Few days after same sex marriage ruling, has your parish talked about it

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Last night’s vigil mass, brand new priest (only 7 weeks since his ordination), mentioned it in passing.

This morning’s mass, our pastor spoke about the court’s decision and about sacramental marriage as the topic of his homily. It was inspiring – even to a middle-aged single mom 👍
 
Not a word at Mass this morning. Our Archbishop has a very good statement on Friday. I was kind of hoping that, if our pastor did not want to address the issue personally, he would at least point them to the diocesan website. But, no. 😦
 
Murmurs said:
While many (if not most or all!) Catholics in the US and elsewhere might quite rightly, strongly disagree with the same-sex marriage…
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Polling data shows that a majority of US Catholics support same-sex marriage:
Similarly, despite the church’s continued opposition to same-sex marriage, most U.S. Catholics (57%) favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to legally wed, according to aggregated 2014 Pew Research surveys. And again, younger Catholics are particularly likely to express this view. Three-quarters of Catholic adults under 30 support legal same-sex marriage, compared with 53% of Catholics ages 30 and older (including just 38% of those 65 and older).
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Thorolfr said:
Polling data shows that a majority of US Catholics support same-sex marriage:

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/16/young-u-s-catholics-overwhelmingly-accepting-of-homosexuality/
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I am certain the data is false.most likely manipulated numbers by our liberal media.It may be baptized Catholics who do not practice the faith or even read their Catechism and Bible and know what it teaches…

I have never met a Catholic who thinks sodomy is a normal expression of love.It is a very disordered passion that St Augustine called the "unnatural vice"because it is so addictive.Jesus told St Catherine that it is so repulsive to dishonor the body in such a way that even the demons hate it when humans succumb to the vice.

Most all of the Catholics I have spoken with see homosexual activity as well as abortion gravely sinful.
 
cjforJesus said:
It may be baptized Catholics who do not practice the faith or even read their Catechism and Bible and know what it teaches…
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I thought that once someone is baptized Catholic, they’re always Catholic. I often see people here in CAF say OCAC (Once Catholic Always Catholic). 🤷
 
cjforJesus said:
I am certain the data is false.most likely manipulated numbers by our liberal media.It may be baptized Catholics who do not practice the faith or even read their Catechism and Bible and know what it teaches…

I have never met a Catholic who thinks sodomy is a normal expression of love.It is a very disordered passion that St Augustine called the "unnatural vice"because it is so addictive.Jesus told St Catherine that it is so repulsive to dishonor the body in such a way that even the demons hate it when humans succumb to the vice.

Most all of the Catholics I have spoken with see homosexual activity as well as abortion gravely sinful.
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I’m sure if you Google statistics from other organizations such as Gallup, you will find that the data IS real. The attitudes of humans towards those of different sexual orientation are now based on personal experiences with family members and friends instead of large group definition as it used to be. 👍
 
kozlosap said:
I’m sure if you Google statistics from other organizations such as Gallup, you will find that the data IS real. The attitudes of humans towards those of different sexual orientation are now based on personal experiences with family members and friends instead of large group definition as it used to be. 👍
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I am sorry to disagree but I do not know any practicing Catholic who thinks sodomy is normal psychologically. It is a disordered passion much like pedophilia which is next big hurdle of the gay rights movement.

The acceptance of the disorder is due largely to a GREAT and extensive media campaign.The gay agenda has penetrated all aspects of society from education to media to law and even religion.It was inevitable because many people do not understand it and being weak minded are easily influenced. Studies have been done on how to manipulate public opinion and beliefs and even change them though extensive campaigns and utilizing high profile celebrities that people adore. Also using the intellectual approach use individuals with lots of credentials.

The priests I know say just keep the faith because the gates of hell will not prevail. We cannot succumb to evil actions but always love the sinner.We are all sinners too.
 
cjforJesus said:
I am sorry to disagree but I do not know any practicing Catholic who thinks sodomy is normal psychologically. It is a disordered passion much like pedophilia which is next big hurdle of the gay rights movement.

The acceptance of the disorder is due largely to a GREAT and extensive media campaign.The gay agenda has penetrated all aspects of society from education to media to law and even religion.It was inevitable because most people do not understand it and are weak minded and easily influenced.

