Feminisms effect on women

[strngrnrth]

Dale_M;3617013]

Right. But…
(advocating) If so, then who are we to alter God’s explanation by condoning feminism? He said this is the way it is, because Eve ate from the tree. This was all His plan. Who are we to alter His plan by condoning feminism?

The curse wasn’t God’s original plan or His perfect will. It was a result of our separation from Him, which He has already partially remedied through the Incarnation and Jesus’ entire life, ministry, teachings, death and resurrection. The curse includes death, which we are allowed adn encouraged to fight and forbidden to promote. It includes hard agricultural labor, which our economic progress through the millennia has served to overcome. It includes hated foods, a lack of foods we want, which our economic progress has also fought all this time. Indeed, the Bible includes Solomon’s words that we should eat honey. We aren’t supposed to embrace the effects of the curse as a good thing, but to work to overcome them while bearing in mind that we suffered such things for a reason.

 

[neat62]

My daughter was 13 and almost had to be institutionalized for depression and PTSS- I’m glad she never ran - into the “compassionate conservatives” here.Lack of compassion and loving kindness were one of the mainstays of prophecy and continued with Jesus.I’ve seen women suffer terribly and hide their attack like it was some kinda of sin and not a crime- thanks to some of the thinking here. Just to make sure -I wasn’t getting on your case strngrnrth-I love to see smugness in the light of other people’s’pain.

Its too bad she didn’t run into me…cause I would have taught her how to move past rape and stop being a victim…especially since I had been through it myself!

And your post, doesn’t do a whole lot to demonstrate your “compassion or tolerance” of anyone.

 

[leftistdestroye]

juliamajor;3617012]

HAVE YOU BEEN RAPED? DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY WHO HAS?

I know a handful who have. Well, at least they have claimed to be, like it was some sort of “look at me” medal to be worn and told to anyone who will listen. Hell, my own sister claimed that she was, but, she really wasn’t. Regret for having sex, is not rape.

But of course, real rape does happen, I am not doubting that one bit. But with false accusations flying around?? You want equality? Then let’s be equal. I want just as aggressive men’s protection laws.

 

[neat62]

The curse wasn’t God’s original plan or His perfect will. It was a result of our separation from Him, which He has already partially remedied through the Incarnation and Jesus’ entire life, ministry, teachings, death and resurrection. The curse includes death, which we are allowed adn encouraged to fight and forbidden to promote. It includes hard agricultural labor, which our economic progress through the millennia has served to overcome. It includes hated foods, a lack of foods we want, which our economic progress has also fought all this time. Indeed, the Bible includes Solomon’s words that we should eat honey. We aren’t supposed to embrace the effects of the curse as a good thing, but to work to overcome them while bearing in mind that we suffered such things for a reason.

The “curse” as you put it…was not something God “gave” us…it was something the devil did…he gave us death and when Christ became man, He defeated death through His Crucifixion and Resurrection. He has offered us now, eternal life, but only if we follow His way…if we allow Him to lead us in ALL things…and if we receive His Body, Blood, and Divinity through the Holy Eucharist. But to receive, one must be in a state of grace that is open to receiving…we are not to have “mortal sin” on our souls and for the sins we have committed we are to have true remorse and sorrow and be seeking His mercy, with the promise to avoid the near occasion of sin.

How can we then, do the above, if we continue to turn our back on some of His teachings…those we don’t agree with…picking and choosing as we go? Simply put…we can’t.

 

[leftistdestroye]

juliamajor;3617127]

My daughter was 13 and almost had to be institutionalized for depression and PTSS- I’m glad she never ran - into the “compassionate conservatives” here.Lack of compassion and loving kindness were one of the mainstays of prophecy and continued with Jesus.I’ve seen women suffer terribly and hide their attack like it was some kinda of sin and not a crime- thanks to some of the thinking here. Just to make sure -I wasn’t getting on your case strngrnrth-I love to see smugness in the light of other people’s’pain.

And the men in prison? Wrongfully convicted by false accusations of rape? Flip them, right? All that matters is women, right? Where is their protection and compassion? Surely not found in the compassionate arms of Bubba?

