Feeling really upset about AL

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Right. The rest of us continue to get cold bbureaucracy and one small group gets warmth and light.

I don’t mean to sound jealous or anything, but J have spent over 20 years not being jealous. Not complaining, instead offering things up, struggling alone, and why should I continue that road? Hey, Pope Francis, the people in irregular marriages who can’t receive communion are not the only ones out here crying! Its just that the rest of us are crying quietly, privately, the way the Church tells us to. You know people who are in these situations and your heart went out to them, what about the rest of us?
 
The problem appears that no one knows what Amoris Laetitia says or means. It is one of the reason I dont read anything the Pope is claimed to have said. If a publication writes that he said something, in about 2 days other publication will write that what the other publication wrote wasnt what the Pope said. He seems to be the most misquoted Pope in my life time. But to answer your question, Priest dont have a lot of time to help. So take what someone says the pope said with a large grain of salt.
 
Right. The rest of us continue to get cold bbureaucracy and one small group gets warmth and light.

I don’t mean to sound jealous or anything, but J have spent over 20 years not being jealous. Not complaining, instead offering things up, struggling alone, and why should I continue that road? Hey, Pope Francis, the people in irregular marriages who can’t receive communion are not the only ones out here crying! Its just that the rest of us are crying quietly, privately, the way the Church tells us to. You know people who are in these situations and your heart went out to them, what about the rest of us?
At the same time, we are asked not to be envious because God is generous.
It’s a tough task.
 
Right. The rest of us continue to get cold bbureaucracy and one small group gets warmth and light.

I don’t mean to sound jealous or anything, but J have spent over 20 years not being jealous. Not complaining, instead offering things up, struggling alone, and why should I continue that road? Hey, Pope Francis, the people in irregular marriages who can’t receive communion are not the only ones out here crying! Its just that the rest of us are crying quietly, privately, the way the Church tells us to. You know people who are in these situations and your heart went out to them, what about the rest of us?
Our Holy Father has never for a moment suggested that a single member of the faithful deserves “cold bureaucracy” under any circumstances. He has repeatedly and clearly told his priests exactly the opposite.

Since you yourself could not receive Holy Communion for six years, you know what that is like! Saying that members of the faithful in that situation are in particular need of “accompaniment” does not say for a second that you were not. It does not say the accompaniment that is the ideal is always going to happen, either.

I don’t think your children are the only ones in need of counselling or spiritual direction to get beyond the residual hurt you feel from the sufferings you went through and the intense loneliness you felt. There are many of us who had to raise our children Catholic without the help of our spouses, but not everyone had the same experience. Realize that you went through something very hard with less help than you needed. Realize that even children from families with two well-formed Catholic parents who were pillors of their parish sometimes leave the Church, much to the great sadness of their parents, while children from families with much more difficulty are stalwart Catholics when they become adults. There are many things luring people away, not just the difficult situation you went through.

You didn’t get the help you needed when you needed it, but it is not too late to find the help you need to help you through what you are suffering right now. It is very clear that you are still suffering right now. If you read the Pope’s pronouncement as some indication that you have no real needs and the priests can just ignore you, get some help! That is not at all what he meant! He would say, however, that he is not the one who needs defending but you are the one who needs comfort and healing. Yes, though, because of the shortages we have, you have to be proactive and go out and look for it until you find it. Ask God to send you this help. Be as insistent as the widow who badgered the unjust judge in Our Lord’s parable!! In my experience, my prayer did not always supply what I wanted, but it has always supplied what I needed, often from a source I did not expect but sometimes directly from Heaven itself. Be willing to take whatever help is sent, whether it is what you envisioned or not, trust that help will come. It will come.
 
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My first thought reading your thread is: Luke 15. More joy in heaven over one sinner who repented (that’s those in irregular marriages) over ninety-nine righteous who need no repentance (that’s you).

They need the Priest with them to bring them closer to Christ, you were close all along. Rather than dwell on this regret, pray for them and you will remain close to Christ, and closer.
 
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The synod on the family was rigged by heretical Kasperites - Pentin has written a book about it.
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I don’t mean to be harsh, but this really reminds me of the worker who worked one hour getting a whole day’s wage, with the workers who worked longer complaining. “Do you complain because of my kindness?”

I know you have gone through a lot. But, let us not hold harsh feelings. It can be difficult. Pray much! Ask to offer this up as well! Do not be afraid to tell Jesus of how you feel.
 
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The situation with regard to AL is no joke - it represents a serious threat to the integrity of the apostolic teachings on the Sacraments and undermines the entirety of the moral law.

There are some here who scoff or bury their heads in the sand. Perhaps they’re recent converts or have had no in depth exposure to theology or traditional expressions of the Faith. However, Cardinals and experts have very real concerns. Some have risked their careers for speaking the truth in charity. The situation is grave - and certainly no laughing matter.
 
I may be a recent convert. And I will come fully into The Church at The Easter Vigil. But please do not presume that I am ignorant in regards to AL. Nor am I ignorant in the Catholic Traditions or Teachings. BTW, AL is not considered EX Cathedra. (I bet you thought I didn’t know what that means)
 
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But please do not presume that I am ignorant in regards to AL.
You understand AL but you scoff and ridicule my posts on this thread - posts which do nothing but share the many and varied concerns of Cardinals and professional theologians.

I see you decided to resubmit your cartoon of Casper. It’s a pity Cardinal Kasper isn’t friendly towards the constant teaching of the Church.
 
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You are entitled to share your opinion, as am I.
(AL is contencious to say the least.)
But you run the danger when one of your sources is heretical. And yes, I did resubmit it. Humor goes a long way.
 
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But you run the danger when one of your sources is heretical
What source is heretical?
And yes, I did resubmit it. Humor goes a long way.
I can’t laugh when the Sacred Deposit of Faith is threatened or when adulterors are given Holy Communion. I can laugh as much as the next man, but not at sacrilege and doctrinal confusion.
 
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Whoops sorry! You said the Kasperites were heretical. I misquoted. Mea culpa.
 
If only God had become one of us was mocked, spat on and ridiculed, then suffered immense and immeasurable suffering on a cross for the sins of others. We’d have a way to help you through these feelings of abandonment, and resentment…oh wait he did.
Matthew 20

“For the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. 2 After agreeing with the laborers for a denarius[a] a day, he sent them into his vineyard. 3 And going out about the third hour he saw others standing idle in the market place; 4 and to them he said, ‘You go into the vineyard too, and whatever is right I will give you.’ So they went. 5 Going out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hour, he did the same. 6 And about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing; and he said to them, ‘Why do you stand here idle all day?’ 7 They said to him, ‘Because no one has hired us.’ He said to them, ‘You go into the vineyard too.’ 8 And when evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his steward, ‘Call the laborers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last, up to the first.’ 9 And when those hired about the eleventh hour came, each of them received a denarius. 10 Now when the first came, they thought they would receive more; but each of them also received a denarius. 11 And on receiving it they grumbled at the householder, 12 saying, ‘These last worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the day and the scorching heat.’ 13 But he replied to one of them, ‘Friend, I am doing you no wrong; did you not agree with me for a denarius? 14 Take what belongs to you, and go; I choose to give to this last as I give to you. 15 Am I not allowed to do what I choose with what belongs to me? Or do you begrudge my generosity?’ 16 So the last will be first, and the first last.”
Hold fast to your faith. We all get our just reward in the end
 
Who needs Jesus more? The sick or the well? I do not think every situation is the same for everyone. Pope Francis is being pastoral.
 
Ultimately it is for GOD to decide. And He will not let anything malignant happen to His Church.
 
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