suppose I’m more fortunate in that my school is a nerdy school rather than a party school or any sort of modern Gomorrah. And of course I don’t find liberalism so uniformly repulsive.

It’s unfortunate that you were pressured into drinking tequila. I sympathize with you as I never drink (accept a little in countries where it’s legal for me). I hate it when friends try to insist that I drink. Don’t be ashamed of not drinking, just be persistent in refusing. Eventually they’ll have to respect your refusal. They may suspect you of being a mormon though. 😛
 
Raskolnikov said:
It’s unfortunate that you were pressured into drinking tequila. I sympathize with you as I never drink (accept a little in countries where it’s legal for me). I hate it when friends try to insist that I drink. Don’t be ashamed of not drinking, just be persistent in refusing. Eventually they’ll have to respect your refusal. They may suspect you of being a mormon though. 😛
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Wow Raskolnikov,

I hadn’t pictured you as a young person! Your clarity or expression is excellent! BRAVO on such a fine mastery of the language at such a young age. Most kids can’t write worth squat nowadays; you give me hope.

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aicirt said:
Personally, I don’t have a problem with the words the Poster picked to describe the person. I’m sure she would not yell that to her on the campus. But the woman she’s describing is one we all know exists. She willing to get herself out there promoting abortion, birth control, sex without responsibility, fornication, men are pigs philosophy and, through her rants, carry away others into sin. So she’s no angel.
My peeve is when reporters describe rapists, muggers etc. as “gentlemen”. Really?
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I don’t know if you were just using “she” or “her” in reference to me for singular (pro)noun agreement but for the record…

I’m a man.

😃 Just sayin’.
 
I understand if you don’t want to say, but I am wondering what is your major? Is it really that specific that so few college/Univs. offer it? I take it you are in the USA since you meantioned Obama ruining the country… and that you have transfered from a few other places. Did all those places have the same problems as this one?

Do none of the Catholic Colleges/Univ offer your major?

I understand your OP as being more of a vent than you judging people. You’re frustrated, I think.
 
ringil said:
I didn’t even know what a strumpet was! Pretty old-school. 😃
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Yes, according the Google’s Ngram analysis of books it has digitized, the word gained popularity in 1800, hit its peak usage in 1815, then went into a steep decline.
ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?content=strumpet&year_start=1760&year_end=2000&corpus=0&smoothing=3

There was minor blip of popularity between 1925-1960. Then it slipped back into disfavor.

Obviously, calling a woman a strumpet, or any of the more common terms in modern use, is uncharitable. I think its use says at least as much about the person saying it as about the person it is applied to. The use of less judgmental, and more descriptive, words would be better.

Of course, the OP is venting in this thread. And that is okay. But he should be aware that the use of that word, or words similar to it, is not acceptable.
 
Dale_M said:
Yes, according the Google’s Ngram analysis of books it has digitized, the word gained popularity in 1800, hit its peak usage in 1815, then went into a steep decline.
ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?content=strumpet&year_start=1760&year_end=2000&corpus=0&smoothing=3

There was minor blip of popularity between 1925-1960. Then it slipped back into disfavor.

Obviously, calling a woman a strumpet, or any of the more common terms in modern use, is uncharitable. I think its use says at least as much about the person saying it as about the person it is applied to. The use of less judgmental, and more descriptive, words would be better.

Of course, the OP is venting in this thread. And that is okay. But he should be aware that the use of that word, or words similar to it, is not acceptable.
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I used strumpet as an alternative for trollop not whore.

Trollops have an offensive and militant personality.

If one had the displeasure to encounter one of these abortion pamphlet carrying, contraceptive loving trolls, then he would understand why I use that description.

I, for one, do not allow them to pass out their Satanic literature without confrontation. Unfortunately, it always ends the same with a horde of them defaulting to name calling and shouting.

The word of God angers them much like a vampire to a crucifix.

I’m reminded of the movie Inherit the Wind.
Language is a poor enough means of communication. I think we should use all the words we’ve got.
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Orwell warned us of what happens when we don’t have the words necessary to describe evil.
 
Dale_M said:
Yes, according the Google’s Ngram analysis of books it has digitized, the word gained popularity in 1800, hit its peak usage in 1815, then went into a steep decline.
ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?content=strumpet&year_start=1760&year_end=2000&corpus=0&smoothing=3

There was minor blip of popularity between 1925-1960. Then it slipped back into disfavor.

Obviously, calling a woman a strumpet, or any of the more common terms in modern use, is uncharitable. I think its use says at least as much about the person saying it as about the person it is applied to. The use of less judgmental, and more descriptive, words would be better.

Of course, the OP is venting in this thread. And that is okay. But he should be aware that the use of that word, or words similar to it, is not acceptable.
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I agree with this completely. I find labeling a dangerous, destructive, and malicious practice. I am an ambitious, outspoken, and motivated female, and many have labeled me nasty things without knowing one iota of my values.
 
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                             I agree with this completely.  I find labeling a dangerous,  destructive, and malicious practice.  I am an ambitious, outspoken, and  motivated female, and many have labeled me nasty things without knowing  one iota of my values.
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This situation is different. These people are actively handing out fliers with their beliefs on them.
 
ExLibris said:
If one had the displeasure to encounter one of these abortion pamphlet carrying, contraceptive loving trolls, then he would understand why I use that description.

I, for one, do not allow them to pass out their Satanic literature without confrontation. Unfortunately, it always ends the same with a horde of them defaulting to name calling and shouting.

The word of God angers them much like a vampire to a crucifix.
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Wow. And you wonder why the situation defaults to name calling. You’ve already called them trolls, trollops, strumpets and something akin to vampires in your mind. Do you really think your entire demeanor doesn’t convey what you’re thinking without you ever needing to say it?
 
I went to Baylor and helped start the first ever on campus student association, it was a lot of hard work, and surprisingly political but worth it. Having said that, the process never really fulfilled my desire to serve others since i was dealing mostly with paper work, so I went on over to the Baptist Associations and started volunteering as a tutor for underprivlidged kids. Baptist liked me so much that they gave me a leadership position inside the organization, you will be surprised how much you have in common with those protestants when it comes down to helping others

That said you will come upon narrow minded people from time to time, for instance in order for me to get the leadership position the supervisor, an adult working for theUniversity pulled me aside and said hey I know your Catholic and that y’all like to get drunk and stuff just want you to know that this job prohibits you from drinking, you still want it?
Also: Pope wears a hat to cover up his horns (comment from student in cafeteria)
 
ConcernedApathy said:
Wow. And you wonder why the situation defaults to name calling. You’ve already called them trolls, trollops, strumpets and something akin to vampires in your mind. Do you really think your entire demeanor doesn’t convey what you’re thinking without you ever needing to say it?
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I’m not surprised pagan barbarians get upset when one attacks their radical ideology of rebellion.
 
Maybe you could try starting the Catholic club 🙂 maybe then you’ll meet like-minded people! even though I agree it’s a lot of work. You could start by maybe finding people who might be interested, and then form a team and start the club together 🙂

God bless!
 
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