 

[leftistdestroye]

strngrnrth;3617133]

The curse wasn’t God’s original plan or His perfect will. It was a result of our separation from Him, which He has already partially remedied through the Incarnation and Jesus’ entire life, ministry, teachings, death and resurrection. The curse includes death, which we are allowed adn encouraged to fight and forbidden to promote. It includes hard agricultural labor, which our economic progress through the millennia has served to overcome. It includes hated foods, a lack of foods we want, which our economic progress has also fought all this time. Indeed, the Bible includes Solomon’s words that we should eat honey. We aren’t supposed to embrace the effects of the curse as a good thing, but to work to overcome them while bearing in mind that we suffered such things for a reason.

So…we are out to challenge God? We are out to beat Him? And are we to overcome the effects by using feminism?(that was what this whole discussion was about) And all of the negative unintended consequences of it? We have improved agriculture, but we are still dependand on it. We will still die, always. Childbirth is still painful. We should accept the curse as it is. As He meant it to be.

 

[SeekingCatholic]

HAVE YOU BEEN RAPED? DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY WHO HAS?

There’s no excuse for false rape accusations or not protecting the rights of the accused in rape cases. If you think there is, then you’re the one with the problem.

Unless you have I’d suggest you stop your 'women are always to blame crud.

Always nice to argue against a straw man. Unfortunately it’s just a little intellectually dishonest.

I know plenty of women and more especially young girls-who’ve never reported because of attitudes like your’s.

I accept zero blame for that. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my attitude. And I absolutely refuse to kowtow to the typical female emotional-manipulative tactics you are attempting to use here.

You can quote all you’re"facts" as much as you want but unless you’ve lived it or lived with the results it you’ll never know what people who are raped go through or what there families have to see their kids suffer through.Highest rate of substance abuse,highest suicide rates in girls are the result of rape and molestation.Depression, Post traumatic stress syndrome are just the top of the iceberg for this devastating crime…

You have selective outrage. What about men whose lives are ruined by false accusations? Do they count? Where’s your outrage towards all these women who, apparently, are making false claims of rape.

What you think you know is not reality. I’ve in my lifetime met one person who spouse was murdered,2- who’ve been mugged and seven women who have been raped and NOT reported it but have suffered in silence. I pray you are someone you love NEVER has to go through it

Yeah well I could say the same thing about being falsely accused of a crime. Women don’t have a monopoly on suffering and claims of compassion. Men are human too and deserving of just as considerations as such. I have nothing but contempt for “womenfirsters”.

 

[Naztakuan]

Naztakuan;3615244]

If they are demanding that the Church adapt to them, their wants, or society, then yes, they should be free to leave. And the point of Church, is to praise God. And by praising God, we accept His Word and Laws. We do not tell Him that we will only practice what we want to. And we are not making it sound like a club, that is how you take it. We are just fed up with these…new, Catholics, who condone abortion and such by lobbying for it or voting for people who sustain it. There is a difference between sinning, and not accepting or “picking” which doctrine to practice. ** A sin is a mistake or weakness, the other is deliberate./**QUOTE]

Wait…what? So if an abortion is deliberate it’s not a sin? Well no wonder so many people have abortions. It’s my understanding that a sin is a deliberate evil whilst a mistake is not always, If I mistake my brother’s lunch for mine and take his and he doesn’t eat, That was no sin because I didn’t make that choice deliberately. If I purposfully stole his lunch, then it’s a sin.
Maybe you were referring to the category of sin.
There are sins of the flesh, sins of betrayal, sins of pride, envy, theft/dishonesty, malice/violence, divination/witchcraft. They are all sins. Actually sins of the flesh like gluttony or lust would probably less serious than sins of malice like bombing people. Sins of the flesh only become sins when things that are by nature good are used in excess or in a disordered way. Bombing your neighbor is never a good. Perhaps that’s why Dante had his hell designed that way.
hhhknights.com/curr/human/2/hellinferno.html

