Feminisms effect on women

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How do we know that you and Swan aren’t “posers”? 🤷
I suppose you don’t. If you wish to assume that I am a man and a Catholic wingnut, then do so. But I would assume that that my posts would appear quite strange from that prospective. Most people cannot keep up a facade for long. They betray themselves in language and such sooner or later. One here has for sure in claiming that Eve is the evil whereas Adam was simply duped by her.
 
Sure…because you can’t accept that someone, a female, just might have a different thought process then you…this is typical of a liberal response and frankly is quite childish…if you want to SEE who I am go to my blog and read my profile there.

And its NOT bigotted…to believe that men and women are simply NOT equal.
I accept many women who don’t agree with me, but your post went so far beyond the bounds that you are either a male or you hate your sex so thoroughly that you cannot speak honestly about it at all. There is nothing liberal about knowing that Eve was no more at fault in the fall that Adam. That is the teaching of the Church. To claim that women are not equal to men is to be bigoted in the same way that whites were against blacks. It’s simply unacceptable and misogynistic. You would fit in quite well in that compound in Texas with those other brainwashed folks. Such self-loathing is unfortunate and you have my deepest sympathy. I would suggest therapy.
 
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Most people cannot keep up a facade for long. They betray themselves in language and such sooner or later. One here has for sure in claiming that Eve is the evil whereas Adam was simply duped by her.
Well, wackjob, you will be waiting a L O N G time for me to crack. And your false and without reason, accusations are a joke. And I never said that Eve was evil. (Although, EVe and EVil, ahh, nevermind) I explained why, according to the Bible, it was Eve who interacted and was in fact, duped by the devil. Distort it all you want, but it explains why God wanted the setup the way it is.
 
I suppose you don’t. If you wish to assume that I am a man and a Catholic wingnut, then do so. But I would assume that that my posts would appear quite strange from that prospective. Most people cannot keep up a facade for long. They betray themselves in language and such sooner or later. One here has for sure in claiming that Eve is the evil whereas Adam was simply duped by her.
I see you haven’t gone to my blog to check out my profile yet…huh?

Again, simply because I don’t agree with the feminist movement…I am labeled a man…yea…this is pretty typical of the “liberal compassion and tolerance” for all…except of course, those who disagree with them! :rolleyes:
 
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It’s simply unacceptable and misogynistic.
LOLOL Yeah, that’s the first time that has EVER been said to us! LOLOL You Liberals are really beginning to bore me. LOL Freethinkers, 😃 😃 😃 You guy’s have nothing new. And nothing left. All too easy.
 
I accept many women who don’t agree with me, but your post went so far beyond the bounds that you are either a male or you hate your sex so thoroughly that you cannot speak honestly about it at all. There is nothing liberal about knowing that Eve was no more at fault in the fall that Adam. That is the teaching of the Church. To claim that women are not equal to men is to be bigoted in the same way that whites were against blacks. It’s simply unacceptable and misogynistic. You would fit in quite well in that compound in Texas with those other brainwashed folks. Such self-loathing is unfortunate and you have my deepest sympathy. I would suggest therapy.
Apparently you haven’t read my posts…or you would be able comprehend what I stated.

But instead you employ selective reading and then make false accusations and assumptions…again, demonstrating your “liberal compassion and tolerance” for all…

Take a look folks…this is what I meant when I said that the feminists seek superiority NOT equality…the above clearly demonstrates an absolute elitist attitude.
 
SpiritMeadow;3634228]

Well, wackjob, you will be waiting a L O N G time for me to crack. And your false and without reason, accusations are a joke. And I never said that Eve was evil. (Although, EVe and EVil, ahh, nevermind) I explained why, according to the Bible, it was Eve who interacted and was in fact, duped by the devil. Distort it all you want, but it explains why God wanted the setup the way it is.
You know, I just apologized to you in another thread because you accused me of getting personally offensive when I said you were funny. Now, not three minutes later, I find you calling someone a “wackjob”. 😦
 