The priests I know say just keep the faith because the gates of hell will not prevail. We cannot succumb to evil actions but always love the sinner.We are all sinners too.
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Well if you don’t know of anybody who doesn’t share your belief about a group of people, then you must be right! :rolleyes:
 
Birdpreacher said:
Well if you don’t know of anybody who doesn’t share your belief about a group of people, then you must be right! :rolleyes:
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It is not a group of people but an activity that is condemned.Gay people usually engage in some sort of mutual masturbation which culminates in an orgasm which releases oxytocin.The hormone is the same hormone that is released during breastfeeding that causes milk to be ejected from the mothers milk ducts and bonds her to her child.This is one of the reasons it was called the “unnatural vice” because it is very addictive behavior.It is not just the orgasm but the release of powerful hormones which influence the brain and behavior.
 
cjforJesus said:
It is not a group of people but an activity that is condemned.Gay people usually engage in some sort of mutual masturbation which culminates in an orgasm which releases oxytocin.The hormone is the same hormone that is released during breastfeeding that causes milk to be ejected from the mothers milk ducts and bonds her to her child.This is one of the reasons it was called the “unnatural vice” because it is very addictive behavior.It is not just the orgasm but the release of powerful hormones which influence the brain and behavior.
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Your interpretation of god, may indeed have a problem with gays because they are having sex “the wrong way”. Many people, including many Christians would beg to disagree.

You realazie that all sex is caplable of being an addictive behavior, right? I mean its just not gay sex that produces the hormone.
 
Birdpreacher said:
Your interpretation of god, may indeed have a problem with gays because they are having sex “the wrong way”. Many people, including many Christians would beg to disagree.

You realazie that all sex is caplable of being an addictive behavior, right? I mean its just not gay sex that produces the hormone.
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Of course not,but it is meant to bond a man and woman together.

The bible talks about a man and a woman having their hearts knit together.It is such a beautiful thing.

I stand by the bible and believe that men should not lie with other men.I also believe the Catechism in that sodomy is intrinsically disordered and not according to the natural order.

You are welcome here if you seek the truth in charity and do not disparage Catholic beliefs.You may get banned if you start criticizing the Catechism or Bible because that is not charitable.
 
As just a normal, everyday human being (& a libertarian politically), I don’t much care who-marries-who, as long as they are consenting adults.

BUT…I am also a strong believer in religious liberty, & NO CHURCH (Catholic or otherwise) should be forced (by threat of lawsuits, tax law, etc.) to perform marriages that do not conform to their beliefs.

THAT is what concerns me most about this ruling.
 
kozlosap said:
I’m sure if you Google statistics from other organizations such as Gallup, you will find that the data IS real. The attitudes of humans towards those of different sexual orientation are now based on personal experiences with family members and friends instead of large group definition as it used to be. 👍
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The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it, and error is error even if every everyone believes it.👍

Archbishop Fulton John Sheen
 
It was not in our parish bulletin or mentioned by the priest, but he was a visitor covering for our pastor who is on vacation.

I would not be surprised if next week there was something, but the decision coming out on Friday makes it hard for Sunday deadlines at least as far as print publications and the prayer intentions list.
 
My parish has not mentioned it at all. Not before, during or after the ruling.

We used to have a great pastor who would speak up against secularism but of course he was transferred to another parish and demoted.

I think it is sad that so many good Catholics are on social media defending the Faith boldly and there is silence from the priests at mass. Then everyone wonders how we got to this point and wonders why Catholics are poorly catechized.

It almost seems that with the New Evangelization, my parish just wants people in the pews rather than saying anything that would offend anyone.
 
Your right Polki we are being hung out to dry, lets hope that changes soon.
 
It would be a yes and yes for me. The FSSP parish was no suprise that he talked about it and the true meaning and purpose of marriage. The parochial vicar at the OF parish also talked about marriage for the last couple minutes of his homily. He talked about how even if we are respectful in differences of opinions, that no Catholic can support or condone the ruling. To equate marriage and homosexual unions is to deny how marriage is a reflection of Christ’s love for the world. As he said, any Catholic that says they are equal has betrayed Christ’s sacrifice on the cross.
 
Unfortunately, our pastor did not talk about the issue. Each week though I like to listen to Fr Larry Richards homilies which are listed online and he did a very nice job with it and tying it in with this weeks readings. Bottom line is do not be afraid, have faith, and faith is enough. If we don’t believe that faith is enough, then we are not following Jesus.

You can hear his homily from yesterday here: thereasonforourhope.org/homilies/June282015-13thSundayinOrdinaryTime-CycleB/

God bless,

John
 
newcalling said:
Nothing at the morning mass. I doubt that anything will be said about it at the eleven a.m. mass because it is the same priest. I will be attending a five p.m. mass with a friend at another parish, so I will see if they say anything. I don’t have a problem with the ruling, and I am not interested in the semantics of what they call it. Some churches approve of it, some other religions do, and so do most atheists and agnostics. In a perfect world we would all be Catholic and then we could make civil rules based upon our beliefs. As it is, I don’t plan on having a same sex marriage, nor if I become a priest will I ever sanctify a marriage contrary to church teaching. As to children, homosexuality is already seen as normal and in many states they could adopt kids without being married. Adoption is a separate issue. Fwiw, my parents were sinners in a big way and the Holy Spirit still lead me right. Never underestimate the Holy Spirit regardless of the traditions and sins of secular society.
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