sins of passion seem to be punished less severely than premeditated sins like Treason mutiny or apostasy. When you deliberately abort your baby, it is a sin but so was the fornication that lead up to it’s conception. The only reason why it’s harder for girls to decide on whether or not to keep it is because it’s unnatural. It is my experience that Christians seem to better at refraining from planned sin than sin of compulsion. An example says that a recent survey that religious people had better general health than non religious, but they were often heavier. It seems to me that religious people tend to overeat more often than nonchristians or at least not care so much about weight as a secular person would. Also if a Christian were in fact to have premarital sex, it would end in pregnancy because it simply wasn’t planned like a secular couple.
Sin hasn’t necessarily increased in our society but when you make it acceptable, it is planned in advance to mitigate any consequences. I know what you are trying to say which is that now people are planning to sin long before they commit it, as opposed to commiting it within a brief moment of weakness. Many women who actually grew up in the pre-feminist era admitted to having sex before marriage contrary to popular belief. HOWEVER,The difference was that the person you fornicated with would usually end up being your spouse within a short period of time. But now the person you fornicate with, you will probably never see again and definetly not marry. Premarital sex was frowned upon by society true, but it doesn’t mean teenagers didn’t sneak and fool around ever. It was just more shameful to talk about. Also, it’s frequency was probably even lower. As opposed to engaging in planned fornication every week, young people may have engaged in such behavior on rare unplanned occassions like just one time the year before they got married. I think that’s what modern sex education actually means when they say “abstinence doesn’t work”. *Of course *it works BUT people are weak so if a person firmly decides not to have sex and they happen to experience a severe moment of weakness, they haven’t planned for it so the result ispregnancy.
It’s like following a healthy diet and exercise regimen vs taking a pill to keep from getting fat. Doctors say that you should modify your lifestyle, not take a pill. But one takes will and planning. The other does not. At least if you mess up on your diet, you know how to get back to how you were before. If your diet pill stops working and you never knew how to eat right or exercise to begin with, you’ll either continue to gain weight or you’ll try to find another quick fix. I study health so It’s easier for me to use metaphors about diet/fitness when explaining sin. It’s one thing to cave in to eating that hamburger, it’s another to intentionally dope up in order to win. ABC and abstiance have virtually the same desired result which is “no baby” but the abc, much like a steroid or a diet pill will make you dependant. You don’t learn anything about your body or self discipline. You just reap alot of the goodies…that is until your arm explodes after injecting too many steroids.

 

[edwest2]

I’m surprised and disappointed by many of the sweeping generalizations in this thread. It seems I had naively assumed that the majority of people have come to understand and accept that men and women are different, but equals. Based on the rude stereotypes of feminists and women in general, I can see this is not true.

I have to consider how much of me is shaped by feminist theory:

I don’t want to be treated like a man - I want to be respected for being exactly woman. I don’t need to be and I should never be compared to a man to gauge my abilities or intellect. I am pro-life and along with large organizations of pro-life feminists believe that abortion is frequently a tool for submission. I don’t want my natural fertility to be controlled or curbed for anyone else’s convenience - there are feminists who are against the pill as they view that it weakens the woman’s position in a sexual relationship. I don’t have to stay home 24 hours a day to be a good mother or wife and my husband doesn’t have to stay home 24 hours a day to be a good husband or father. Equal, but different.

I’m particularly staunch about my position on pornography and the sex industry. My opinion grew first from reading feminist work and not from religious influence. No real feminist supports pornography - the subjugation of women for profit where women are objectified for the satisfaction of men? Please! It’s offensive to women. The loudest outcry against the recent PETA ads featuring nude women or women dressed provocatively for advertising, comes from feminists. Women who say something like that is “empowering” will often admit that their sexuality is often the only thing they have control of. They don’t believe they can control other aspects of their lives.

It is my understanding of the feminism I embrace that the goal is not to seek revenge against the male sex or to seek power, but to reach a place where sex is a non-issue - roles still exist but only those that are determined by nature (ie. men can’t physically birth or breastfeed, but they sure can help cook and clean.) We’d find a place where making a joke about the “little woman” needing to be coddled isn’t funny simply because no one would believe it could ever true.

Male-female relationships should be based on mutual respect. Feminism, or Women’s Lib, as presented by the National Organization for Women was divisive, victimizing and not solution oriented. It was anti-family and healing was not the goal, only an eternal struggle against the eternal enemy - men.

The primary issues of our time revolve around human sexuality. One in four girls in the United States have an STD. Artificial contraception. Cohabitation and a turn away from committed, lifelong relationships. Embryonic stem cell research. Abortion. Gay marriage. All of these things things have been identified as a threat to the family by the Catholic Church.

The feminism espoused by NOW in the 1970s was just another revolution - a form of class warfare. It was and is unBiblical. And it was an attempt at social engineering.

Calling prostitution an industry gives it an inappropriate normalcy.

God bless,
Ed

 

[neat62]

There’s no excuse for false rape accusations or not protecting the rights of the accused in rape cases. If you think there is, then you’re the one with the problem.

Always nice to argue against a straw man. Unfortunately it’s just a little intellectually dishonest.

I accept zero blame for that. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my attitude. And I absolutely refuse to kowtow to the typical female emotional-manipulative tactics you are attempting to use here.