I suppose you don’t. If you wish to assume that I am a man and a Catholic wingnut, then do so. But I would assume that that my posts would appear quite strange from that prospective. Most people cannot keep up a facade for long. They betray themselves in language and such sooner or later. One here has for sure in claiming that Eve is the evil whereas Adam was simply duped by her.
I don’t assume anything about you. I figure everyone is good unless they prove otherwise. I don’t know you. All I know is that you seem to love to argue endlessly and you do it in an uncharitable way. It doesn’t appear that your goal is to win people to your way of thinking, otherwise you would be a little more patient and kind. Why are you here? :confused:
 
How do we know that you and Swan aren’t “posers”? 🤷
For my part, I’m the pariah here - why would I lie about my beliefs seeing as how they are so unpopular here? :confused: As to why I’m here at all, I like to support those I agree with, who are usually in the minority, and to offer a different perspective for those who are genuinely interested in hearing one. This is why I try not to get into long winded debates with folks who hold other points of view - I’m not giving in, I’m such keeping my participation in a what is often a futile excerise to a minimum (though I confess to sometimes getting over-emotional). :eek:
 
I don’t assume anything about you. I figure everyone is good unless they prove otherwise. I don’t know you. All I know is that you seem to love to argue endlessly and you do it in an uncharitable way. It doesn’t appear that your goal is to win people to your way of thinking, otherwise you would be a little more patient and kind. Why are you here? :confused:
You know, I don’t find SpiritMeadow to be any of these things - but that’s no doubt because I agree with her. Instead I find some other folks to be a bit rude and overbearing. True, there are folks I don’t agree with. BUT, there are quite a few posters I don’t agree with that I do not feel are rude and overbearing. So you can’t just chalk it up to my disagreement. You know that old adage about how it’s not so much what you say as how you say it? I think that applies here. Interestingly enough, I’ve seen posts by folks that I radically disagreed with only to find a post by that same person on another thread/topic that I did agree with - in some cases this was such a surprise that I nearly fell out of my chair. My lesson from that is to try to be patient, keep an open mind, and give the benefit of the doubt. But I’m human too and sometimes I’m tired, or depressed (I’m bi-polar so this is a real issue for me), or just out of sorts and it come out - though not purposfully.

Peace. 🙂
 
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You know, I just apologized to you in another thread because you accused me of getting personally offensive when I said you were funny. Now, not three minutes later, I find you calling someone a “wackjob”. 😦
Well yeah, did you expect me to roll over?

I wrote the last comment before I read your last comment on the other thread.
 
Can we all get over this childish nonsense, and at least, get back to tossing ideas around? We may all disagree or whatnot, but at least ideas/thoughts/supporting data was flowing.
 
Can we all get over this childish nonsense, and at least, get back to tossing ideas around? We may all disagree or whatnot, but at least ideas/thoughts/supporting data was flowing.
LOL I leave for one afternoon (went to UNC to see ron paul) and when I get back I’m so confused about what’s going on. Oh well…I’ll post something of substance later when I can get more energy.
 
I played everything. I had no clue that playing house and playing war were considered games for different kids. I also worked and took care of a real house, or did my part, as did my fave bro, who is still a friend.
I loved babies and kitties and still do.
My dream wedding involves wild rosebushes, crocheted lace, and no groom. I don’t want to get married. It sounds horrible. But I do like pretty stuff. Just not all of it. And I get sick of the frilly business after a while.
When I was a Pentecostal and we had a party all the women sat on one end saying the same three things over and over: “My two-year-old is so active.”, “I was going to get my hair touched up.” and “This is good, who made it?” Not bad converation starters, but where I come from, a conversation goes somewhere, you don’t just say the same thing over and over. I’d try to respond conversationally: “They say two is a tough age.” “What do you call this stuff, anyway?” And be met with blank stares before the other women went back to endless repetitions. Well, I’d known women from many walks of life and never seen anything like that.
The men would stand on the other end bragging about fishing. I’d try to get in and they’d physically shut me out of the conversation. They’d close in and turn away from me. I just wanted to talk to folks. Even though I don’t fish. It’s too expensive. Sounds fun, though. It seemed to me the men had all the good times and the women lived in a glazed-over world where they didn’t even know they’d already said they were going to get their roots done.🤷 It’s better than that now. I had some good girlfriends at the old church, but they were sort of the tomboys of the group. There was so much pressure to get married. I thought about it all the time, wondering if I could stand it. It just sounded like a nightmare.
 