You have selective outrage. What about men whose lives are ruined by false accusations? Do they count? Where’s your outrage towards all these women who, apparently, are making false claims of rape.

Yeah well I could say the same thing about being falsely accused of a crime. Women don’t have a monopoly on suffering and claims of compassion. Men are human too and deserving of just as considerations as such. I have nothing but contempt for “womenfirsters”.

Well said! :clapping:

 

[neat62]

leftistdestroye;3616911:

Naztakuan;3615244]

If they are demanding that the Church adapt to them, their wants, or society, then yes, they should be free to leave. And the point of Church, is to praise God. And by praising God, we accept His Word and Laws. We do not tell Him that we will only practice what we want to. And we are not making it sound like a club, that is how you take it. We are just fed up with these…new, Catholics, who condone abortion and such by lobbying for it or voting for people who sustain it. There is a difference between sinning, and not accepting or “picking” which doctrine to practice. ** A sin is a mistake or weakness, the other is deliberate./**

QUOTE]

Wait…what? So if an abortion is deliberate it’s not a sin? Well no wonder so many people have abortions. It’s my understanding that a sin is a deliberate evil whilst a mistake is not always, If I mistake my brother’s lunch for mine and take his and he doesn’t eat, That was no sin because I didn’t make that choice deliberately. If I purposfully stole his lunch, then it’s a sin.
Maybe you were referring to the category of sin.
There are sins of the flesh, sins of betrayal, sins of pride, envy, theft/dishonesty, malice/violence, divination/witchcraft. They are all sins. Actually sins of the flesh like gluttony or lust would probably less serious than sins of malice like bombing people. Sins of the flesh only become sins when things that are by nature good are used in excess or in a disordered way. Bombing your neighbor is never a good. Perhaps that’s why Dante had his hell designed that way.
hhhknights.com/curr/human/2/hellinferno.html

sins of passion seem to be punished less severely than premeditated sins like Treason mutiny or apostasy. When you deliberately abort your baby, it is a sin but so was the fornication that lead up to it’s conception. The only reason why it’s harder for girls to decide on whether or not to keep it is because it’s unnatural. It is my experience that Christians seem to better at refraining from planned sin than sin of compulsion. An example says that a recent survey that religious people had better general health than non religious, but they were often heavier. It seems to me that religious people tend to overeat more often than nonchristians or at least not care so much about weight as a secular person would. Also if a Christian were in fact to have premarital sex, it would end in pregnancy because it simply wasn’t planned like a secular couple.
Sin hasn’t necessarily increased in our society but when you make it acceptable, it is planned in advance to mitigate any consequences. I know what you are trying to say which is that now people are planning to sin long before they commit it, as opposed to commiting it within a brief moment of weakness. Many women who actually grew up in the pre-feminist era admitted to having sex before marriage contrary to popular belief. HOWEVER,The difference was that the person you fornicated with would usually end up being your spouse within a short period of time. But now the person you fornicate with, you will probably never see again and definetly not marry. Premarital sex was frowned upon by society true, but it doesn’t mean teenagers didn’t sneak and fool around ever. It was just more shameful to talk about. Also, it’s frequency was probably even lower. As opposed to engaging in planned fornication every week, young people may have engaged in such behavior on rare unplanned occassions like just one time the year before they got married. I think that’s what modern sex education actually means when they say “abstinence doesn’t work”. *Of course *it works BUT people are weak so if a person firmly decides not to have sex and they happen to experience a severe moment of weakness, they haven’t planned for it so the result ispregnancy.
It’s like following a healthy diet and exercise regimen vs taking a pill to keep from getting fat. Doctors say that you should modify your lifestyle, not take a pill. But one takes will and planning. The other does not. At least if you mess up on your diet, you know how to get back to how you were before. If your diet pill stops working and you never knew how to eat right or exercise to begin with, you’ll either continue to gain weight or you’ll try to find another quick fix. I study health so It’s easier for me to use metaphors about diet/fitness when explaining sin. It’s one thing to cave in to eating that hamburger, it’s another to intentionally dope up in order to win. ABC and abstiance have virtually the same desired result which is “no baby” but the abc, much like a steroid or a diet pill will make you dependant. You don’t learn anything about your body or self discipline. You just reap alot of the goodies…that is until your arm explodes after injecting too many steroids.

Nice selective reading skills…how about re-reading what he stated? He said, quiet clearly, that when you deliberately commit sin…such as abortion, you are held accountable.

And again, you don’t correct one wrong, by committing another…i.e, if you “choose” to have sex in a moment of “weakness”…then you still MUST deal with the possible consequence of pregnancy…you can’t just say…"well, I’ll go out and “choose” to abort the baby so my “moment of weakness” doesn’t turn into a lifetime “burden”.

As for the comments about steroids and all of that…you lost me completely…not sure at all of what you are trying to convey??

 

[Dale_M]

(advocating) If so, then who are we to alter God’s explanation by condoning feminism? He said this is the way it is, because Eve ate from the tree. This was all His plan. Who are we to alter His plan by condoning feminism?

I don’t think the verse has anything to do with feminism. It was an explanation of why things were as they were, not a statement of how things should be for all times.

Note:
For those of you who haven’t been following this, we are discussing Genesis 3:16

To the woman he said: “I will intensify the pangs of your childbearing; in pain shall you bring forth children. Yet your urge shall be for your husband, and he shall be your master.”

nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/genesis/genesis3.htm

The above quote was from the New American Bible. Here is the verse from the Revised Standard Version:

To the woman he said, “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”

 

[Carolinagirl411]

Ok Leftdestroyer and Seeking Catholic

You guys seem to be the main male voices in this discussion arguing against the women and how they aren’t considering the damages done by feminism.

If you don’t mind…Outline how you would like women to be.

I say a woman should hold a job, you guys argue with that but you also argue against a woman mooching money off of a man…so what is the deal?

Are there any positive effects of feminism for women/men? Or do you prefer the victorian society where women are covered from neck to toe, and stay at home to have as many children as possible, are not allowed to say no to their husbands if they don’t feel like sex due to illness or just lack of interest, and aren’t allowed to leave the house without male escorts. Also they aren’t even allowed to vote!

Come on guys…what would YOUR ideal woman be. I am very curious b/c I want to understand both of you better. and also how would you like society to be in your perfect world in regard to rape laws or whatever laws you seem to have problems with!

 

[neat62]

Ok Leftdestroyer and Seeking Catholic

You guys seem to be the main male voices in this discussion arguing against the women and how they aren’t considering the damages done by feminism.

If you don’t mind…Outline how you would like women to be.

I say a woman should hold a job, you guys argue with that but you also argue against a woman mooching money off of a man…so what is the deal?

Are there any positive effects of feminism for women/men? Or do you prefer the victorian society where women are covered from neck to toe, and stay at home to have as many children as possible, are not allowed to say no to their husbands if they don’t feel like sex due to illness or just lack of interest, and aren’t allowed to leave the house without male escorts. Also they aren’t even allowed to vote!

Come on guys…what would YOUR ideal woman be. I am very curious b/c I want to understand both of you better. and also how would you like society to be in your perfect world in regard to rape laws or whatever laws you seem to have problems with!

Hey now…wait a second…this post is pretty sexist don’t you think? I mean, I have been here voicing my thoughts against feminism too…and I AM A WOMAN…so why target the men? Are they not entitled to have an opinion simply because they are not women?? Or is it that you just assume that ALL women agree with the feminist movement??

 

[Carolinagirl411]

stop being so offended didn’t do it on purpose

I have been in conversation with them during this entire post. I don’t seem to be getting anywhere with them so I want them to spell out for me their plan to fix the problem of feminism so I might understand their position better.

I apologize for leaving out any women on here who also agree with the men in this issue. I just noticed those two b/c I’ve been chatting with them. So I would also be very interested in learning of a female solution to the problem of feminism if you believe it is a problem.

We keep arguing back and forth and I want a solution or what you think is a solution!

my bad

 

[neat62]

Ok Leftdestroyer and Seeking Catholic

You guys seem to be the main male voices in this discussion arguing against the women and how they aren’t considering the damages done by feminism.

If you don’t mind…Outline how you would like women to be.

I say a woman should hold a job, you guys argue with that but you also argue against a woman mooching money off of a man…so what is the deal?

Are there any positive effects of feminism for women/men? Or do you prefer the victorian society where women are covered from neck to toe, and stay at home to have as many children as possible, are not allowed to say no to their husbands if they don’t feel like sex due to illness or just lack of interest, and aren’t allowed to leave the house without male escorts. Also they aren’t even allowed to vote!