There was so much pressure to get married. I thought about it all the time, wondering if I could stand it. It just sounded like a nightmare.
I was never pressured to get married. My mom/aunt/grandmother never really gave me the whole “when you get married, this” and “when you get married, that” routine. I always expected that I would though and looked forward to it till my parents got divorced. I saw the pain my mom went through and it killed me. They started out so wonderful and then bam, 20 years later it was over.

I had trouble learning how to trust again b/c I thought in the back of my head…they always say they love you at first and then it changes. I didn’t want to get hurt. I talked to my mom about never getting married and mom said she wouldn’t care, especially if I became a nun, which was what i was considering

Then I met my fiance, and all the fears went away. It would kill me if he did a 180 and became my dad…but got to be optimistic. I love him too much to not marry him.

We don’t live together…so when we do make that big step that will be interesting.
 
I was never pressured to get married. My mom/aunt/grandmother never really gave me the whole “when you get married, this” and “when you get married, that” routine. I always expected that I would though and looked forward to it till my parents got divorced. I saw the pain my mom went through and it killed me. They started out so wonderful and then bam, 20 years later it was over.
I didn’t get the pressure at home, but from the larger society. Even running around with rebel type friends, if someone was engaged, the automatic reaction was to be happy for her/him, regardless of who the person was about to marry. When I was 18 I got engaged to prove I was old enough to be serious, but the idea of being married was so repulsive to us both we set the date about 30 years away. Of course, we broke up. He pursued me and begged me to come back. I knew better. I hid from him, confronted him, had my friends tell him to go away… and then I met someone I thougth I wanted to marry because I thought being married to him would be like hanging out with him. But neither of us wanted ot be actually married, as in stuck, just two of us, in each other’s faces.:eek: He got scared first that time. I’m so glad one of us put a stop to that relationship! Around and around, trying to decide how to live, whom to end up with, it went on for years.
I got engaged again a few years later to someone who just wouldn’t break up with me. Major weirdness and ugliness, finally he went away. I’m so relieved he’s out of my life. He was a hard person to be in a room with never mind live with. Even staying the night was a strain. I thought I had to marry him because I was 25, and I didn’t want to seem immature or anything, so I thought I’d better hurry up, get married and have four or five kids as fast as I could. I thought he was giving me feedback that he wanted the same thing. He just didn’t know what he wanted, except that whatever it was should revolve around him. He seemed to have a big mental block when I tried to talk about how babies were going to need more attention than he did; he was almost 40 but still thought he should be the center of attention everywhere.:rolleyes:
So when i became a Christian later in my life I decided to just go to a church with a nice culture and make some friends, hang out and see what would be expted of me. Well, everyone was pretty sure I needed a husband. To socialize as I always had wasn’t done. Adults socialized as couples, unless they were widows. I hung out with the widows and old folks and felt out of place. I switched churches and found that all anyone talked about was marriage. I tried hard to psych myself into wanting a husband. I ended up in tears, near hopeless of being happy ever again, as I thought of how I was “supposed to” be married by then. It just sounded horrible. I tried to talk to my friends there about it and they didn’t understand what I was saying, no matter how I explained it. they thought I just wanted to sleep around or something, or that I was antisocial. People seemed exhausted trying to talk to me. But all I wanted to know was, is it OK to be social, and not be married or trying to get married? It was too much to think about I guess. Maybe they’d never thought about it either. Maybe they didn’t really want to be married either.
 
You know, I don’t find SpiritMeadow to be any of these things - but that’s no doubt because I agree with her. Instead I find some other folks to be a bit rude and overbearing. True, there are folks I don’t agree with. BUT, there are quite a few posters I don’t agree with that I do not feel are rude and overbearing. So you can’t just chalk it up to my disagreement. You know that old adage about how it’s not so much what you say as how you say it? I think that applies here. Interestingly enough, I’ve seen posts by folks that I radically disagreed with only to find a post by that same person on another thread/topic that I did agree with - in some cases this was such a surprise that I nearly fell out of my chair. My lesson from that is to try to be patient, keep an open mind, and give the benefit of the doubt. But I’m human too and sometimes I’m tired, or depressed (I’m bi-polar so this is a real issue for me), or just out of sorts and it come out - though not purposfully.

Peace. 🙂
Me, too - peace 🙂
 
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