Come on guys…what would YOUR ideal woman be. I am very curious b/c I want to understand both of you better. and also how would you like society to be in your perfect world in regard to rape laws or whatever laws you seem to have problems with!

Oh and for the record…this WOMAN…would give anything to go back to the Victorian days or even better, the Pioneer days…when men and women each knew their places…when men and women worked BESIDE one another in the fields…when the mother happily gave birth to as many children as she was blessed with…and when they were God fearing, Bible reading, hard working, faithful, fully loving, Sunday observing, selfishlessly giving, courageously ambitious, and the love of their FAMILY came second only to their love of God!

 

[juliamajor]

There’s no excuse for false rape accusations or not protecting the rights of the accused in rape cases. If you think there is, then you’re the one with the problem.

Always nice to argue against a straw man. Unfortunately it’s just a little intellectually dishonest.

I accept zero blame for that. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my attitude. And I absolutely refuse to kowtow to the typical female emotional-manipulative tactics you are attempting to use here.

You have selective outrage. What about men whose lives are ruined by false accusations? Do they count? Where’s your outrage towards all these women who, apparently, are making false claims of rape.

Yeah well I could say the same thing about being falsely accused of a crime. Women don’t have a monopoly on suffering and claims of compassion. Men are human too and deserving of just as considerations as such. I have nothing but contempt for “womenfirsters”.

Apparently you either don’t understand or refuse to understand-I said I know that there are people ot there who were wrongly convicted-Did I SAY IT WAS RIGHT- NO! Do men suffer- OF COURSE- Women Firsters- Ridiculous- contempt- nice thing for a “christian”. Selective outrage- you have no idea how wrong you are… Apparently looking in the mirror to see who is selectively compassionate has never occurred to you.And your misogyn is so intense that it dulls any sense of pity for folks who don’t resemble you.

 

[neat62]

stop being so offended didn’t do it on purpose

I have been in conversation with them during this entire post. I don’t seem to be getting anywhere with them so I want them to spell out for me their plan to fix the problem of feminism so I might understand their position better.

I apologize for leaving out any women on here who also agree with the men in this issue. I just noticed those two b/c I’ve been chatting with them. So I would also be very interested in learning of a female solution to the problem of feminism if you believe it is a problem.

We keep arguing back and forth and I want a solution or what you think is a solution!

my bad

No worries…just thought I would point out the irony of it.

As for a solution…what’s wrong with simply letting women be women and men be men? I mean, what was wrong with a mother staying at home to raise her family? She was given that role because females are naturally more nurturing…why must women think they have to work out of the home to compete with their husbands?

You know…basically…the solution is pretty simple…we should follow the example of the Holy Family…period.

 

[Carolinagirl411]

Lol that sounds all well and good but the reason why therapy started and was needed was due to all the repressed issues women had that showed themselves in physical nervous conditions called conversion disorder previously called conversion hysteria.

I love having a job and I love have the right to vote and I love being able to leave my house without worrying about some man being near me at all times to guard me. They thought women were weak willed and needed to be guarded, lest they might sin.

lol that is a bunch of BS

All humans are weak to a degree. Some have a weakness with food, some with pride, some with lust. just depends

 

[Calliso]

Sorry…but again this is a bogus argument. I am a woman, one who was raped…and first off, its not the main cause of abortion…as it constitutes less than 1% of all abortions.

Secondly, many, many times, women yell “rape” when in fact, it was NOT. I am not saying that rape doesn’t happen, cause as you can see, I was a “victim” of it…but I DID report it because it was, simply the RIGHT thing to do…and NO ONE was going to intimidate me into doing otherwise.

If they “suffer” in silence its not because society hasn’t reached out to them…there are countless programs and social services to help those who have been victims…if they keep silent, its more than likely because they feel some sort of “guilt” for the rape…which of course, when someone is truly raped, they should not feel any such thing.

Finally, and the ulitimate point being…is that when one wrong occurs…it doesn’t constitute a remedy by committing another wrong!

That;s great that you had the courage to report it really is. However you have to understand why many people donlt. The thought of having to go into court and face the man or woman that raped them is very frightening for many people. Not to mention I imagine humilating in some ways. I mean there is going to be a defence you know? which is going to try to discredit their experience in everyway they can.

As for guilt people feel a whole slew of emotions after rape. And guilt is just one of them. One reason a person might feel guilt for instance is because they might be wondering if something they did lead to the rape. Like oh was it because I wore that somewhat revealing? Was it because I went to that one place? So on and so forth.